pls help

[advilnoscope]

hi i am a first time builder and i was gonna get the ryzen 5 2400g but i might have needed a bios update so i was gonna go with the fx 8320e but someone told me it was old and so i want to go with the ryzen 5 1400 but i dont know if it also needs a bios update. does it?

[adamantiumxt]

The Ryzen 5 1400 shouldn't need a bios update.

The BIOS update isn't an issue though as if it's necessary, you can get a loaner CPU for free from AMD to run the system while you update

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

2 minutes ago, advilnoscope said:

hi i am a first time builder and i was gonna get the ryzen 5 2400g but i might have needed a bios update so i was gonna go with the fx 8320e but someone told me it was old and so i want to go with the ryzen 5 1400 but i dont know if it also needs a bios update. does it?

As far as I know, there aren't any BIOS updates that can make any AM3 platform board compatible with Ryzen.

[advilnoscope]

3 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

As far as I know, there aren't any BIOS updates that can make any AM3 platform board compatible with Ryzen.

i dont understand

[limegorilla]

AMD will send you out a free "doner" CPU to get your system running. Details found here: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-will-lend-you-an-older-processor-to-update-your-bios-to-support-a-ryzen-apu/

 

Also please make your topic title somewhat more descriptive please! This will allow other people with the same problem to find it in the future

[ZcanKal]

2 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

As far as I know, there aren't any BIOS updates that can make any AM3 platform board compatible with Ryzen.

Bios update?  What about the fact that the socket is completely different.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 minute ago, ZcanKal said:

Bios update?  What about the fact that the socket is completely different.

That too. 

[Himommies]

What mobo do you have

Some mobos don't need a CPU to update BIOS

[limegorilla]

Just now, advilnoscope said:

i dont understand

AMD have different platforms - much like Intel have different sockets. A FX 8320 is an old-gen AM3 chip. We are now on AM4 which has no cross compatibility support. The sockets do not match up - sorry! You will have to upgrade your motherboard too, and most OEM's will have the new BIOS software available so you will not need to update it. If you do, again referring to this: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-will-lend-you-an-older-processor-to-update-your-bios-to-support-a-ryzen-apu/

[advilnoscope]

3 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

That too. 

 

3 hours ago, ZcanKal said:

Bios update?  What about the fact that the socket is completely different.

 

3 hours ago, limegorilla said:

AMD will send you out a free "doner" CPU to get your system running. Details found here: https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-will-lend-you-an-older-processor-to-update-your-bios-to-support-a-ryzen-apu/

 

Also please make your topic title somewhat more descriptive please! This will allow other people with the same problem to find it in the future

i know they can send a cpu but i want something that will work out of the box

[ZcanKal]

1 minute ago, advilnoscope said:

 

 

i know they can send a cpu but i want something that will work out of the box

If you want that, then just get a 1400 and any motherboard from a reliable brand.  You may not need a BIOS update for the new 2400g, but in statistics like this, it's hard to beat 100%.

[limegorilla]

Just now, advilnoscope said:

 

 

i know they can send a cpu but i want something that will work out of the box

Then you will need a new Motherboard, compatible with Ryzen (I.E a AM4 Mobo)

If you get one that is generally recent, chances are you will get one with an updated BIOS. There, however, is no way to tell untill you take it out the box, unless the mobo was released after the CPU. ASUS motherboards (I belive) do offer CPU-less updating through EZUpdate (quoting @Himommies)

[advilnoscope]

bu

3 hours ago, limegorilla said:

Then you will need a new Motherboard, compatible with Ryzen (I.E a AM4 Mobo)

If you get one that is generally recent, chances are you will get one with an updated BIOS. There, however, is no way to tell untill you take it out the box, unless the mobo was released after the CPU. ASUS motherboards (I belive) do offer CPU-less updating through EZUpdate (quoting @Himommies)

is ther a cpu under 180 cad that will not need a bios update for sure

[limegorilla]

1 minute ago, advilnoscope said:

bu

is ther a cpu under 180 cad that will not need a bios update for sure

I have no idea on their pricing but any RYZEN released last year (R3, R5, R7) would not need an update. However, would you mind telling us what motherboard you are using? Is it AM3 or AM4?

[ZcanKal]

3 minutes ago, advilnoscope said:

bu

is ther a cpu under 180 cad that will not need a bios update for sure

Ryzen 5 1400, $140 on Newegg.com

[Himommies]

Just now, limegorilla said:

I have no idea on their pricing but any RYZEN released last year (R3, R5, R7) would not need an update. However, would you mind telling us what motherboard you are using? Is it AM3 or AM4?

Then you would need a Gpu though and if he's buying a 2400g he probaly dosen't have one

[advilnoscope]

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[ZcanKal]

Just now, Himommies said:

Then you would need a Gpu though and if he's buying a 2400g he probaly dosen't have one

RX 550 or GT 1030

[limegorilla]

Just now, Himommies said:

Then you would need a Gpu though and if he's buying a 2400g he probaly dosen't have one

True. @advilnoscope - chances are with the newness of Ryzen APU's is that you will need to update the BIOS. If you have or are going to buy an ASUS mobo they can be upgraded CPU-less. If not you'll need to contact AMD about a dummy CPU to update. It is free and reasonably hassle-free. Make sure your happy with the update procedure for your Mobo (and make sure there is a Ryzen APU update) before buying

[advilnoscope]

3 hours ago, limegorilla said:

True. @advilnoscope - chances are with the newness of Ryzen APU's is that you will need to update the BIOS. If you have or are going to buy an ASUS mobo they can be upgraded CPU-less. If not you'll need to contact AMD about a dummy CPU to update. It is free and reasonably hassle-free. Make sure your happy with the update procedure for your Mobo (and make sure there is a Ryzen APU update) before buying

asus mobo's can be upgraded cpu less

 

[ZcanKal]

If it's your first time, maybe having to deal with the BIOS flash isn't the best idea, maybe go with a Core i3 8100

[advilnoscope]

3 hours ago, ZcanKal said:

If it's your first time, maybe having to deal with the BIOS flash isn't the best idea, maybe go with a Core i3 8100

il try