Audio/music recording issue

[Wickedjesteri]

I need some help. Basically, im recording guitar. Signal chain is as follows. Marshall tube head, out to loadbox, xlr to presonus usb audio box, usb to pc. Daw is reaper using two notes wall of sound vst for guitar cab sim. Now. My issue is monitoring. Either i have ridiculously high latency between what i play and hear or i lower buffer time to get no latency but get crazy artifacts in the sound. I cant find a solution. 

[Anghammarad]

I'm not really an audio pro, but from what you describe I would hint to too many devices in the chain... each of those generates "lag"

[anothertom]

What is your output chain? You should be using the headphone output from the presonus this should have a zero latency option (or direct monitor).

[Wickedjesteri]

9 hours ago, anothertom said:

What is your output chain? You should be using the headphone output from the presonus this should have a zero latency option (or direct monitor).

Well sse. The problem with that is if i use the headphone out on the presonus i get the sound of the amp head BEFORE it gets put through the cab sim. Whoch idk if you've ever heard but that sounds horrible

[Wickedjesteri]

10 hours ago, Anghammarad said:

I'm not really an audio pro, but from what you describe I would hint to too many devices in the chain... each of those generates "lag"

Perhaps. But iv seen rigs usingthe exact same stuff on youtube. It works for them. I just cant ask them how theyre doing it

[anothertom]

49 minutes ago, Wickedjesteri said:

Well sse. The problem with that is if i use the headphone out on the presonus i get the sound of the amp head BEFORE it gets put through the cab sim. Whoch idk if you've ever heard but that sounds horrible

Well the latency is created by processing the audio through the computer. If you don't like the tone of the pre-vst sound, then change it. It doesn't have to sound perfect as you hear it, just that you can hear it to be able to play well.

[Wickedjesteri]

1 hour ago, anothertom said:

Well the latency is created by processing the audio through the computer. If you don't like the tone of the pre-vst sound, then change it. It doesn't have to sound perfect as you hear it, just that you can hear it to be able to play well.

No you have misunderstood. I like the tone of the vst. The headphone out gives me the sound of the amp head before it goes into the vst. So im literally hearing distorted electricity

[Wickedjesteri]

1 hour ago, anothertom said:

Well the latency is created by processing the audio through the computer. If you don't like the tone of the pre-vst sound, then change it. It doesn't have to sound perfect as you hear it, just that you can hear it to be able to play well.

Also, i understand why there is latency. Im trying to find a way to overcome it. Theres people on youtube using literally the same set up. I know it can be done. I just dont have the answer

[anothertom]

11 hours ago, Wickedjesteri said:

Also, i understand why there is latency. Im trying to find a way to overcome it. Theres people on youtube using literally the same set up. I know it can be done. I just dont have the answer

If anyone else is using exactly the same setup then either they can play without a monitor, or they can cope without hearing the vst sound.

 

11 hours ago, Wickedjesteri said:

No you have misunderstood. I like the tone of the vst. The headphone out gives me the sound of the amp head before it goes into the vst. So im literally hearing distorted electricity

That's all sound is, distorted sine waves. You don't need to hear the sound being recorded, just what you're playing. If you can't cope with that then you're going to have to go back to analogue processing.

[Wickedjesteri]

11 hours ago, anothertom said:

If anyone else is using exactly the same setup then either they can play without a monitor, or they can cope without hearing the vst sound.

 

That's all sound is, distorted sine waves. You don't need to hear the sound being recorded, just what you're playing. If you can't cope with that then you're going to have to go back to analogue processing.

I know what sound is. There's got to be a solution. If you don't know the answer, that's fine. But I mean telling me to just cope isn't helping me man. Nobody gets anywhere by coping.