PC Freezing / Shutting Down

[Arioch]

Hello there, and thank you for having me, i just joined these forums and i would like your assistance with my problem. (i made this post on another forum as well, and i just want your 2cents too, thank you very much)

Since i made (part by part) my PC, i always had some crashing issues, mostly shut downs, and i changed my MOBO under warranty for a new one.

Since then my pc was running okay, (a little hot but okay for the most part). Some months later, the pc started having freezes (complete freezes with the sound freezing to the point it was like TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR) and i had to reset or shut down the machine with the button.

Recent months, the PC freezes 2-10 times a day, randomly, (i might be watching youtube, playing a game, talking on facebook etc).

Last 5 days maybe 1-2 Freezes and about 6-7 Shutdowns again randomly... (mostly when im trying playing games  )

My PC Consists of:

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 (thats the one i recieved after i replaced the old one)
CPU: AMD FX - 8320 with Corsair H50 Hydro on it.
GPU: MSI Radeon R9 380x Gaming 4G
Ram: 8GB (2x Transcend 4GB DDR3.)
HDD: 1x OCZ SSD 120GB, 1x HDD Western digital 600GB.

Yeah, my pc is bad but blame my father for his choices on my birthday 5-6 years ago.

Anyway, in my attempts to fix my pc, after everything else failed i tried:

1) Changed the GPU for another one i had laying around.
2) Used 1 of the memory sticks alone, then the other, then on 2GB Kingston stick i had.
3) Disconnected all my 2 Disk drives and plugged each one alone with a clean installation of Win10 then i even used my External one.
-Disconnected Everything not needed from usb ports.

After all those steps PC kept crashing. So now im thinking is either the CPU or the MOBO who is to blame.. But i dont know.. and i dont have another mobo or another AMD cpu to try. 

Here is a Speccy for my PC:

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/HGDlDMPHWbyJnJYCvZCcACX

So thats all i can think of telling you! All efforts to fix this machine will be greatly appreciated.

If you have a question, want certain pictures or you want me to use any program to check something, please ask and ill try to answer ASAP.

Thank you for your time,
Gregory.

[Sauron]

Likely a graphics card problem, unfortunately you can't be sure without trying a different one. Make sure things are not overheating (by the way, FX chips should be below 64°C) as well.

 

It's extremely rare for a cpu to be defective on arrival without being completely broken, and since you changed your motherboard I doubt that's the culprit. The only other suspect, aside from the gpu, would be the power supply. Try checking event viewer to see what caused the last shutdown.

[Arioch]

7 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Likely a graphics card problem, unfortunately you can't be sure without trying a different one. Make sure things are not overheating (by the way, FX chips should be below 64°C) as well.

 

It's extremely rare for a cpu to be defective on arrival without being completely broken, and since you changed your motherboard I doubt that's the culprit. The only other suspect, aside from the gpu, would be the power supply. Try checking event viewer to see what caused the last shutdown.

I changed the GPU (says so on Original post), still freeze was there!! Thats why i, was thinking either CPU/Mobo!

 

PSU I have an old corsair cx(i think)-600.

 

Event viewr doesnt have time to write anything when shutdown/freeze happens... it just says, the previous shutdown was unexpected..

[Sauron]

Just now, Arioch said:

I changed the GPU (says so on Original post), still freeze was there!! Thats why i, was thinking either CPU/Mobo!

Right, I missed that.

2 minutes ago, Arioch said:

Event viewr doesnt have time to write anything when shutdown/freeze happens... it just says, the previous shutdown was unexpected..

Hmm, that's weird... even if you pull the plug the cause of shutdown will be recorded. Look for the latest "critical" event and it should say something in the "source" column. If it says something like "kernel power" it's probably the power supply.

[Arioch]

20 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Right, I missed that.

Hmm, that's weird... even if you pull the plug the cause of shutdown will be recorded. Look for the latest "critical" event and it should say something in the "source" column. If it says something like "kernel power" it's probably the power supply.

Yeah, thats the thing, the only critical is the ''the previous shutdown was unexpected'' when I get home ill take some screenshots... this pc is giving me nightmares for so many years......

[Arioch]

5 hours ago, Sauron said:

Right, I missed that.

Hmm, that's weird... even if you pull the plug the cause of shutdown will be recorded. Look for the latest "critical" event and it should say something in the "source" column. If it says something like "kernel power" it's probably the power supply.

So it says Kernel Power, but thats because i shut it down i think, so it lost power unexpectedly, cause if it was the PSU, 6 years now, wouldn't have failed already? i mean i have the freezes since i got it .. (well couple months after..)

This is the event viewer only critical issue for all these years :'( 

https://imgur.com/BvTKAdh 

[Sauron]

5 minutes ago, Arioch said:

So it says Kernel Power, but thats because i shut it down i think, so it lost power unexpectedly, cause if it was the PSU, 6 years now, wouldn't have failed already? i mean i have the freezes since i got it .. (well couple months after..)

If it was defective from the start I would consider that a failure... power supplies can be broken and still sort of work. To rule it out you could get someone to lend you another power supply. If it's not the power supply, given everything you've tried it must be either the motherboard or the cpu, and if it's been doing it from the start then it's probably the cpu.

[Arioch]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

If it was defective from the start I would consider that a failure... power supplies can be broken and still sort of work. To rule it out you could get someone to lend you another power supply. If it's not the power supply, given everything you've tried it must be either the motherboard or the cpu, and if it's been doing it from the start then it's probably the cpu.

can the PSU make the freezes tho? i could understand the instant shut down (crash) that started like a week now (although this could very well be temperatures, since when im gaming my mobo (according to open hardware) has 3 sensors and 1 of them shows 92c but can the PSU freeze the machine and not shut it down?? with the sound going TRRRRR?? anyway thnx again for the help! you are awesome!

[Sauron]

7 minutes ago, Arioch said:

can the PSU freeze the machine and not shut it down?? with the sound going TRRRRR??

It can if it causes another component to behave erratically; for example, if it takes power away from the graphics card but not from the motherboard your pc would malfunction but your motherboard would not treat it as power loss and it wouldn't shut itself down.

[Arioch]

9 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It can if it causes another component to behave erratically; for example, if it takes power away from the graphics card but not from the motherboard your pc would malfunction but your motherboard would not treat it as power loss and it wouldn't shut itself down.

OH, i never thought of that! i thought, when PSU fails, it fails, pc switches off! okay then! off to find another PSU! i will need one for the new pc im building too! i might be PMing you about recommendations for budget!! (yeah yeah u got someone asking you for advice now  )

[Arioch]

On 28/05/2018 at 12:17 AM, Sauron said:

It can if it causes another component to behave erratically; for example, if it takes power away from the graphics card but not from the motherboard your pc would malfunction but your motherboard would not treat it as power loss and it wouldn't shut itself down.

I found the problem, my pc hasnt froze or shut down for the last 5 hours..

i disassembled it, and reconnected it! Now it works smoothly. The problem? here, check for yourself.....

https://imgur.com/a/guJHNPa 

[Sauron]

6 hours ago, Arioch said:

I found the problem, my pc hasnt froze or shut down for the last 5 hours..

i disassembled it, and reconnected it! Now it works smoothly. The problem? here, check for yourself.....

https://imgur.com/a/guJHNPa 

Uhm... that's strange, if nothing was leaking that shouldn't have made a difference... oh well, as long as it works!