Advice on new setup

[Compynowby]

Hey everyone I've got a Dell 7010 and its got fairly decent i guess specs for the gaming i generally do but I severely need to upgrade my graphics card. My set up is a core i5 3570 3.4Ghz, 16gb ddr3, stock dell mobo, evga 600w semi modular power supply and currently an asus gtx560ti. (you see my problem?) I'm not expecting earth shattering performance as I have a fairly old monitor with a seemingly now oddball res of 1600x900. i found a good deal on a gtx 1060 and I was just wondering if anyone had any advice on wether the setup would be decent for things like r6 siege, gta  V, and the odd moba or two and games like rust or raft. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.

[Streetguru]

27 minutes ago, Compynowby said:

 

What's the price of that 1060? and if it's a 3GB model I probably wouldn't bother.

[Compynowby]

It's a 6gb for around $280~

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Compynowby said:

It's a 6gb for around $280~

That isn't a good deal at all if you're in the US

 

An RX 580 8GB is $239 right now, and gives you free-sync savings whenever you upgrade your display
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QZNRr7
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QZNRr7/by_merchant/

Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB DUAL Video Card  ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor  ($126.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $366.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

oh my... but sure I guess go for it, you won't be bottlenecking anything seriously ( just a tiny bit maybe idk )  just for safe measures in the future upgrade your cpu to a i7 3770k theres a lot more performance involved if you do so even if theres bottlenecks or not.

[Streetguru]

34 minutes ago, Compynowby said:

stock dell mobo

 

1 minute ago, InMiseryWeSeekPancakes said:

i7 3770k

Eh. VRM is probably crap for overclocking, dunno if it's even a Z chipset.

[Compynowby]

Well i never really even considered an amd graphics card, honestly because i just dont like the way they look and from what i've seen it seems like they tend to run hotter than nvidia.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

An RX 580 8GB

Yeah an RX 580 8 GB is better than a gtx 1060 period. And I found a couple for 200 bucks .

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

 

Eh. VRM is probably crap for overclocking, dunno if it's even a Z chipset.

I have a friend that gots one he saids its overclocks fine. 

[Compynowby]

well i eventually plan on new mobo and all so i want a gcard i can take with me in a year or so and not have to run out and buy another one right away and i have considered a 3770 i just dont know that for what im playing 90% of the time would help me out

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Compynowby said:

Well i never really even considered an amd graphics card, honestly because i just dont like the way they look and from what i've seen it seems like they tend to run hotter than nvidia.

Not really no, under a gaming load the RX 580 is within 50W at stock, and probably equal with an undervolt, and an Nvidia G-sync display for adaptive refresh tech is usually $100 more than the free-sync version. Choice is pretty easy between those 2.

 

3 minutes ago, Compynowby said:

well i eventually plan on new mobo and all so i want a gcard i can take with me in a year or so and not have to run out and buy another one right away and i have considered a 3770 i just dont know that for what im playing 90% of the time would help me out

No point in buying a new motherboard for an old platform, better off just jumping on AM4 at that point, DDR4 is a bit of an issue though.

 

The i7 isn't worth it for gaming unless you're getting it for like $50.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

get a i7 3770 in the future, now get a rx 580 8 gb because I found one for 200 bucks 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-Radeon-RX-580-GTS-XXX-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphics-Card/273390904193?epid=245236870&hash=item3fa75e2381%3Ag%3AOFkAAOSwAopbZ0gH&_sacat=0&_nkw=rx+580+8+gb&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

[Compynowby]

well i meant new mobo and processor together and i had considered a  3770 for current set up not future 

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

All other lga 1155 cpu's are shit to be honest and even not even regarding the socket the processor in general is good for its price

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-Radeon-RX-580-GTS-XXX-Edition-8GB-GDDR5-Graphics-Card/273390904193?epid=245236870&hash=item3fa75e2381%3Ag%3AOFkAAOSwAopbZ0gH&_sacat=0&_nkw=rx+580+8+gb&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

 

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The i7 isn't worth it for gaming unless you're getting it for like $50.

I mean what can you find for 50 bucks that supports his socket? 

[Streetguru]

Just now, InMiseryWeSeekPancakes said:

I mean what can you find for 50 bucks that supports his socket? 

That's the point, that i7 has to be really cheap to be worth the upgrade for gaming, some games don't even care about the extra threads.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

Just now, Compynowby said:

Just now, Compynowby said:

well i meant new mobo and processor together and i had considered a  3770 for current set up not future 

Well the future 

Is a different story like I said an i7 3770 is good for your build look up gameplay for it, it supports hyper threading, 4 cores 8 threads-  and with a rx 580 ti your good.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

And

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

some games don't even care about the extra threads.

And some games do, sometimes theres no harm in having more  

 

For the price to performance ratio its good in general. I'm using experience from a friend and several youtube videos doing benchmarks and gameplay.

[SupaKomputa]

what's your budget for the CPU before wasting us time.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

He saids he was considering an i7 3770 which is around 100 bucks

[Compynowby]

i think the cpu part is kinda getting off point lol im more concrened with gpu right now above anything else because right now the cpu isnt hurting performance for anything ive been playing the gpu is the only issue thus far

[Sahem]

@Compynowby As you said you need a new GPU let me explain that the RX 580 is better than a GTX 1060 in some games and others the 1060 is better because they are very close in performance. 

 

Personally I would choose the RX 580 because if you upgrade to a better monitor FreeSync is cheaper and frankly the same as GSync some people on the internet say stuff about AMD that isn't exactly true like with it being hotter maybe by like a few degrees but ultimately it depends on case and fans. 

 

in terms of your CPU as you said its fine for now but later on I would say choose Ryzen over Intel because Ryzen = More value and multi-core performance for consumers don't bother upgrading your CPU on your platform save and get Ryzen and with RX 580 you will get very nice performance. 

 

Just saying this is entirely an opinion (mostly) and everyone is different