Cable Surge Protection??

[AMD Lover]

So I'm installing a media panel in my house and was debating on how to handle the surge. Theres going to be a UPS in this media panel so my question is can I use the built in surge on the UPS? I've heard some people say built in surge is useless and to have dedicated surge protection.

 

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[W-L]

6 minutes ago, AMD Lover said:

So I'm installing a media panel in my house and was debating on how to handle the surge. Theres going to be a UPS in this media panel so my question is can I use the built in surge on the UPS? I've heard some people say built in surge is useless and to have dedicated surge protection.

 

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It's the same as a regular surge protector in a power bar but in general for a UPS it has very minimal surge rating since most times it will just swap over to the battery backup if power quality degrades and will keep it there until it improves. 

[johnny5c]

32 minutes ago, AMD Lover said:

So I'm installing a media panel in my house and was debating on how to handle the surge. Theres going to be a UPS in this media panel so my question is can I use the built in surge on the UPS? I've heard some people say built in surge is useless and to have dedicated surge protection.

 

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When you say "cable surge protection" are you talking about protecting a coaxial cable like RG6 for cable or satellite TV?  If so the UPS should be adequate.  I have a CyberPower UPS and in the warranty it states it will cover all connected equipment, no just items being powered by the unit but  stuff connected by coaxial and RG45 too.

[AMD Lover]

37 minutes ago, W-L said:

It's the same as a regular surge protector in a power bar but in general for a UPS it has very minimal surge rating since most times it will just swap over to the battery backup if power quality degrades and will keep it there until it improves. 

 

3 minutes ago, johnny5c said:

When you say "cable surge protection" are you talking about protecting a coaxial cable like RG6 for cable or satellite TV?  If so the UPS should be adequate.  I have a CyberPower UPS and in the warranty it states it will cover all connected equipment, no just items being powered by the unit but  stuff connected by coaxial and RG45 too.

 

Yeah I'm talking about coaxial and telephony. We've had lighting come in 4 times. The first I didn't have any surge and it fried multiple things, the other three it fried a surge protector but I was wondering if the built in UPS surge would be good enough or if I should put in dedicated for the coax and telephone.

[W-L]

1 minute ago, AMD Lover said:

Yeah I'm talking about coaxial and telephony. We've had lighting come in 4 times. The first I didn't have any surge and it fried multiple things, the other three it fried a surge protector but I was wondering if the built in UPS surge would be good enough or if I should put in dedicated for the coax and telephone.

You can use the one on the surge protector, I personally like to use dedicated ones with a thick ground cables for cable management and knowing what's happening with the connection. 

https://www.amazon.com/JVI-60-GB44SCUL-QUAD-GROUND-BLOCK/dp/B000A0G3B0/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1532913718&sr=8-22

 

[johnny5c]

Just now, AMD Lover said:

 

 

Yeah I'm talking about coaxial and telephony. We've had lighting come in 4 times. The first I didn't have any surge and it fried multiple things, the other three it fried a surge protector but I was wondering if the built in UPS surge would be good enough or if I should put in dedicated for the coax and telephone.

Just because you're kinda unlucky with lighting I'd probably run a inline.  I got hit about 3 years ago and it fried a UPS through a coaxial antenna line so better having a $20 inline unit sticking its neck out than a $100+ UPS.

 

https://www.amazon.com/TII-Broadband-Satellite-Lightning-Protector/dp/B0016AIYU6/ref=pd_sbs_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0016AIYU6&pd_rd_r=WVH48H9BCRVCRCE9G1Y2&pd_rd_w=ATbAp&pd_rd_wg=XBQ6E&psc=1&refRID=WVH48H9BCRVCRCE9G1Y2

[AMD Lover]

3 minutes ago, W-L said:

You can use the one on the surge protector, I personally like to use dedicated ones with a thick ground cables for cable management and knowing what's happening with the connection. 

https://www.amazon.com/JVI-60-GB44SCUL-QUAD-GROUND-BLOCK/dp/B000A0G3B0/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1532913718&sr=8-22

 

Do you know if it would be okay to tie it into the ground on the electrical or would it be better to run a dedicated ground outside. The media panel is on an outside wall (15ft to the ground) whereas the electrical has to travel 80ft or so.

[W-L]

4 minutes ago, AMD Lover said:

Do you know if it would be okay to tie it into the ground on the electrical or would it be better to run a dedicated ground outside. The media panel is on an outside wall (15ft to the ground) whereas the electrical has to travel 80ft or so.

Ideally tie it to the ground via a line to say a copper waterpipe or grounding rod if you have one nearby. 

[Donut417]

32 minutes ago, AMD Lover said:

 

 

Yeah I'm talking about coaxial and telephony. We've had lighting come in 4 times. The first I didn't have any surge and it fried multiple things, the other three it fried a surge protector but I was wondering if the built in UPS surge would be good enough or if I should put in dedicated for the coax and telephone.

https://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-Cable-Coaxial-Protector/dp/B01L5JN0UQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1532915466&sr=8-3&keywords=coax+surge+protector

I think this will work.

 

Like @W-L said, the surge protection in a UPS is about the same as a standard surge strip. Just things plugged in to the battery portion of the UPS get the extra protection of the battery if the voltage goes high. Though if lightning struck the line your probably still fucked, unless you have a surge protector in your electrical panel. Above is a surge protector for coax, though again a direct hit by a bolt of lightning and it cant say this will provide you with 100% protection. 

 

ALSO check to make sure your cable provider put a grounding block on the line coming in to your house, as its code. This will give lightning a suggestion to go to ground rather than inside to fuck your life.