Undervolting +cpu state maximum !? HELP

[elfalloo]

Hello everyone, so i got an dell inspiron with the gtx1050ti version and i7 7700hq and i lowered cpu state to 80% and undervolted my cpu with -120mv so idk if is it safe to do them both now max temps are 73-74 for cpu or maybe should i put the cpu state to 100% and undervolt to -140 maybe it will work and wont crash with 100% ?? Thanks

[elfalloo]

73-74 are on heavy games like watch dogs2 my question is simple is it safe to do both undervolting and lowering cpu state at the same time

[Jurrunio]

why touch the CPU-state in the first place? Should have left that alone.

[Froody129]

It's never unsafe to send less voltage. It might crash but it won't die. CPU state doesn't do much. Maybe disable turbo and undervolt as much as you can 

[elfalloo]

But with cpu state at 100% and 80% i get free 5temp from 79-80 to 74 so idk, my cpu crash up to -130mv so i want just to know if it safe to do that 

[elfalloo]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

why touch the CPU-state in the first place? Should have left that alone.

I saw it on a forum to get cpu much cooler 

[elfalloo]

1 hour ago, Froody129 said:

It's never unsafe to send less voltage. It might crash but it won't die. CPU state doesn't do much. Maybe disable turbo and undervolt as much as you can 

It affect gaming cpu state ? 

[Jurrunio]

4 hours ago, elfalloo said:

I saw it on a forum to get cpu much cooler 

because the CPU does less work, that's why it will run cooler. The point of undervolting is reducing heat output and power draw without slowing it down.

[elfalloo]

9 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

because the CPU does less work, that's why it will run cooler. The point of undervolting is reducing heat output and power draw without slowing it down.

yep ok so what should i do? put the cpu state back to 100%? i will get more like 6-7 degrees on cpu temp ,my question is simple is it doing undervolting+lowering cpu state safe that all

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, elfalloo said:

yep ok so what should i do? put the cpu state back to 100%? i will get more like 6-7 degrees on cpu temp ,my question is simple is it doing undervolting+lowering cpu state safe that all

put CPU-state back to 100%, or else you're losing performance. Try undervolt more, though you might crash at the current settings.

 

Pascal GPUs can undervolt as well, will give a tiny improvement in CPU temps since they share the same cooling system.

[elfalloo]

11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

put CPU-state back to 100%, or else you're losing performance. Try undervolt more, though you might crash at the current settings.

 

Pascal GPUs can undervolt as well, will give a tiny improvement in CPU temps since they share the same cooling system.

undervolt more like -140? in the first time with 80 c-state at -140 it crashed ,-130 crashed one time after 8hof watch dogs 2 so ive put 120,and btw THX for help

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, elfalloo said:

undervolt more like -140? in the first time with 80 c-state at -140 it crashed ,-130 crashed one time after 8hof watch dogs 2 so ive put 120,and btw THX for help

with CPU-state back to 100%, it should undervolt worse, needing a higher voltage offset to work. That's what I meant.

[elfalloo]

9 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

with CPU-state back to 100%, it should undervolt worse, needing a higher voltage offset to work. That's what I meant.

i've put it to 100% right and it didnt crash for -150 -140 which crashed on 80% so idk... -155 crashed i think i will test -145 a little bit 

[elfalloo]

14 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

with CPU-state back to 100%, it should undervolt worse, needing a higher voltage offset to work. That's what I meant.

So now with 100% at cpu state -125 on undervolt and cooler pad i get to max 91 degree on watch dogs 2 and 85 on farcry 4 by pytting c state at 99% i get max temp is 85 for watch and 79 for farcry so isnt a little bit too high ?  Btw i bought my pc 2weeks ago.. 

[Jurrunio]

oh dear, not a good laptop this thing. what model is this?

[elfalloo]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

oh dear, not a good laptop this thing. what model is this?

Dell inspiron 7567 i7 7700hq gtx 1050ti

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, elfalloo said:

Dell inspiron 7567 i7 7700hq gtx 1050ti

thin laptops just dont work very well with hot CPUs like this it seems.

 

Then other than going for RMA 'because it runs hot', your only option is to go back to dropping CPU-states and performance again. Sad.

[elfalloo]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

thin laptops just dont work very well with hot CPUs like this it seems.

 

Then other than going for RMA 'because it runs hot', your only option is to go back to dropping CPU-states and performance again. Sad.

But 80C isnt safe ? 

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, elfalloo said:

But 80C isnt safe ? 

it's safe, but on a laptop that means loud fans and potentially hot surfaces to touch.

[elfalloo]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

it's safe, but on a laptop that means loud fans and potentially hot surfaces to touch.

So now ive putted it to 85% not 80% and i downloaded msi after burner ( dont take me for a retard but i think msi afterburner got me a free 3-4 degrees for real)  on watch dogs 2 i didnt lost anything on performance and max temp is 73 avg 69 but the question is it sage to put the cstate at 85% + undervolt it ? (thx btw for help)  i appreciacte

[Jurrunio]

4 hours ago, elfalloo said:

sage

safe? Yes

 

You're probably bottlenecked by the GPU in WD2 anyway

[elfalloo]

13 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

safe? Yes

 

You're probably bottlenecked by the GPU in WD2 anyway

bottelneck? i'm not running it at ultra + this game is optimized by a 6 years old guy

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, elfalloo said:

this game is optimized by a 6 years old guy

ya, that rasies both CPU and GPU usage