PC Deadlocking

[Kalby]

Hi, I recently made a pc with used and new parts. It is mainly for editing and light gaming. Soon after the completion of the build, it started deadlocking randomly. Whenever I play a game or when my files are exporting.

These are the parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b74TpG 

The CPU, Motherboard and the cooler are used I bought them for $170. I thought it was because of the heat, so I opened the side panel and also blew a fan towards it but it still deadlocks. I just bought an 8350 to test whether its a CPU problem. Kindly help me to solve this. It's so frustrating cause I have been trying for years to make money and make this PC☹️☹️☹️.

[Radium_Angel]

12 minutes ago, Alby Kadavilan said:

Hi, I recently made a pc with used and new parts. It is mainly for editing and light gaming. Soon after the completion of the build, it started deadlocking randomly. Whenever I play a game or when my files are exporting.

These are the parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b74TpG 

The CPU, Motherboard and the cooler are used I bought them for $170. I thought it was because of the heat, so I opened the side panel and also blew a fan towards it but it still deadlocks. I just bought an 8350 to test whether its a CPU problem. Kindly help me to solve this. It's so frustrating cause I have been trying for years to make money and make this PC☹️☹️☹️.

When you say deadlocking, or mean a hard lock where the keyboard and mouse freezes and the only solution is to power it off?

[Kalby]

4 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

When you say deadlocking, or mean a hard lock where the keyboard and mouse freezes and the only solution is to power it off?

Yea, hard lock like you said the only way is to power off manually

[Radium_Angel]

Just now, Alby Kadavilan said:

Yea, hard lock like you said the only way is to power off manually

Hard locking is almost always a hardware issue.

But with Win10 and it's terrible patches, that is no longer true.

 

A few things to test:

Start with Memtestx86+, this will eliminate RAM as a culprit, or, point to it as the cause.

Try a CPU stresstest program. This will pinpoint a bad CPU.

Pick up (they are cheap) or rent a power meter (I use one called Kill-A-Watt, very accurate), this will test if your power supply is bad.

Run a liveCD or liveUSB of a linux distro. If it behaves, then it's Windows. If it locks up or crashes as well, then it's the PC.

 

I think your RAM sped might be too high for the board, that will certainly cause issues. RAM can only downclock but so much. What is the board rated for?

[Kalby]

4 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Hard locking is almost always a hardware issue.

But with Win10 and it's terrible patches, that is no longer true.

 

A few things to test:

Start with Memtestx86+, this will eliminate RAM as a culprit, or, point to it as the cause.

Try a CPU stresstest program. This will pinpoint a bad CPU.

Pick up (they are cheap) or rent a power meter (I use one called Kill-A-Watt, very accurate), this will test if your power supply is bad.

Run a liveCD or liveUSB of a linux distro. If it behaves, then it's Windows. If it locks up or crashes as well, then it's the PC.

 

I think your RAM sped might be too high for the board, that will certainly cause issues. RAM can only downclock but so much. What is the board rated for?

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The Motherboard can handle up to DDR3-2000 ram and it is one of the few motherboards that support the FX9590. I'll try all those tests asap.

[Kalby]

UPDATE:  I ran Memtest, no errors at all. I moved to CPU stress test with Prime 95. I started it (Small FFT), within 10 secs the screen went "No signal" but the CPU still runs (Fan in the case and of the heat spreader). Is it because of the Graphics card? 

I use EVGA GTX960 SSC used. Which the seller told me he had overclocked just a little. Is it because the way I connect the GPU to the PSU? I connected GPU to the PSU via the PCI-E rather than the VGA connector.

Also, I couldn't manually turn it off.

 

New Update: I tried running prime 95 again (Small FFT) then it hard locked in less than a min. 

[Radium_Angel]

19 hours ago, Alby Kadavilan said:

UPDATE:  I ran Memtest, no errors at all. I moved to CPU stress test with Prime 95. I started it (Small FFT), within 10 secs the screen went "No signal" but the CPU still runs (Fan in the case and of the heat spreader). Is it because of the Graphics card? 

I use EVGA GTX960 SSC used. Which the seller told me he had overclocked just a little. Is it because the way I connect the GPU to the PSU? I connected GPU to the PSU via the PCI-E rather than the VGA connector.

Also, I couldn't manually turn it off.

 

New Update: I tried running prime 95 again (Small FFT) then it hard locked in less than a min. 

Post some pics of your rig, specifically the power connections to the video card, the cooling fan, the connections of the power supply to the motherboard, please

[Kalby]

17 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Post some pics of your rig, specifically the power connections to the video card, the cooling fan, the connections of the power supply to the motherboard, please

The pictures are more than 20mb so here is a drive link to the pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ka-tY5g90msSTYibD5CtH4qv-P2GRqN2

[Radium_Angel]

1 hour ago, Alby Kadavilan said:

The pictures are more than 20mb so here is a drive link to the pictures: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ka-tY5g90msSTYibD5CtH4qv-P2GRqN2

Thanks for the pics.

Ok, there are several options here at play:

As I have said before, hardlocks indicate a hardware failure somewhere. I'd suspect the power supply.

Working under that assumption, it looks like you'd practically need to dissemble the PC to replace the power supply...

....so....and I have seen this before, several times (in other words, it's not an uncommon issue)....you might have a short between the system and the case, causing this.

So pull out the motherboard from the case, and place on something like a phonebook, power it up, and see what happens.

If it *doesn't* hardlock, then you know you've got a short somewhere.

If it *does* hardlock, then I'd suspect a bad power supply being unable to provide enough juice to keep it running.

 

 

[Kalby]

1 hour ago, Radium_Angel said:

Thanks for the pics.

Ok, there are several options here at play:

As I have said before, hardlocks indicate a hardware failure somewhere. I'd suspect the power supply.

Working under that assumption, it looks like you'd practically need to dissemble the PC to replace the power supply...

....so....and I have seen this before, several times (in other words, it's not an uncommon issue)....you might have a short between the system and the case, causing this.

So pull out the motherboard from the case, and place on something like a phonebook, power it up, and see what happens.

If it *doesn't* hardlock, then you know you've got a short somewhere.

If it *does* hardlock, then I'd suspect a bad power supply being unable to provide enough juice to keep it running.

 

 

What are some great power supply for it?

 

[Radium_Angel]

1 hour ago, Alby Kadavilan said:

What are some great power supply for it?

 

There is a thread about top tier power supplies....hold tight let me find it

 

[Kalby]

4 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

There is a thread about top tier power supplies....hold tight let me find it

So as you said I took out the mobo and everything from the case. Ran the test its been half n hour, it didn't freeze. Anyways imma change the PSU anyways since its semi and I need custom cables?. BTW pc part picker recommends around 580 watts (with SLI, I don't have SLI at the time but will get one more GPU soon and more like fans RGB peripherals etc) PSU. So if you could, LMK the best PSU (at least 700w) under 120 dollars. 

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[Radium_Angel]

6 hours ago, Alby Kadavilan said:

So if you could, LMK the best PSU (at least 700w) under 120 dollars. 

I'm not an expert on that, you really ought to ask in the power supply thread