Ram upgrade suggestions

[ShaunH]

As the title suggests - I am wanting to upgrade my ram. I have read that ryzen benefits greatly from fast ram - so I am in need of an upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NCbV29
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NCbV29/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3GHz 8-Core Processor  (£194.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£150.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£78.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£85.26 @ SmartTeck.co.uk) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card  (£449.99 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.98 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Optical Drive: Samsung - SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£87.04 @ PC World Business) 
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset  (£69.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1293.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The ram I have at the moment: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-black-pc4-19200-(2400)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-14-16-16-31-xm

I was recommended this ram the last time I was on here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16 when I was asking for a gpu recommendation - its been awhile since then and have now got some spare money. So would this ram be compatible with my board and if so - is there any other cheaper alternatives that I should look at? I would check the QVL but for some reason it comes up with an error saying it cannot be reached.

 

Thanks in advance.

[nick name]

1 hour ago, ShaunH said:

As the title suggests - I am wanting to upgrade my ram. I have read that ryzen benefits greatly from fast ram - so I am in need of an upgrade.

 

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The ram I have at the moment: https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-(2x8gb)-corsair-ddr4-vengeance-lpx-black-pc4-19200-(2400)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-14-16-16-31-xm

I was recommended this ram the last time I was on here: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16 when I was asking for a gpu recommendation - its been awhile since then and have now got some spare money. So would this ram be compatible with my board and if so - is there any other cheaper alternatives that I should look at? I would check the QVL but for some reason it comes up with an error saying it cannot be reached.

 

Thanks in advance.

How much money are you looking to spend?

 

Ideally, you want to buy the fastest/lowest timing Samsung b-die kit you can find. You won't be guaranteed to run at its advertised speed if you buy a kit rated beyond 3600MHz, but it will usually mean you're getting the better binned b-die kits. 

[ShaunH]

58 minutes ago, nick name said:

How much money are you looking to spend?

 

Ideally, you want to buy the fastest/lowest timing Samsung b-die kit you can find. You won't be guaranteed to run at its advertised speed if you buy a kit rated beyond 3600MHz, but it will usually mean you're getting the better binned b-die kits. 

At most - 250 but pref 200 or lower. GBP.

[nick name]

1 hour ago, ShaunH said:

At most - 250 but pref 200 or lower. GBP.

Awww man that gives you tons of options for 2x8GB kits at 3200MHz. Heck you could get a Corsair Dominator Platinum kit for 205 GBP. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XxcMnQ/corsair-memory-cmd16gx4m2b3200c16.

 

Edit:

Ok I just the pcpartpicker page has the CAS latency wrong. That kit is probably a Hynix kit so it's overpriced in that regard.

[nick name]

This kit is potentially a Samsung b-die kit as reported by past purchasers. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8Tm323/team-t-force-dark-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tdprd416g3200hc16adc01

[ShaunH]

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

This kit is potentially a Samsung b-die kit as reported by past purchasers. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8Tm323/team-t-force-dark-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tdprd416g3200hc16adc01

Must admit - I have no idea what the hynix and samsung b-dies are. I just need some ram that will be compatible with my mobo. I recall buying some with the mobo and it didnt work with both plugged in. It was this kit here : https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015FY8G6U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

If possible - can you add the ram you recommend to the partpicker list i added above? Just so I can save the link and not pick the wrong one in the list x)

[nick name]

1 hour ago, ShaunH said:

Must admit - I have no idea what the hynix and samsung b-dies are. I just need some ram that will be compatible with my mobo. I recall buying some with the mobo and it didnt work with both plugged in. It was this kit here : https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015FY8G6U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

If possible - can you add the ram you recommend to the partpicker list i added above? Just so I can save the link and not pick the wrong one in the list x)

Done. I selected the one that was black and grey. There is a black and red kit also. 

 

Also, you can probably find a Windows 10 Pro license key on eBay. I actually purchased two of them that way. They were $10 each.  Used that savings and purchase the Asus Strix X470 board instead of the X370. 

[ShaunH]

11 minutes ago, nick name said:

Done. I selected the one that was black and grey. There is a black and red kit also. 

 

Also, you can probably find a Windows 10 Pro license key on eBay. I actually purchased two of them that way. They were $10 each.  Used that savings and purchase the Asus Strix X470 board instead of the X370. 

Need you to send the partpicker link x) also - I already have windows home on a usb with a cd key so no need for that. I already have the system btw - just that I am wanting to upgrade my ram as I had to cut back and save money on the ram due to budget. Plus - X470 wasnt out when I got the 370 x)

 

Edit: can you tell me if you can access the QVL for the x370? link is here - https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X370-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_QVL/

[nick name]

4 minutes ago, ShaunH said:

Need you to send the partpicker link x) also - I already have windows home on a usb with a cd key so no need for that. I already have the system btw - just that I am wanting to upgrade my ram as I had to cut back and save money on the ram due to budget. Plus - X470 wasnt out when I got the 370 x)

 

Edit: can you tell me if you can access the QVL for the x370? link is here - https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X370-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_QVL/

Ahhh gotcha. I will check the QVL but I can tell you that it won't matter if it isn't on there. It's one of the reasons people prefer Samsung b-die because it works best with Ryzen systems. 

 

And I edited that list in your OP. Did it save? Lemme check.

[nick name]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NbcNYT

[ShaunH]

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

Ahhh gotcha. I will check the QVL but I can tell you that it won't matter if it isn't on there. It's one of the reasons people prefer Samsung b-die because it works best with Ryzen systems. 

 

And I edited that list in your OP. Did it save? Lemme check.

Just curious if you can access it - I keep getting cannot reach link etc. https://gyazo.com/298e3055b1618b81e00d2211f3c3981a

Also - the link on partpicker will change once you add to it - need to send a new one x)

Edit:Thanks for the link!

[nick name]

1 minute ago, ShaunH said:

Just curious if you can access it - I keep getting cannot reach link etc. https://gyazo.com/298e3055b1618b81e00d2211f3c3981a

Also - the link on partpicker will change once you add to it - need to send a new one x)

Edit:Thanks for the link!

They make that kit with red instead of grey. 

[ShaunH]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

They make that kit with red instead of grey. 

Will it work at the advertised speed? I recall getting a ram which I linked above - that only one stick would work at a time - and half would go into hardware reserve. Might've been because there wasnt much support for it at the time, but ended up refunding it and getting the 2400mhz I have at the moment. I'm also guessing that it's Samsung B-Die - Also, will probably use whichever - due to my build is blue atm.

[nick name]

5 minutes ago, ShaunH said:

Will it work at the advertised speed? I recall getting a ram which I linked above - that only one stick would work at a time - and half would go into hardware reserve. Might've been because there wasnt much support for it at the time, but ended up refunding it and getting the 2400mhz I have at the moment.

I am 99% positive it will work at 3200MHz. The kit itself isn't on the QVL, but there are other G.SKILL Samsung b-die kits on the list. I imagine the worst thing that will happen is you can't get 3200MHz running and might have to settle for 3000MHz. But that kit is £50 less than a G.SKILL Samsung b-die kit. 

[ShaunH]

5 minutes ago, nick name said:

I am 99% positive it will work at 3200MHz. The kit itself isn't on the QVL, but there are other G.SKILL Samsung b-die kits on the list. I imagine the worst thing that will happen is you can't get 3200MHz running and might have to settle for 3000MHz. But that kit is £50 less than a G.SKILL Samsung b-die kit. 

Ah thats great then. I shall order it tomorrow then. Thanks for all the help. If it doesnt end up working for some reason - I can just refund it and use the 2400 till I find a replacement. Thanks for the help ^^ Also great its £50 less x)

[nick name]

7 minutes ago, ShaunH said:

Ah thats great then. I shall order it tomorrow then. Thanks for all the help. If it doesnt end up working for some reason - I can just refund it and use the 2400 till I find a replacement. Thanks for the help ^^ Also great its £50 less x)

I am pretty confident you will be able to run that kit by simply selecting the DOCP profile in BIOS, but if you have any problems increase the DRAM voltage a little and change the SOC voltage to 1.1V (that is what AMD recommends for "overclocked" RAM).

[ShaunH]

3 minutes ago, nick name said:

I am pretty confident you will be able to run that kit by simply selecting the DOCP profile in BIOS, but if you have any problems increase the DRAM voltage a little and change the SOC voltage to 1.1V (that is what AMD recommends for "overclocked" RAM).

Alright - I have only OC'd my cpu - and thats very minor - just put in 37 in the multiplier and volts to 1.3 - which I put to 1.325 and LLC lvl 3. So no idea how to dram voltages but guess I shall find out. Also - is this ram on amazon or scan? Just find it easier to order from those sites.

[nick name]

21 minutes ago, ShaunH said:

Alright - I have only OC'd my cpu - and thats very minor - just put in 37 in the multiplier and volts to 1.3 - which I put to 1.325 and LLC lvl 3. So no idea how to dram voltages but guess I shall find out. Also - is this ram on amazon or scan? Just find it easier to order from those sites.

The red kit is available on Amazon the grey kit is on:

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-dark-pro-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-25600c16-3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

[ShaunH]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

The red kit is available on Amazon the grey kit is on:

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-dark-pro-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-25600c16-3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-grey-tdpgd416g3-my-076-tg.html

Can you get the red kit link for me? Sorry for the hassle x) Just a bit busy at the moment.

[nick name]

49 minutes ago, ShaunH said:

Can you get the red kit link for me? Sorry for the hassle x) Just a bit busy at the moment.

So you like the red then eh?

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01A9KO7K4/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

After all this you owe me a pint.

[ShaunH]

4 minutes ago, nick name said:

So you like the red then eh?

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01A9KO7K4/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

After all this you owe me a pint.

I can always change the LEDs to red if needed x) Just easier for me to order on amazon.

 

Thanks for the link x) 

 

Haha, you've earned it. Thanks for all the help - shall order this tomorrow!