NEW PC vs OLD PC (HELP)

[DWOK]

Hello! I am currently running an ACER ATC-705-EB54 specs listed below, and I'm looking to custom build a new PC. I'm curious if this new build will be beneficial or not, I mainly play Fortnite and stream on Twitch using Stream labs/OBS  and would like to know if this upgrade will help me see substantial FPS increases and overall speed increases,I generally get in between 110 fps and 180 (rarely will hit 80 or 90). I'm also going from 12gb of DDR3 RAM to 8gb of DDR4 is that dumb?And is going from a i7 4790 to a i5 8600k stupid? I don't think it is i've heard great reviews but would like confirmation,  also feel free to suggest parts I should swap/use in my new build and let me know if anything is incompatible or old, thanks!

Current PC

• Intel Core i7 4790 @ 3.60GHz  Haswell 22nm Technology
• 2 TB HDD
• GeForce 1050 ti 4gb
• 650w corsair gold certified 80+ powersupply
• 12gb DDR3 Dual channel @798MHz
• Acer Aspire TC-705 (LGA1150)

 

That's just a general outline all specs are listed here please take a look and compare old to new thanks

( http://honorcomp.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=38219 )

 

New PC

• Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
• CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler
• Asus - Prime Z370-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
• G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
• Corsair - Carbide Series 275R (Black w/Tempered Glass) ATX Mid Tower Case
• Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
• 2tb HDD
• 250gb SSD

• MasterAir MA621P TR4 Edition RGB CPU Cooler w/ 2x 120mm Air Balance RGB Fans

• Geforce 1050 ti

Thanks for all the help guys seriously means a lot, I'm new to all of this and these questions may seem obvious/dumb but it just helps me confirm that I'm not wasting my money  <3

Budget is max $1500 CAD but I'm trying to get more 1200-1300 area and I love in Ontario, Canada!

[Crunchy Dragon]

Personally, I'd just keep the older system.

 

The 4790 has 8 threads, which is 2 more than the 8600K, as well as higher clocks.

RAM is also another reason I'd keep the older system, 8Gb is somewhat limiting.

[DWOK]

3 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Personally, I'd just keep the older system.

 

The 4790 has 8 threads, which is 2 more than the 8600K, as well as higher clocks.

RAM is also another reason I'd keep the older system, 8Gb is somewhat limiting.

what would make my new PC build substantially better than my old, more ram 12gb 16gb?

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, DWOK said:

what would make my new PC build substantially better than my old, more ram 12gb 16gb?

16Gb would definitely be better.

That would really be the only worthwhile change in my opinion.

[Firewrath9]

I would waite for 9th gen coffee lake or ryzen 3000 and wait for 1160 or something like that

[DWOK]

4 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Personally, I'd just keep the older system.

 

The 4790 has 8 threads, which is 2 more than the 8600K, as well as higher clocks.

RAM is also another reason I'd keep the older system, 8Gb is somewhat limiting.

I also thought the new pc build might be better since i have more opportunity to upgrade, I could go from a 1050ti to a 1080 or ram is easily upgradable, since everything is newer.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, DWOK said:

I also thought the new pc build might be better since i have more opportunity to upgrade, I could go from a 1050ti to a 1080 or ram is easily upgradable, since everything is newer.

Even a Devil's Canyon i7 won't bottleneck a 1080.

DDR3 RAM isn't too hard to come by either, if anything it'll actually be easier to upgrade since DDR4 is more expensive.

 

Personally, I'd stick with the old rig and upgrade to Intel's 9th gen(when it comes out) or Ryzen.

[Redicat]

Eh i78600K is NOT a good upgrade AT ALL

Just buy a better heatsink if it's THROTTLING 

 

So what is your Budget AND Location, please?

[DWOK]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Even a Devil's Canyon i7 won't bottleneck a 1080.

DDR3 RAM isn't too hard to come by either, if anything it'll actually be easier to upgrade since DDR4 is more expensive.

 

Personally, I'd stick with the old rig and upgrade to Intel's 9th gen(when it comes out) or Ryzen.

any ideas when that's coming out, any other parts which I should wait for or swap? Mind giving me a brief outline of what a better version of my new PC would look like (just like mobo,ram,cpu,gpu stuff like that) thanks!

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, DWOK said:

any ideas when that's coming out, any other parts which I should wait for or swap? Mind giving me a brief outline of what a better version of my new PC would look like (just like mobo,ram,cpu,gpu stuff like that) thanks!

9th gen is supposedly set to launch Q3 2018.

 

Essentially Coffee Lake but with 8 cores.

[DWOK]

1 minute ago, Redicat said:

Eh i78600K is NOT a good upgrade AT ALL

Just buy a better heatsink if it's THROTTLING 

 

So what is your Budget AND Location, please?

just updated my budget onto thread

[Redicat]

5 minutes ago, DWOK said:

any ideas when that's coming out, any other parts which I should wait for or swap? Mind giving me a brief outline of what a better version of my new PC would look like (just like mobo,ram,cpu,gpu stuff like that) thanks!

• 12gb DDR3 Dual channel @798MHz WHUT you sure you are NOT making ANY mistakes?

 

 

USD or CAD????

4 minutes ago, DWOK said:

just updated my budget onto thread

[DWOK]

3 minutes ago, Redicat said:

• 12gb DDR3 Dual channel @798MHz WHUT you sure you are NOT making ANY mistakes?

tbh im pretty new to all this so im trying to be as specfic as possible idk what I forgot to mention or over metnioned, im just going off websites and speccy lul

[DWOK]

8 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Even a Devil's Canyon i7 won't bottleneck a 1080.

DDR3 RAM isn't too hard to come by either, if anything it'll actually be easier to upgrade since DDR4 is more expensive.

 

Personally, I'd stick with the old rig and upgrade to Intel's 9th gen(when it comes out) or Ryzen.

what does bottleneck mean? like stutter or something, are you reffering that my i7 4790 would not have any issues with a 1080? if thats the case dont i need a good motherboard and ram to run it?

[Redicat]

1 minute ago, DWOK said:

tbh im pretty new to all this so im trying to be as specfic as possible idk what I forgot to mention or over metnioned, im just going off websites and speccy lul

Try AND Acces your Eufi bios and see what speed the memory runs at 

[DWOK]

7 minutes ago, Redicat said:

• 12gb DDR3 Dual channel @798MHz WHUT you sure you are NOT making ANY mistakes?

 

 

USD or CAD????

cad

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, DWOK said:

what does bottleneck mean? like stutter or something, are you reffering that my i7 4790 would not have any issues with a 1080? if thats the case dont i need a good motherboard and ram to run it?

Bottleneck means that one component is not able to keep up with the other.

 

So a CPU bottleneck usually means the CPU is pinned at 100%, and the GPU is usually hanging around 30%. This is the case when a CPU cannot feed data to the GPU fast enough, so the GPU is stuck waiting around for the CPU.

A GPU bottleneck is basically reversed, the GPU is pinned at 100% waiting for the CPU.

 

Ideally in a gaming rig, you want your CPU and GPU to both be able to reach 100% load without holding the other one back at all.

Motherboard and RAM usually don't effect bottlenecks.

 

Your 4790 would not bottleneck a 1080.

[Redicat]

12 minutes ago, DWOK said:

cad

https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/5822 and enter serial number and tell me how many SATA 6GB/s ports are on the Computer (Motherboard)

 

Whuuut that Motherboard has Disk bus=SATA-150????? 
 

[DWOK]

9 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Bottleneck means that one component is not able to keep up with the other.

 

So a CPU bottleneck usually means the CPU is pinned at 100%, and the GPU is usually hanging around 30%. This is the case when a CPU cannot feed data to the GPU fast enough, so the GPU is stuck waiting around for the CPU.

A GPU bottleneck is basically reversed, the GPU is pinned at 100% waiting for the CPU.

 

Ideally in a gaming rig, you want your CPU and GPU to both be able to reach 100% load without holding the other one back at all.

Motherboard and RAM usually don't effect bottlenecks.

 

Your 4790 would not bottleneck a 1080.

if i use a 8700k and 16gb ddr4 ram would that be a significant upgrade worthwhile?

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

3 hours ago, DWOK said:

if i use a 8700k and 16gb ddr4 ram would that be a significant upgrade worthwhile?

Yes.