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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

50$ and 100$ for a decent CPU?

 

I think that is pretty good

Yes but for $100 you could get a 2600K instead

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Z87 Plus is very similar to my old Z87-A, just has a few more features. Overall a very good board, quite stable and has a lot of overclocking options in the BIOS. Not a fan of the black and gold colour scheme personally hence why I swapped mine out but still, good board.

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2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Or a new CPU with the same amount of cores....... That also has an upgrade path.......

And half the threads, more expensive RAM and worse performance in most task

 

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4 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

And half the threads, more expensive RAM and worse performance in most task

 

Same or better performance in games (without overclocking) actually.

 

Worse in multithreaded where all 8 threads get used.

 

Why invest in an old plattform when you can get new? Ram pricing depends if you wanna go used or not.

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Same or better performance in games (without overclocking) actually.

 

Worse in multithreaded where all 8 threads get used.

 

Why invest in an old plattform when you can get new? Ram pricing depends if you wanna go used or not.

I mean fair but you could get 8GB of DDR4, a 2200G and A320 or cheap af b350 or 16GB of DDR3, a 2600K, a Z board and a cooler for the same price. I know which I'd pick

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6 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

I mean fair but you could get 8GB of DDR4, a 2200G and A320 or cheap af b350 or 16GB of DDR3, a 2600K, a Z board and a cooler for the same price. I know which I'd pick

Fair enough. I also know which one id pick. One will be significantly cheaper to upgrade or get rid of than the other. 

 

It is more or less down to wether or not you want to keep upgrading the PC. Replacing the 1200/2200g with a 4200 in the future is a nice thing though

 

 

Edit: i also think of investing in the 2000 series intel as the same as investing in same gen FX. its rarely worth

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

Fair enough. I also know which one id pick. One will be significantly cheaper to upgrade or get rid of than the other. 

 

It is more or less down to wether or not you want to keep upgrading the PC. Replacing the 1200/2200g with a 4200 in the future is a nice thing though

With the 2600K rig you get a capable system now and you can wait longer to upgrade so you can afford more when you do upgrade

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Just now, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

With the 2600K rig you get a capable system now and you can wait longer to upgrade so you can afford more when you do upgrade

Now i wouldnt call the 2600k much more capable for future games and such.

 

The 1200/2200g/8100 is just as capable now, you do loose out on the ram though. These CPUs will also last you quite a few years. 

 

The cheaper case of only paying for a CPU, RAM and GPU upgrade instead of also having to pay for a mobo is very tempting

 

 

Though we can agree to disagree, but ill hold firm on a newer more update system will quite often be the better buy

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1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Now i wouldnt call the 2600k much more capable for future games and such.

 

The 1200/2200g/8100 is just as capable now, you do loose out on the ram though. These CPUs will also last you quite a few years. 

 

The cheaper case of only paying for a CPU, RAM and GPU upgrade instead of also having to pay for a mobo is very tempting

 

 

Though we can agree to disagree, but ill hold firm on a newer more update system will quite often be the better buy

Yeah but with the 2200G you have to upgrade in a year or so whereas with the 2600k and something like a 1070 you'll do fine for a while and then you can do a total overhaul when you've got the money

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1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Yeah but with the 2200G you have to upgrade in a year or so whereas with the 2600k and something like a 1070 you'll do fine for a while and then you can do a total overhaul when you've got the money

Nah, you can wait quite a few years. In most games the 2200/1200 will have the same performance. You can wait a year after 4000 series come out to get good deals. Or black friday. In graphically intensive games more often than not the GPU is the bottleneck anyway.

 

You seem to underestimate what these cheap chips can do. To people i do recommend upgrading the CPU to 7nm Ryzen, though its not neccesary to do so.

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