Looking to replace R9 390x

[kampfer5191]

Hi guys and gals. i have a xfx r9 390x paired with a ryzen 3 1300x on an asus prime x370 pro mobo. when playing games and with certain oc settings i can tell my gpu is starting to show its age. i am looking to upgrade and was thinking of one of the amd vega cards or possibly switching back to a nvidia card. should i wait for possible release of new cards or get one sooner, probably around late semptember? budget will around the $700. thanks

[ivan134]

The bottleneck is your CPU, not your GPU. Three 390x and 390 are still very good cards.

[Munchie]

Well, it depends on if you want support for newer features, such as HDR or new anti aliasing techniques. There's nothing wrong with getting the latest hardware. Although, if you are looking for a high end AMD card, it's gonna be difficult. I suggest waiting for new Nvidia cards rumored to be released in the coming weeks or so.

[kampfer5191]

33 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

The bottleneck is your CPU, not your GPU. Three 390x and 390 are still very good cards.

when i tested my setup and simulated builds with higher gpus that my cpu was fine. i don't think it'll be a bigger bottleneck until i hit heavy cpu use games. i oc my 1300x to 4GHz when i am in those kinds of games and don't see terribly high cpu loads. max i have seen was 98% in those games. but i can get my gpu to be at 100% load for quite some time in games and hit the 94C thermal throttle with a 1150MHz core clock and 1550MHz mem clock. i will be getting a ryzen 7 1800x when the prices comes down around black friday or even earlier.

i've been tossing the idea of either the 1080/ti, or vega 56/64.

32 minutes ago, Munchie said:

Well, it depends on if you want support for newer features, such as HDR or new anti aliasing techniques. There's nothing wrong with getting the latest hardware. Although, if you are looking for a high end AMD card, it's gonna be difficult. I suggest waiting for new Nvidia cards rumored to be released in the coming weeks or so.

since i would be waiting a few to pick up a new card, those should be announced by then and a release date as well. so hopefully they aren't too far off.

[PlayStation 2]

What games are you having trouble with?

[aezakmi]

The 390X as the 290X is still a pretty decent card, I know the 290X rivals the 470 in certain games because I tested both so the 390 is a bit over the 290 level, you shouldn't replace it YET unless you're looking to replace it with let's say a 1070Ti or 1080Ti

If the card throttles is because it doesn't has enough power or cooling, plus you're pairing it with an entry level CPU

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, kampfer5191 said:

when playing games and with certain oc settings i can tell my gpu is starting to show its age.

So it crashes? Freezes??

Stuff like that?

What PSU do you have??

To be honest: I'd rater try to keep the GPU and survive another year, if possible and switch with the changed manufacturing node.

 

And, as sugested, also think about going for a 2700...

[kampfer5191]

37 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

What games are you having trouble with?

here's a good idea of most of the games i play. along with Escape from Tarkov which is a killer on cpu and gpu. it's not that i'm having trouble just hitting a few hiccups and frame drops from time to time.

35 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

The 390X as the 290X is still a pretty decent card, I know the 290X rivals the 470 in certain games because I tested both so the 390 is a bit over the 290 level, you shouldn't replace it YET unless you're looking to replace it with let's say a 1070Ti or 1080Ti

If the card throttles is because it doesn't has enough power or cooling, plus you're pairing it with an entry level CPU

the card uses a 6 and an 8 pin connector, i do have them on the same cable with a pigtail. and i've adjusted my fan to be a little more aggressive, and to be honest i can't remember my power supply, just that it's a 1000w bronze. it's 9 years old and has been in 3 of my builds.

28 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

So it crashes? Freezes??

Stuff like that?

What PSU do you have??

To be honest: I'd rater try to keep the GPU and survive another year, if possible and switch with the changed manufacturing node.

 

And, as sugested, also think about going for a 2700...

it doesn't crash or freeze, but if i do too big of an oc i get screen tearing. i do want to get an 1800x. a 2700x would be nice as well, but i have an asus prime x370 pro board, and i know i could run a 2700/x on it or even do bios flash to run it with all the features.

[PlayStation 2]

1 minute ago, kampfer5191 said:

here's a good idea of most of the games i play. along with Escape from Tarkov which is a killer on cpu and gpu. it's not that i'm having trouble just hitting a few hiccups and frame drops from time to time.

Ugh... fuck PUBG's optimization.

What settings do you run it at?

[kampfer5191]

41 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Ugh... fuck PUBG's optimization.

What settings do you run it at?

for pubg i was just on yesterday for the first time in awhile so my settings were rest to what it my hardware can do... ultra everything at 1080p. i was getting 60-80fps depending on what was going on. i changed them back to medium for smoother frames and was getting 70-90 with a rare spike to 100fps.

my normal oc settings for the 390x:

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, kampfer5191 said:

for pubg i was just on yesterday for the first time in awhile so my settings were rest to what it my hardware can do... ultra everything at 1080p. i was getting 60-80fps depending on what was going on. i changed them back to medium for smoother frames and was getting 70-90 with a rare spike to 100fps.

my normal oc settings for the 390x:

Check how CPU and GPU usage is in PUBG. If neither are tapping out then PUBG is just doing shit in the optimization department.

[kampfer5191]

here are few screenshots i just took. i literally lasted 2 minutes lol. when i was on the ground i was at 80fps, wouldn't let me take more than 3 screenshots with f12 using steams shortcut. i wasn't alive long enough to hit thermal throttle, but when i died it the temp on the gpu was 88C and it would still go up. my cpu won't go above 51C since it has a cooler master 240mm AIO (got it cheap and figured it'd be future proof)

[kampfer5191]

i also play the forza games a lot on my computer so i did a lengthy race to see how the loads and temps are. i used forza 7 since that's what installed, so i think horizon 3 may put a little more load and therefore temps as well from it being open world. but the temps for gpu was a steady 60-62C with load going from 0-100% but mainly in the 20-40%, and cpu was 78-91% with temps 48-53C. frames are capped at 60FPS and there was no drop in a 15 minute race. interestingly during the loading of the race cpu was 100% but temps were 51-53C and gpu was 95-100% with temps at 64C. settings are set to 1080p and everything set to dynamic. the cpu did jump to 100% twice when i went into shadows with cars around.

[kampfer5191]

one last thing. when upgrading cpu to say the 2700x from my 1300x on an asus prime x370 pro i have bios version 3803. is that the version to run the ryzen 2xxx series cpus?

[Munchie]

12 minutes ago, kampfer5191 said:

one last thing. when upgrading cpu to say the 2700x from my 1300x on an asus prime x370 pro i have bios version 3803. is that the version to run the ryzen 2xxx series cpus?

Check Asus's support website. They should have a list of BIOS versions, one of them should say "support for Bristol Ridge, Summit Ridge" and others.

[Munchie]

I checked it for you. Yes, 3803 is the latest BIOS version which support all second gen Ryzen CPUs.

[kampfer5191]

their website says that i am good to go. so i guess i'll be picking up a 2700x/2600x, and whatever gpu would go good with it

[Munchie]

awesome. New Nvidia graphics cards are coming out later this month and some others following it.

[kampfer5191]

hopefully they're in stock in september. i kind of want to stay with amd, but i haven't heard news on their new cards

[Munchie]

ye