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HeyGuys

 

I want to buy a new pc but I seriously cant decide what cpu I should get, the rest is fine. I want to play/stream games like csgo, witcher 3 and rb6, I also want to get into game design and 3D stuff.

Should I get now the 8086K or the 1920x ? or should I wait for the 2800x ? I heard it should have 10 core.

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Neither. Get the 8700k. Or if you're not in a hurry, Intel should be releasing new 9th gen stuff by the end of the year.

2 minutes ago, nevergiveup said:

or should I wait for the 2800x ? I heard it should have 10 core.

I don't think it will be; however, the 3700x or 3800x or whatever might be. However, that won't be coming until around February.

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10 minutes ago, nevergiveup said:

 

Budget/Country?

 

Probably get the 1920X if the money isn't a big deal, more cores is more fun.

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3 minutes ago, nevergiveup said:

Austria

 

arround 500€

Meant the budget for the whole PC.

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3 minutes ago, nevergiveup said:

ohhh uhm 1600€ except that i dont need a gpu, i have a 980 ti

Well there's a german part picker list anyways. Might be able to get a 16 core CPU in there if you buy the case and hard drive/ssd later

 

Forget the noctua cooler in the list and buy a Silver Arrow TR4, it's actually available in germany saw it on ebay and other sites, I still have to wait for October to buy one...


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CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler  (€79.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  (€332.77 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€135.89 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€144.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
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Total: €1364.48
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16 minutes ago, nevergiveup said:

I need a new case, my old one doesnt support more then 1 fan and I dont have a SSD and I was thinking about to buy a 1 TB ssd and a AiO 280 mm.

I would stick to the air cooler so there's never a risk of issues with your $1000+ system

 

Then just settle for the lowly 12 core I suppose..or find an extra 100EUR when buying to get the 1950X

 

You probably don't need a 1TB SSD, could also use acceleration software like storeMI or something to speed up the 2TB hard drive

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49 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Well there's a german part picker list anyways. Might be able to get a 16 core CPU in there if you buy the case and hard drive/ssd later

 

Forget the noctua cooler in the list and buy a Silver Arrow TR4, it's actually available in germany saw it on ebay and other sites, I still have to wait for October to buy one...


Probably want to make sure you have fast NVME, might be useful.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6vQzHh
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6vQzHh/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5GHz 12-Core Processor  (€398.95 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler  (€79.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard  (€332.77 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€135.89 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€144.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€58.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€97.68 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€115.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1364.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-17 01:15 CEST+0200
 

 

I'm really not convinced on TR. Gaming performance is gonna be worse, streaming performance wouldn't be that much better, and a lot of CAD actually prefers single threaded performance.

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8 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

I'm really not convinced on TR. Gaming performance is gonna be worse, streaming performance wouldn't be that much better, and a lot of CAD actually prefers single threaded performance.

Gaming performance will be the same as mainstream ryzen basically, streaming would be never dropping frames

 

Better to have more cores than to not have cores when it comes to workstation stuff IMO

 

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1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

Gaming performance will be the same as mainstream ryzen basically, streaming would be never dropping frames

 

IIRC it might be a bit lower b/c of extra latency

 

8700k doesn't quite do as well but if you set it to 10 mbps it does pretty ok and doesn't drop that many frames. It's actually not far behind a 2700x while beating the 2700x by a lot in gaming performance. Not sure about the 1920x tho

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3287-amd-r7-2700-and-2700x-review-game-streaming-cpu-benchmarks-memory/page-2

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9 hours ago, nevergiveup said:

HeyGuys

 

I want to buy a new pc but I seriously cant decide what cpu I should get, the rest is fine. I want to play/stream games like csgo, witcher 3 and rb6, I also want to get into game design and 3D stuff.

Should I get now the 8086K or the 1920x ? or should I wait for the 2800x ? I heard it should have 10 core.

I'd suggest u to get an 8700k.

Or even an 8700 (non k) should be fine.  

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I think the 1950x would be overkill af and I think the big problem is im not sure how big my project will be when i try to get into game design and that stuff, I want to use my new cpu for many years then too. 

 

the TR has more core, is a bit cheaper, has a lower GHz base/boost, is more like an allrounder 

8700K/8086k has only 6 core, expensiver, better GHz base/boost, is more for gaming

 

If I would play only games my choice would be the 8086k but since I want try to learn game design im not that sure... 

 

A friend of me has the 8086K and was streaming csgo last night he had freaking 400-800 FPS, can the TR do that too or even better? I cant find any benchmarks for csgo sadly :( since cs is my maingame it would be good to have as many fps as possible.

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8 minutes ago, nevergiveup said:

I think the 1950x would be overkill af and I think the big problem is im not sure how big my project will be when i try to get into game design and that stuff, I want to use my new cpu for many years then too. 

 

the TR has more core, is a bit cheaper, has a lower GHz base/boost, is more like an allrounder 

8700K/8086k has only 6 core, expensiver, better GHz base/boost, is more for gaming

 

If I would play only games my choice would be the 8086k but since I want try to learn game design im not that sure... 

 

A friend of me has the 8086K and was streaming csgo last night he had freaking 400-800 FPS, can the TR do that too or even better? I cant find any benchmarks for csgo sadly :( since cs is my maingame it would be good to have as many fps as possible.

No point in spending extra $100 fr an 8086k when u can get a similar performance with an 8700k.

8700k easily OC to 5ghz ND performs similar to 8086k.

 

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