Unknown Memory usage in task manager

[Halic99]

Odd thing happens to my PC i open up the task manager and the memory of it is suddenly at 80% used with nothing being used and less than an hour its at close to 93% then it freezes up and i have to hard restart it but it continued to be used up again and had to restart it hard again

[Windows7ge]

Did you try running any anti-virus or anti- malware? Do you know of anything you did recently that might have caused this?

 

It kind of sounds like a rouge process that just fills up the memory.

[Guest]

Use this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/rammap

 

 

[Halic99]

3 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

Did you try running any anti-virus or anti- malware? Do you know of anything you did recently that might have caused this?

 

It kind of sounds like a rouge process that just fills up the memory.

Cant install or run any kind of anti virus software not even the on board anti virus will work at all ive run into this issue before on another HDD. But this is the first time ive had memory usage issue. It just one day vanished then after a storm took out the power happened it reappeared then vanished after the power went out again

 

3 hours ago, Densetsu said:

Use this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/rammap

Tried that it was the very first thing i did didnt help one bit

[Windows7ge]

3 minutes ago, Halic99 said:

Cant install or run any kind of anti virus software not even the on board anti virus will work at all ive run into this issue before on another HDD.

If the RAM fills up too quickly for you to do anything you'll have to try booting off something else. If it happened on another HDD then beside the HDD was the rest of the hardware the same?

[Halic99]

7 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

If the RAM fills up too quickly for you to do anything you'll have to try booting off something else. If it happened on another HDD then beside the HDD was the rest of the hardware the same?

I can still use the HDDs im biding my time till i can update it since once i have the new parts id have to do a full OS reinstall

[Windows7ge]

1 minute ago, Halic99 said:

I can still use the HDDs im biding my time till i can update it

I'm just asking if all the hardware has been the same since then. I'm asking because it's possible you have a bad stick of RAM.

 

If the same issue occurred on a different drive then the problem is either an identical software issue or it's hardware.

[Halic99]

3 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

I'm just asking if all the hardware has been the same since then. I'm asking because it's possible you have a bad stick of RAM.

 

If the same issue occurred on a different drive then the problem is either an identical software issue or it's hardware.

Yeah no change in hardware the past couple of years it happened just recently happened over the past month

[Windows7ge]

8 minutes ago, Halic99 said:

Yeah no change in hardware the past couple of years it happened just recently happened over the past month

If the issue occurs immediately upon booting up then pull a stick of RAM then if the issue hasn't changed try pulling the other stick (and replacing the first one). Hopefully your 8GB is 2x4GB. Or you have a spare 8GB stick. If I'm wrong this was just a quick way to see if the RAM is physically OK. Next if we can say it isn't any kind of malware which can eat RAM then it might be an OS or driver conflict that just keeps shoving data into memory infinitely until it crashes.

[Halic99]

2 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

If the issue occurs immediately upon booting up then pull a stick of RAM then if the issue hasn't changed try pulling the other stick (and replacing the first one). Hopefully your 8GB is 2x4GB. Or you have a spare 8GB stick. If I'm wrong this was just a quick way to see if the RAM is physically OK. Next if we can say it isn't any kind of malware which can eat RAM then it might be an OS or driver conflict that just keeps shoving data into memory infinitely until it crashes.

I have 4x4gb ran sticks an i tried rearranging it. Im guessing its just the OS of windows 8.1 causing issues as wells as a virus. So im just biding my time for 5 months after i get new parts then do a full reinstall of the os hopefully itll get rid of that issue. I have all 16 gigs of ram 

i have15.8 GB of Free ram even when i have task manager opened up saying 80% memory used up

 

Also i get now crash message just a frozen screen with the mouse not moving at all

[Windows7ge]

7 minutes ago, Halic99 said:

I have 4x4gb ran sticks an i tried rearranging it. Im guessing its just the OS of windows 8.1 causing issues as wells as a virus. So im just biding my time for 5 months after i get new parts then do a full reinstall of the os hopefully itll get rid of that issue. I have all 16 gigs of ram 

Don't know why I thought you said 8GB. It's fine though if you already tested it physically. I'm thinking it's something in the OS then but that's gonna be hard to diagnose if task manager isn't telling you want's using the RAM.

[Halic99]

2 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Don't know why I thought you said 8GB. It's fine though if you already tested it physically. I'm thinking it's something in the OS then but that's gonna be hard to diagnose if task manager isn't telling you want's using the RAM.

I went the 4 slot way with the ram cause of games now a days, Yeah i prolly have a virus on it and cant install an anti virus program or run one on my rig

[Windows7ge]

2 hours ago, Halic99 said:

Also i get now crash message just a frozen screen with the mouse not moving at all

If it's a BSOD does it give you a crash code to look up?

 

2 hours ago, Halic99 said:

Yeah i prolly have a virus on it and cant install an anti virus program or run one on my rig

What happens if you try to install or run one?

[Halic99]

2 hours ago, Windows7ge said:

If it's a BSOD does it give you a crash code to look up?

No code or message just a frozen screen 

It acts like i clicked on it but it doesnt run the program

Even the windows defender got turned off and it says the group access was turned off even when i didnt touch it

[Windows7ge]

1 minute ago, Halic99 said:

It acts like i clicked on it but it doesnt run the program

Did you try right clicking and Run as Administrator? Tasks like this sometimes require admin privileges and the system doesn't always grant you it by default.

[Halic99]

5 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

Did you try right clicking and Run as Administrator? Tasks like this sometimes require admin privileges and the system doesn't always grant you it by default.

I tried everything under the sun an known program universe to get it running but no go in any place thats what i get for windows 8.1 ive had to reinstall it several times and had to deal with it saying windows not active when it was and the blue screen popping up telling to activate windows

[Windows7ge]

57 minutes ago, Halic99 said:

I tried everything under the sun an known program universe to get it running but no go in any place thats what i get for windows 8.1 ive had to reinstall it several times and had to deal with it saying windows not active when it was and the blue screen popping up telling to activate windows

What platform are you running? Like socket/chipset.

[Halic99]

33 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

What platform are you running? Like socket/chipset.

Im using a lga 1150 i5-4590 on a used GIGABYTE GA-Z97-HD3 (rev. 2.0) LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard if i remember right

[Windows7ge]

16 minutes ago, Halic99 said:

Im using a lga 1150 i5-4590 on a used GIGABYTE GA-Z97-HD3 (rev. 2.0) LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard if i remember right

The chipset isn't that old. I'd consider a hardware incompatibility if you said something like LGA1366 or x58 chipset because I've been told some people have Windows 10 working on them.

 

If this issue just showed up one day and not immediately following installing the OS then you probably have something undesirable installed in the OS. Continuing to run the system could be dangerous if it is infected because the infectious software could include a key logger or other forms of spyware. If the system won't let you install anti-virus you should boot off a different drive and tell the anti-virus/anti-malware to scan the drive we believe to have something infectious on it. If it has something then we should get some sort of result.

[Halic99]

32 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

The chipset isn't that old. I'd consider a hardware incompatibility if you said something like LGA1366 or x58 chipset because I've been told some people have Windows 10 working on them.

 

If this issue just showed up one day and not immediately following installing the OS then you probably have something undesirable installed in the OS. Continuing to run the system could be dangerous if it is infected because the infectious software could include a key logger or other forms of spyware. If the system won't let you install anti-virus you should boot off a different drive and tell the anti-virus/anti-malware to scan the drive we believe to have something infectious on it. If it has something then we should get some sort of result.

Well ill just have to wait till i can get new parts cause id have to do a fresh reinstall of windows 8.1

Cause i dont have another hdd for a windows install on it the one i do have tried a reformat and it only says 330 gb of 1tb on it

[Exdominator]

23 minutes ago, Halic99 said:

Well ill just have to wait till i can get new parts cause id have to do a fresh reinstall of windows 8.1

Cause i dont have another hdd for a windows install on it the one i do have tried a reformat and it only says 330 gb of 1tb on it

Try this https://www.malwarebytes.com/antirootkit/

[Halic99]

3 minutes ago, Exdominator said:

Try this https://www.malwarebytes.com/antirootkit/

My pc wont let me install no anti virus or root kit fixers of any kind. But thanks for the site offer i could try to down load it but doubt itll install or run for that matter

[Halic99]

1 hour ago, Exdominator said:

Try this https://www.malwarebytes.com/antirootkit/

well i'll be it actually downloaded, but i still can't run any anti-virus software

[Exdominator]

13 hours ago, Halic99 said:

well i'll be it actually downloaded, but i still can't run any anti-virus software

Try launching windows in safe mode and then see if it can run (im not a technician or anything so i may be talking bullshit right now)