Need help on upgrading computer

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

1. Budget & Location

$500 AUD

Would rather not spend all of it, but willing to.

 

2. Aim

Playing Vermintide 2, Doom (2016), Witcher 3, Dark Souls 3, Batman: Arkham Knight, Arma 2.

Will also probably do some editing in Adobe Premiere/After Effects and making music in FL Studio, from time to time.

 

3. Monitors

Currently just a 1080p/60Hz.

May upgrade to ultrawide or 144Hz in the future, but I assume that will require an upgrade of the GPU which I'm happy to keep with ATM.

 

4. Peripherals

Fine with what I have, but may need to buy Windows License as the OEM might be tied to some of the stock parts (as my build was from an Asus Vento A9, which is so rare I can't find a specs page for it).

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

Mostly I'm seeing the limitations of my CPU, especially in hordes on Vermintide 2 when it tanks the FPS down to 40. So I want to upgrade my CPU (which I'd need a new motherboard, RAM and probably PSU)

I'm willing to here upgrades of other parts excluding GPU (as I have recently bought it) as long as it fits within my budget.

 

Current Build

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v9wxgw
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/v9wxgw/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-750 2.66GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Stock Intel Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - P7H55-M Pro Micro ATX LGA1156 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (might be wrong)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card

Case: Asus Vento A9

PSU: Asus Vento A9 400W (450W Peak) Stock PSU
Case Fan: Cooler Master - JetFlo 95.0 CFM  120mm Fan
External Storage: Toshiba - Canvio Basics 1TB External Hard Drive

 

Edit:

Found some details for the case translated from russian site....

Size	Midi-Tower
Form factor mat. fees	ATX
Front panel material	Different materials
Housing material	Steel
Location БП (Probably PSU Location)	upper
Power supply	450 W
LCD display	No
Front panel connectors (Not sure about USB 3)	USB 3.0
Max. the length of the video card	34cm
Number of HDD mountings 3.5 "	9
Number of compartments 2.5 "	3
Number of compartments 5.25 "	4
Board size	full-size

 

 

[SolarNova]

Your likely looking at a Ryzen 5 upgrade. CPU, Mothebroard, and DDR4 ram. Around $450 AUD.

 

Somthing like.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($88.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.00 @ Umart)
Total: $445.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-15 23:59 AEST+1000

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: MSI - H310M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($76.32 @ Amazon Australia) 
Memory: Team - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($109.00 @ Umart) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($70.00 @ Umart) 
Total: $503.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-15 23:59 AEST+1000

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

12 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.00 @ Shopping Express)

9 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.00 @ Shopping Express)

Is there any advantages/disadvantages I should know about comparing CPU's?

Also I can use ATX, not just mirco ATX, if there is a cheap/better motherboard out there

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

Is there any advantages/disadvantages I should know about comparing CPU's?

 

the i5 performs better in games and generally better in adobe compared to the ryzen cpu, so i picked it.

[SolarNova]

MATX motherboard are cheaper. I original had an ATX in the list but noticed you were using a prebuilt system with a MATX motherboard so put it down to MATX just incase your case wasnt big enough.

 

Generaly speaking Intel has faster core speed so is the best. BUT Ryzen is such a good bang for buck CPU and is perfectly capable gaming CPU. Infact AMD's Ryzen CPU's have made a significant dent in Intel's market share, thats how good they are. So for the budget you got, i'd highley sugest Ryzen.

[bradleyk44]

as far as i know all oem licenses are on the mobo so you may need a new one

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

32 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Storage: Kingston - A400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($70.00 @ Umart)

So you thinking getting an SSD will be a good upgrade over the HDD I got now?

6 minutes ago, bradleyk44 said:

as far as i know all oem licenses are on the mobo so you may need a new one

I remember reading that somewhere, shame if my license is set up like that.

 

 

I'm also don't know to pick AMD or Intel, cos it basically productivity vs. game performace, and that AMD has stated it will support AM4 socket for a long time or something liek that. Could you guys give me any more pros and cons of both?

[bradleyk44]

10 minutes ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

I'm also don't know to pick AMD or Intel, cos it basically productivity vs. game performace, and that AMD has stated it will support AM4 socket for a long time or something liek that. Could you guys give me any more pros and cons of both?

If you did intel, you will be locked into a couple generations but with AMD you technically won't need to upgrade the mobo anytime soon but evidently the manufactures are having problems supporting all the chips AMD is launching on the am4 socket. Like the bios storage isn't big enough to support code for a lot of cpu families. Heres a link to what i'm talking about. 

 

 

As far as intel vs amd. Right now intel is slightly faster is most applications.

Edited June 15, 2018 by bradleyk44
Added link

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 hour ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

So you thinking getting an SSD will be a good upgrade over the HDD I got now?

I remember reading that somewhere, shame if my license is set up like that.

the SSD will be much faster than a HDD, so yes. try activating the key before you go out and buy a new one.

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

2 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the SSD will be much faster than a HDD, so yes. try activating the key before you go out and buy a new one.

Yeah I will, going to sleep on this a bit, and maybe get some opinions from friends of friends.

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

19 hours ago, SolarNova said:

 

19 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

 

18 hours ago, bradleyk44 said:

 

Talked to a friend of friend who make pc's for people near where I live

What do you guys think of this?

(Bit over, but PSU and Hybrid Drive I'll get when I have the money)

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BkLh7W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BkLh7W/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($135.00 @ IJK)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($112.55 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($84.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - JetFlo 95.0 CFM  120mm Fan
External Storage: Toshiba - Canvio Basics 1TB External Hard Drive
Total: $634.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-16 19:19 AEST+1000

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 hours ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

Talked to a friend of friend who make pc's for people near where I live

What do you guys think of this?

(Bit over, but PSU and Hybrid Drive I'll get when I have the money)

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BkLh7W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BkLh7W/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($248.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($135.00 @ IJK)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($112.55 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($84.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - JetFlo 95.0 CFM  120mm Fan
External Storage: Toshiba - Canvio Basics 1TB External Hard Drive
Total: $634.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-16 19:19 AEST+1000

don't bother with hybrids, they just end up running as slow as a HDD except for frequently used programs. an SSD would be better since you already have a 500gb HDD. get a CX450/M instead.

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

2 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

don't bother with hybrids, they just end up running as slow as a HDD except for frequently used programs. an SSD would be better since you already have a 500gb HDD. get a CX450/M instead.

He only said to get Hybrid as my HDD might fail soon

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

He only said to get Hybrid as my HDD might fail soon

why? just wait and monitor the drive once in a while, replace it with another HDD when it starts to fail.

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

why? just wait and monitor the drive once in a while, replace it with another HDD when it starts to fail.

How would i go about monitoring it?

[bradleyk44]

9 hours ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

How would i go about monitoring it?

Basically just when using it, see if it acts weird in any ways like missing folders, long access time for the drive, and other things that just seem off when using it normally. 

[RwAoNrDdOsM]

On 16/06/2018 at 9:52 PM, Herman Mcpootis said:

get a CX450/M instead.

Just realised you meant a PSU here, care to explain why this one over the one he chose?

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, RwAoNrDdOsM said:

Just realised you meant a PSU here, care to explain why this one over the one he chose?

the MWE isn't very good, the CX is much better.