First build Ideas

[MadeInChina O69]

Build Idea 1: 
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MadeInChina_O69/saved/ZsqKZL

 

Build Idea 2:
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MadeInChina_O69/saved/3TxFt6

 

Idk what one to go with rn (the price is with a keyboard and mouse)
And if I go for build 2 will I need the commander pro?

 

budget ~$2500 for the computer parts (excluding perifuals)

 

I have a 4k 27” ips @60fps, planning on getting a second monitor 27” @144fps at 1440p

 

Im making a pc for gamming and trying to get into streaming/content creation

 

planning on OCing CPU and GPU!

[Thirdoh]

either way, you should really upgrade those PSUs. they system doesn't consume much power on paper but if you overclock and when you are gaming, it's going to draw WAAY more power. Upgrade them to 750 or 850 watts. The parts you change don't impact performance that much except the RAM. The Corsair RAM has marginally better read and write speeds and the g. skill ram has 4 nanoseconds less of access latency but if you are not bothered about that, chose the g.skill one. It looks better with the motherboard because its black and the ram slots and most of the stuff surrounding it is black. If you are bothered about the 0.00000001% faster speeds, choose the Corsair RAM

[MadeInChina O69]

3 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

either way, you should really upgrade those PSUs. they system doesn't consume much power on paper but if you overclock and when you are gaming, it's going to draw WAAY more power. Upgrade them to 750 or 850 watts. The parts you change don't impact performance that much except the RAM. The Corsair RAM has marginally better read and write speeds and the g. skill ram has 4 nanoseconds less of access latency but if you are not bothered about that, chose the g.skill one. It looks better with the motherboard because its black and the ram slots and most of the stuff surrounding it is black. If you are bothered about the 0.00000001% faster speeds, choose the Corsair RAM

Can I go for the black corsair vengance pro rgb insted? Btw it is cheaper I think!

 

if I go for a OC ~@5ghz for the cpu and a oc for the gpu will I still need to upgrade to a 750w psu and would a gold+ be better or a platnum+

[Thirdoh]

1 minute ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

Can I go for the black corsair vengance pro rgb insted? Btw it is cheaper I think!

 

if I go for a OC ~@5ghz for the cpu and a oc for the gpu will I still need to upgrade to a 750w psu and would a gold+ be better or a platnum+

Choose black corsair for optimum performance and upgrade that psu to 850w and your good

go for 850 or above because that gives you headroom, even though you are oc'd 

[MadeInChina O69]

6 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

Choose black corsair for optimum performance and upgrade that psu to 850w and your good

go for 850 or above because that gives you headroom, even though you are oc'd 

But wont a pcu be efficant if I use more w of a psu?

btw will the black ram match the build?

[Jurrunio]

It's Corsair versus NZXT between 1 and 2. Might as well go build 2 since the keyboard is Corsair.

 

You do need commander pro. Lighting node pro only has 2 LED headers, not enough.

 

4 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

Choose black corsair for optimum performance and upgrade that psu to 850w and your good

go for 850 or above because that gives you headroom, even though you are oc'd 

I apologize if I'm being impolite, but that's bullshit. We're talking a 1080ti and 8700k, not FX 9590 and Vega 64 LC. 

The FTW3 is limited to 360W power draw by the BIOS and cannot go over that (unless a modded BIOS is used), while 8700k will use at most 200w for a 5GHz attempt, even when hammering with Prime95. a 650w PSU is nowhere near maxxed out.

[MadeInChina O69]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's Corsair versus NZXT between 1 and 2. Might as well go build 2 since the keyboard is Corsair.

 

You do need commander pro. Lighting node pro only has 2 LED headers, not enough.

 

I apologize if I'm being impolite, but that's bullshit. We're talking a 1080ti and 8700k, not FX 9590 and Vega 64 LC. 

The FTW3 is limited to 360W power draw by the BIOS and cannot go over that (unless a modded BIOS is used), while 8700k will use at most 200w for a 5GHz attempt, even when hammering with Prime95. a 650w PSU is nowhere near maxxed out.

So a 650w psu is enough?

[Thirdoh]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

It's Corsair versus NZXT between 1 and 2. Might as well go build 2 since the keyboard is Corsair.

 

You do need commander pro. Lighting node pro only has 2 LED headers, not enough.

 

I apologize if I'm being impolite, but that's bullshit. We're talking a 1080ti and 8700k, not FX 9590 and Vega 64 LC. 

The FTW3 is limited to 360W power draw by the BIOS and cannot go over that (unless a modded BIOS is used), while 8700k will use at most 200w for a 5GHz attempt, even when hammering with Prime95. a 650w PSU is nowhere near maxxed out.

I see your point but having more than enough is always good. I wouldn't really feel comfortable running Games on an overclocked system that already slurps up 450 watts

[MadeInChina O69]

3 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

I see your point but having more than enough is always good. I wouldn't really feel comfortable running Games on an overclocked system that already slurps up 450 watts

But I wouldn’t I still have ~200w extra headroom with a 650w psu

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Thirdoh said:

I see your point but having more than enough is always good. I wouldn't really feel comfortable running Games on an overclocked system that already slurps up 450 watts

it's not 'more than enough', it's overkill.

 

1 minute ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

So a 650w psu is enough?

There's a good 750w unit that costs less, so I'd get that instead.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gWbwrH/seasonic-focus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fm

[Thirdoh]

2 minutes ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

But I wouldn’t I still have ~200w extra headroom with a 650w psu

Ok im OCD but Im my situation I wouldnt feel confortable

[Thirdoh]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's Corsair versus NZXT between 1 and 2. Might as well go build 2 since the keyboard is Corsair.

 

You do need commander pro. Lighting node pro only has 2 LED headers, not enough.

 

I apologize if I'm being impolite, but that's bullshit. We're talking a 1080ti and 8700k, not FX 9590 and Vega 64 LC. 

The FTW3 is limited to 360W power draw by the BIOS and cannot go over that (unless a modded BIOS is used), while 8700k will use at most 200w for a 5GHz attempt, even when hammering with Prime95. a 650w PSU is nowhere near maxxed out.

maybe your right. I think that a 750 is definitely enough headroom for his current system and expandability. 

[MadeInChina O69]

5 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

Ok im OCD but Im my situation I wouldnt feel confortable

I can understand the OCD part bc I wanted to go with a m.2 ssd and a 2.5” ssd just to fill that 2.5” bay at the front of the case untill i realized a m.2 is overkill and im a bit ocd ab my rgb lighting being all unified.

[MadeInChina O69]

6 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

maybe your right. I think that a 750 is definitely enough headroom for his current system and expandability. 

Btw what are your computer specs if u have one?

[MadeInChina O69]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

it's not 'more than enough', it's overkill.

 

There's a good 750w unit that costs less, so I'd get that instead.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gWbwrH/seasonic-focus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fm

Im just going to go with the 650w fullymodular psu

[Thirdoh]

2 minutes ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

I can understand the OCD part bc I wanted to go with a m.2 ssd and a 2.5” ssd just to fill that 2.5” bay at the front of the case untill i realized a m.2 is overkill and im a bit ocd ab my rgb lighting being all unified.

lol thx

if you are going to go for it go all out. get a gangsta m.2. 

[Thirdoh]

3 minutes ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

Btw what are your computer specs if u have one?

I have many computers (because of os) but right now Im using an iMac pro from apple. I got it for my b-day

[Thirdoh]

7 minutes ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

Btw what are your computer specs if u have one?

I have some old random Lenovo laptop with win 7

I have my pc which is still being built which is going to run ubuntu and then eventually win 10

[MadeInChina O69]

6 minutes ago, Thirdoh said:

lol thx

if you are going to go for it go all out. get a gangsta m.2. 

Nah im not going to do that it is not worth it for me rn

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

Im just going to go with the 650w fullymodular psu

fully modular and semi-modular differ in whether ATX 24pin and CPU 8pin being detachable or not. Not like you can run your PSU without these two anyway...

[MadeInChina O69]

14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

fully modular and semi-modular differ in whether ATX 24pin and CPU 8pin being detachable or not. Not like you can run your PSU without these two anyway...

Would it be more efficant to use a 650w or 750w? Bc I remember seeing stuff ab if you use ~60% or more whatts it will be more efficant

[Jurrunio]

38 minutes ago, MadeInChina O69 said:

Would it be more efficant to use a 650w or 750w? Bc I remember seeing stuff ab if you use ~60% or more whatts it will be more efficant

difference in efficiency will be within 3%, so unless you live in somewhere like German where electricity cost a lot, it's not worth going for the more expensive one for efficiency. I dont mind a little bit extra efficiency if prices is the same or less though.

[MadeInChina O69]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

difference in efficiency will be within 3%, so unless you live in somewhere like German where electricity cost a lot, it's not worth going for the more expensive one for efficiency. I dont mind a little bit extra efficiency if prices is the same or less though.

I think I cant go with the semi modular seasonic psu bc the gpu I am planning on using needs 2x8 pin pcie cables and I dont wana use a duel peie cable.

[Sernefarian]

Altered build 1 a little to cost efficiency optimize it. Also changed the PSU yes the PSU size is massive however it has been chosen to keep you within optimal electtrical waveform range both idel and under full load when overclocked. This should result in a more stable system.

 

The 750W suggested in an overclocked system would be beginning to enter the most unstable range  at it's high end as the system could be drawing as much as 720W worth of power. Roughly a range of 180W to 220W for CPU and the GPU in the range of 380-440 depending on a number of factors. Also take into consideration other componenets of your build and the draw associated with them and you arrive at my estimated number under max load of ~720W. PSUs have a tendency to operate the most efficiently between roughly 50% and 75% of their maximum load, under and over these % loads the waveforms of the currents they provide are less consistent and thus might harm the stability of your build.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($347.89 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($166.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($200.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($103.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB OC BLACK Video Card  ($754.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H700i ATX Mid Tower Case  ($197.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($104.99 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($14.00) 
Case Fan: NZXT - Aer RGB140 (3-pack) 71.6 CFM  140mm Fans  ($80.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 RGB MK.2 SE  Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($159.99 @ Best Buy) 
Other: NZXT Internal USB Port Expansion Kit, Black (AC-IUSBH-M1)  ($22.98 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Other: Razer Lancehead Tournament Edition Mercury Edition - Professional Grade RGB Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - 16,000 DPI  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: FSLabs Graphics Card GPU Brace Support, Video Card Sag Holder Bracket, Anodized Aerospace Aluminum (Upgraded Version Black)  ($13.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: CableMod PRO ModMesh SE-Series XP2 / XP3 / KM3 / FL2 Cable Kit – BLACK / WHITE ($99.90)
Other: CableMod AIO Sleeving Kit Series 2 for EVGA® CLC / NZXT® Kraken – WHITE ($19.90)
Total: $2627.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-14 02:25 EDT-0400

 

Suggest the DDR4 and SSD switches in your other build as well as at least a little beefier power supply. DDR4 is a win for performance change even though it's not RGB.. SSD change gives nearly the same performance at a lower price point. GPU switch saves you a little scratch and keeps triple fan design for the 1080Ti. Though if the vendor choice or their OC software was your main reason for prior choice then I suppose that is more important.

[MadeInChina O69]

Nvm

Edited July 14, 2018 by MadeInChina O69
Didnt need the help