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[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Is there any specific size screwdriver that I would need? I thought that it would be nice to have all the possible heads that I would need, plus it's magnetic and flexible.

Any normal screw driver

 

But if you want a nice toolkit Ifixit is the only answer, that phanteks one has some bad reviews on newegg

https://www.amazon.com/iFixit-Bit-Driver-Kit-Electronics/dp/B0189YWOIO/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1531162657&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=iFixit&psc=1

[thvSPARK]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

But if you want a nice toolkit Ifixit is the only answer, that phanteks one has some bad reviews on newegg

Good to know, thanks for the recommendation.

[brob]

A #2 Phillips should do the job.

[thvSPARK]

2 minutes ago, brob said:

A #2 Phillips should do the job.

If I only need one size, I'll probably just get a magnetic one of those then

[thvSPARK]

16 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Both are likely to be fine, the 1080 is probably faster overall, but free-sync can be nice to have. Would probably suggest just sticking to free-sync as an option rather than a bit more fps in the end

Final Update! (I hope) @Streetguru

I have two builds picked out right now. Advice on which to pick?

#1: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGsFXP

Includes a Vega 64 as the graphics card, but with slight compromises on the Mobo and PSU. Will 550 watts be enough?

#2: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Wv7Cb

Better motherboard and PSU, only a Vega 56.

 

Which would you choose?

Also, any advice on a motherboard is appreciated, swinging between the Aorus Gaming 7 and the Crosshair VII Hero. 

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Final Update! (I hope) @Streetguru

I have two builds picked out right now. Advice on which to pick?

#1: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGsFXP

Includes a Vega 64 as the graphics card, but with slight compromises on the Mobo and PSU. Will 550 watts be enough?

#2: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Wv7Cb

Better motherboard and PSU, only a Vega 56.

 

Which would you choose?

Also, any advice on a motherboard is appreciated, swinging between the Aorus Gaming 7 and the Crosshair VII Hero. 

Just buy like the $150 ASrock Fatal1ty or Taichi, or cheaper ASUS board or something, really don't need the best of the best motherboard. Is it really worth $100 for some more RGB lighting? lol

And it's really worth saving $100 and just getting Vega 56, as 64 isn't much faster, 56 may be better overall, as it'll hit higher clocks and be a bit cooler than 64.

 

Probably want the 650W PSU at least.
 

 

[thvSPARK]

2 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Just buy like the $150 ASrock Fatal1ty or Taichi, or cheaper ASUS board or something, really don't need the best of the best motherboard. Is it really worth $100 for some more RGB lighting? lol

And it's really worth saving $100 and just getting Vega 56, as 64 isn't much faster, 56 may be better overall, as it'll hit higher clocks and be a bit cooler than 64.

 

Probably want the 650W PSU at least.

Is the extra $100 really just for RGB? On the Crosshair, it really doesn't have all that much RGB, and it seems to just have more quality of life upgrades.

 

How will the 56 hit higher clocks?

 

I also have changed both builds to have a 650W

[Streetguru]

10 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

 

less cores = higher clocks at the same power usage. Since that's more power for the few cores avalible. Memory Speed is going to be the most important thing for Vega's performance anyways.

Can see it in the extreme Vega 56 overclocking.

 

I'm sure there's other things, but it's not really worth $250 unless you're doing LN2 or something for overclocking. The Strix should be fine on the higher end.
 

 

[thvSPARK]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

less cores = higher clocks at the same power usage. Since that's more power for the few cores avalible. Memory Speed is going to be the most important thing for Vega's performance anyways.

Can see it in the extreme Vega 56 overclocking.

 

I'm sure there's other things, but it's not really worth $250 unless you're doing LN2 or something for overclocking. The Strix should be fine on the higher end.

Oh ok that makes sense.

 

So for the motherboard, could you recommend the Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming?

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Oh ok that makes sense.

 

So for the motherboard, could you recommend the Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming?

It'll be way more than fine still
 

 

[thvSPARK]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It'll be way more than fine still
 

 

I'll probably just go with this then, considering it saves me quite a bit of money still.

 

Also, thanks again for all of the help you've given me, I've learned a lot, especially from the videos you include.

[Guyse]

Hey @Pyronyx, if you got the board already or still about to, it has some bugs ASUS hasn't addressed yet but the community was able to find solutions.

 

1.total black screen but PC still on yet you wont be able to restart using the power button
2.whole pc restarts out of nowhere

 

Experienced them myself and I thought I had a busted part.

Don't fret cos its happening also to the Rog Crosshair VII X470
those two are the really annoying stuff but there are solutions that the
community has found and actually works.

1.Turn off all CPU temp sensing apps that run at startup (leave just one you trust, I left my MSI afterburner to be the only one to start at boot)
2.Do not run multiple temp sensing apps at once. Take time on each of them and only use them when needing to edit something.
3.Avoid using the cpu temp feature in aura sync.

4.CAM (NZXT app software) <--- this, use it only for lighting options and nzxt fan (if you are using nzxt fans) and on your stuff that runs only on cam then close it afterwards.
5.AI Suite <--- this app is hell, causes a lot black magic hell on your pc, I personally uninstalled it along with the others in the community.

 

Asus said that its a bug between them and the windows 10 but they still aren't really showing signs to address these though.

 

been 3 weeks now since I did what the community suggested and all is fine now, I'm  leaving a link so you can read if you want.
 https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?102858-Asus-Strix-X470-F-Gaming-owners-thread

on page 8 there's a video but I do suggest to skim through from the beginning.
But its still a really good board, im using it for gaming and architectural 3D creation + rendering.

[thvSPARK]

5 hours ago, Guyse said:

Hey @Pyronyx, if you got the board already or still about to, it has some bugs ASUS hasn't addressed yet but the community was able to find solutions.

 

1.total black screen but PC still on yet you wont be able to restart using the power button
2.whole pc restarts out of nowhere

 

Experienced them myself and I thought I had a busted part.

Don't fret cos its happening also to the Rog Crosshair VII X470
those two are the really annoying stuff but there are solutions that the
community has found and actually works.

1.Turn off all CPU temp sensing apps that run at startup (leave just one you trust, I left my MSI afterburner to be the only one to start at boot)
2.Do not run multiple temp sensing apps at once. Take time on each of them and only use them when needing to edit something.
3.Avoid using the cpu temp feature in aura sync.

4.CAM (NZXT app software) <--- this, use it only for lighting options and nzxt fan (if you are using nzxt fans) and on your stuff that runs only on cam then close it afterwards.
5.AI Suite <--- this app is hell, causes a lot black magic hell on your pc, I personally uninstalled it along with the others in the community.

 

Asus said that its a bug between them and the windows 10 but they still aren't really showing signs to address these though.

 

been 3 weeks now since I did what the community suggested and all is fine now, I'm  leaving a link so you can read if you want.
 https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?102858-Asus-Strix-X470-F-Gaming-owners-thread

on page 8 there's a video but I do suggest to skim through from the beginning.
But its still a really good board, im using it for gaming and architectural 3D creation + rendering.

Thanks for the info, are there any boards that don't have these problems? I haven't bought mine yet.

[Guyse]

11 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Thanks for the info, are there any boards that don't have these problems? I haven't bought mine yet.

I don't know with gigabyte but iv'e read somewhere (probably in the thread contained in the link) MSI has worse, but not sure whatsoever.

[thvSPARK]

4 minutes ago, Guyse said:

I don't know with gigabyte but iv'e read somewhere (probably in the thread contained in the link) MSI has worse, but not sure whatsoever.

Oh alright I'll look into it then

[thvSPARK]

16 hours ago, Streetguru said:

I'm sure there's other things, but it's not really worth $250 unless you're doing LN2 or something for overclocking. The Strix should be fine on the higher end.

Another update: How's this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4G4NQ

Considering upgrading to a 1TB SSD, any suggestions?

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Another update: How's this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p4G4NQ

Considering upgrading to a 1TB SSD, any suggestions?

You could just get the entirely overkill gigabyte Gaming 7 Ultra thing with an actual VRM heatsink.

Though what happened to the case that actually had airflow lol.

Probably don't need a 1TB SSD, don't forget that you have StoreMI to speed up a hard drive you add to the system.
 

 

[thvSPARK]

37 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You could just get the entirely overkill gigabyte Gaming 7 Ultra thing with an actual VRM heatsink.

Though what happened to the case that actually had airflow lol.

Probably don't need a 1TB SSD, don't forget that you have StoreMI to speed up a hard drive you add to the system.

Gaming 7 or Ultra Gaming?

 

The Gamers Nexus Review of the H700 said it had good airflow, vents all around the case. Their review of the H500 said that case had pretty bad airflow. I'm also looking at the SilverStone RL06 though, which they rate as the best airflow case.

 

Good point, I'll stick with the 500GB for now

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

Their review of the H500 said that case had pretty bad airflow.

You mean the NZXT H500/i right? The airflow is probably better on the H700 compared to other NZXT cases, but it's not going to equal something like the RL06 pro, or CM H500

The Coolermaster H500 has 2 giant fans and a mesh front, would be impossible for it to have bad airflow, it's about on par with the RL06.

[thvSPARK]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

You mean the NZXT H500/i right? The airflow is probably better on the H700 compared to other NZXT cases, but it's not going to equal something like the RL06 pro, or CM H500

The Coolermaster H500 has 2 giant fans and a mesh front, would be impossible for it to have bad airflow, it's about on par with the RL06.

I cant find a black CM H500 case with mesh though

[thvSPARK]

Are you saying go with the Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 over the Asus ROG Strix X470-F?

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

I cant find a black CM H500 case with mesh though

It's like Grey/Black

http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/mastercase-h500/

Gaming 7 X470 is the one with the overkill VRM heatsink.

Either of the motherboards will be fine, same with the Crosshair VII

[thvSPARK]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

It's like Grey/Black

http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mid-tower/mastercase-h500/

Gaming 7 X470 is the one with the overkill VRM heatsink.

Either of the motherboards will be fine, same with the Crosshair VII

Oh that ones out of stock right now

 

Alright, I'll probably go with the Gaming 7 then, as it has the Dual Bios. Unless that feature isn't really important?

[thvSPARK]

9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Either of the motherboards will be fine, same with the Crosshair VII

I have heard that because most people use this board to overclock, there are more people able to help you with settings and such. Is that big enough of a plus to spend the extra money?

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Pyronyx said:

I have heard that because most people use this board to overclock, there are more people able to help you with settings and such. Is that big enough of a plus to spend the extra money?

Settings don't change across motherboards usually, just the BIOS, it sounds like you should probably just buy the crosshair VII so you stop worrying about it lol

Whatever case you end up with, so long as it has a mesh front you'll probably be fine on airflow. Could always just get the Mesh C or something.