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My son turned 12 yesterday. ND he was asking me to get a new PC, as his old PC couldn't play the games he wanted to play. Currently, he has a Pentium 4 rig with a 720p display. Also, currently he plays CS 1.6 and Minecraft. He wants to play CS go but it runs very slow...like 10-15 fps. So, I want to build him a new system. My budget is around $350-450. I HV no problem in getting old parts...as I know the current GPU mining scenario. I am from Austin, TX . He wants to play newer games that other kids play. As he is currently limited in terms of games that he can actually play.

Along with the system I'll also need a decent 1080p monitor.

 

~Luke

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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I was thinking about getting something like this fr about $200-250  https://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dell+optiplex+9010&_sacat=179&Processor%20Type=Intel%20Core%20i7%203rd%20Gen%2E and add in a cheap GPU like Radeon 7770 fr about $20-25. And get a cheap 1080p monitor fr about $60-70. What do u guys think about my plan?

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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Choice of GPU is good and that's about the price for a slightly used 1080p monitor. Going for a prebuilt is a bad idea though, as they are difficult to upgrade. Their power supplies dont have the connector for the HD7770, you cant swap them out because the prebuilts use special connectors, and the motherboard quite often refuses to post with a new grsphics card. You're bidding on your luck to find a prebuilt without these problems.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Choice of GPU is good and that's about the price for a slightly used 1080p monitor. Going for a prebuilt is a bad idea though, as they are difficult to upgrade. Their power supplies dont have the connector for the HD7770, you cant swap them out because the prebuilts use special connectors, and the motherboard quite often refuses to post with a new grsphics card. You're bidding on your luck to find a prebuilt without these problems.

I HV a masterwatt 550 from my old rig....I think that should be enough to power this system.

 

Also....I m getting the optiplex 9010 ...the one with i7 3770 ND 8gb ram

 

Maybe I can cut those connectors from the stock PSU ND solder it to the new one...that can be done...I m an electronics engineer btw

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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9 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

I HV a masterwatt 550 from my old rig....I think that should be enough to power this system.

 

Also....I m getting the optiplex 9010 ...the one with i7 3770 ND 8gb ram

 

Maybe I can cut those connectors from the stock PSU ND solder it to the new one...that can be done...I m an electronics engineer btw

Then you should know how to solder wires and measure voltages to connect the wires right?

 

Make sure you dont get an SFF case though, those are too thin to hold a full height graphics card.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Then you should know how to solder wires and measure voltages to connect the wires right?

 

Make sure you dont get an SFF case though, those are too thin to hold a full height graphics card.

Yeah...in how to solder...

 

BTW...what's an sff case??

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then you should know how to solder wires and measure voltages to connect the wires right?

 

Make sure you dont get an SFF case though, those are too thin to hold a full height graphics card.

Planning to purchase this exact PC..

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9010-Desktop-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-i7-3770-8gb-PC3-12800-DVD-RW/382444776368?hash=item590b7c2bb0:g:Ty8AAOSwLlJa31P-

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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1 minute ago, SHROUD said:

Yeah...in how to solder...

 

BTW...what's an sff case??

A half height case. Search for Dell SFF and they will pop up.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

A half height case. Search for Dell SFF and they will pop up.

Is this an sff case??

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9010-Desktop-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-i7-3770-8gb-PC3-12800-DVD-RW/382444776368?hash=item590b7c2bb0:g:Ty8AAOSwLlJa31P-

Coz I was planning to get this PC...

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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3 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

Is this an sff case??

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9010-Desktop-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-i7-3770-8gb-PC3-12800-DVD-RW/382444776368?hash=item590b7c2bb0:g:Ty8AAOSwLlJa31P-

No it isnt. Just in case you changed you mind for something else...

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

No it isnt. Just in case you changed you mind for something else...

Also.....will this PC run CS go, GTA 5 ND Minecraft??

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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4 hours ago, SHROUD said:

My son turned 12 yesterday. ND he was asking me to get a new PC, as his old PC couldn't play the games he wanted to play. Currently, he has a Pentium 4 rig with a 720p display. Also, currently he plays CS 1.6 and Minecraft. He wants to play CS go but it runs very slow...like 10-15 fps. So, I want to build him a new system. My budget is around $350-450. I HV no problem in getting old parts...as I know the current GPU mining scenario. I am from Austin, TX . He wants to play newer games that other kids play. As he is currently limited in terms of games that he can actually play.

Along with the system I'll also need a decent 1080p monitor.

 

~Luke

For the games he is playing at the moment I would go with a ryzen 3 2200g build with integrated graphics since that should do the job..,giving him a great upgrade path when he gets further into pc gaming. you don't have to deal with selling parts , he could just add a gpu and cpu will be enough to support it.

ps: since ryzen 2200g is unlocked overclocking is always an option...

 

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3 hours ago, SHROUD said:

Planning to purchase this exact PC..

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9010-Desktop-3-4GHz-Quad-Core-i7-3770-8gb-PC3-12800-DVD-RW/382444776368?hash=item590b7c2bb0:g:Ty8AAOSwLlJa31P-

keep in mind that the rig doesn't have a HDD, so you'll need to get one along with an OS key.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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3 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

keep in mind that the rig doesn't have a HDD, so you'll need to get one along with an OS key.

I hv a spare crucial mx 500 that I CN give him.....also I m planning to buy an oem key from Reddit fr $5

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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UPDATE:

 

I purchased an Inspiron 9010 from Craigslist fr $200....It had an i7 3770 + 16gb ram + 120gb SSD + 500gb HDD...

Also....I purchased a Radeon 7770 fr $25

ND I swapped out the PSU....with the one that I had...it was a bit of trouble....

After turning on the system....I saw that windows 10 home was preinstalled  on that system....

 

CURRENT RIG-

CPU: Intel® Xeon® Processor X5690 OC 4.3GHz

CPU Cooler: Thermalright - Macho HR-02 Rev.A 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus - Rampage III Gene Micro ATX LGA1366 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Video Card 
Case: BitFenix - Phenom M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower - Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

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