Upgrade Time

[danrey84]

I'm due an upgrade and was going to go for a z370 and a 8700k. I game and stream and also use it for work ( design work ). Done a little reading on the net and seen alot of speculation that a z390 and a 8 core could be released by Intel at some point in 2018. I'm just wondering if they do release and 9700k ( if that's what it's called ) will it work on z370 abit like the 7700k was released on z270 but did work on z170 with a BIOS update. 

[RyzenDoctor]

2 minutes ago, danrey84 said:

I'm due an upgrade and was going to go for a z370 and a 8700k. I game and stream and also use it for work ( design work ). Done a little reading on the net and seen alot of speculation that a z390 and a 8 core could be released by Intel at some point in 2018. I'm just wondering if they do release and 9700k ( if that's what it's called ) will it work on z370 abit like the 7700k was released on z270 but did work on z170 with a BIOS update. 

Who knows... given that it’s being released close to coffee lake, I’d say maybe, but I won’t hold my breath with Intel. Just because CPUs share the same socket doesn’t mean they work on the same motherboard.

 

dont know if intel released anything about this 

[danrey84]

1 minute ago, RyzenDoctor said:

Who knows... given that it’s being released close to coffee lake, I’d say maybe, but I won’t hold my breath with Intel. Just because CPUs share the same socket doesn’t mean they work on the same motherboard.

 

dont know if intel released anything about this 

From what I've seen it's all heresay and nothing official I know z370 is kind of 1151v2 socket compared to the z170 and z270 sockets. That kind of led me to think is it worth maybe looking at x299 as I know at the moment they have various core models out.

[Jurrunio]

I wouldnt bother.. I mean, 8700k will still be a good CPU that can take on much newer and faster graphics cards in games than what we have today. This is different for design work, but you should get something from X299 if you are that serious.

[danrey84]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I wouldnt bother.. I mean, 8700k will still be a good CPU that can take on much newer and faster graphics cards in games than what we have today.

I know gaming wise I will be fine just as off late aka the last 6 months I've been bring work home more often and my system just isn't quick enough compared to the workstation we have at work which chew through design work.

[FloRolf]

Wait a little and get a new Ryzen 2700X. 

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, danrey84 said:

I know gaming wise I will be fine just as off late aka the last 6 months I've been bring work home more often and my system just isn't quick enough compared to the workstation we have at work which chew through design work.

Rumours say the next top dog in the Z platform from Intel will have 8 cores, so imagine a pair of 7700k's glued together. Honestly, if your work can use a lot of cores, might as well get ryzen or even threadripper instead. If it's single core only, then 8700k will do (though it doesnt seem so)

[danrey84]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Rumours say the next top dog in the Z platform from Intel will have 8 cores, so imagine a pair of 7700k's glued together. Honestly, if your work can use a lot of cores, might as well get ryzen or even threadripper instead. If it's single core only, then 8700k will do (though it doesnt seem so)

Well the work I do can use alot of cores as we use xeons and Asus workstation boards. My point is I'm trying to make is if they do release an 8 core on mainstream do you reckon it will be backwards compatible with z370 abit like the 7700k was a z270 release but did work on z170 boards with a BIOS update. 

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, danrey84 said:

Well the work I do can use alot of cores as we use xeons and Asus workstation boards. My point is I'm trying to make is if they do release an 8 core on mainstream do you reckon it will be backwards compatible with z370 abit like the 7700k was a z270 release but did work on z170 boards with a BIOS update. 

I think it will be incompatible (at least the 8 core CPU). Sure it's against the two-generations rule and Z390 is still a 300 series chipset, but it's Intel after all.

[RyzenDoctor]

52 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Wait a little and get a new Ryzen 2700X. 

I second that. Bang for the money is with AMD right now. The new Zen+ processors should be 8-15% faster, if not more, than the first Ryzens.

 

my current setup (see my signature) is blazing fast for what I do with it (heavy stats with a few thousand different entries being processed to provide ANOVA, regression, ... ).

 

unless you’re rendering the next 3D blockbuster I think AMD would provide you with a better upgrade path.

[TahoeDust]

x299

[CPUguy101]

1 hour ago, RyzenDoctor said:

I second that. Bang for the money is with AMD right now. The new Zen+ processors should be 8-15% faster, if not more, than the first Ryzens.

 

my current setup (see my signature) is blazing fast for what I do with it (heavy stats with a few thousand different entries being processed to provide ANOVA, regression, ... ).

 

unless you’re rendering the next 3D blockbuster I think AMD would provide you with a better upgrade path.

I agree for this user Ryzen would be a great choice as he can use all the cores. In like one month he can grab a 2000 series 8 core Ryzen chip probably OC it to 4.2Ghz and enjoy 8 cores and 16 threads for around 330$ or so. 

[RyzenDoctor]

2 minutes ago, SMBGUY said:

I agree for this user Ryzen would be a great choice as he can use all the cores. In like one month he can grab a 2000 series 8 core Ryzen chip probably OC it to 4.2Ghz and enjoy 8 cores and 16 threads for around 330$ or so. 

I do hope that Zen+ is stable though on launch. I hopped on the Zen-train 4 months after launch, and it still had some issues... (could've also been that my AIO was not seated properly). Heck Microcenter has big discounts on threadripper right now if you "need" 16 cores and 32 threads =). I wonder if my wife would notice a change in motherboard and processor...

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/5000031/AMD_Ryzen_Threadripper_1950X,_ASUS_ROG_X399_ZENITH_EXTREME_CPU-Motherboard_Bundle

 

[CPUguy101]

Just now, RyzenDoctor said:

I do hope that Zen+ is stable though on launch. I hopped on the Zen-train 4 months after launch, and it still had some issues... (could've also been that my AIO was not seated properly). Heck Microcenter has big discounts on threadripper right now if you "need" 16 cores and 32 threads =). I wonder if my wife would notice a change in motherboard and processor...

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/5000031/AMD_Ryzen_Threadripper_1950X,_ASUS_ROG_X399_ZENITH_EXTREME_CPU-Motherboard_Bundle

 

Agreed i think it will since it's basically just a refresh mine was basically stable after 1.0.0.4a but i had to use 2933mhz instead of 3200mhz on my memory since AGESA 1.0.0.6 my setup has been perfect and it seems to get better with each update. 

[RyzenDoctor]

6 minutes ago, SMBGUY said:

Agreed i think it will since it's basically just a refresh mine was basically stable after 1.0.0.4a but i had to use 2933mhz instead of 3200mhz on my memory since AGESA 1.0.0.6 my setup has been perfect and it seems to get better with each update. 

I ran into issues setting my ram to 3200, it's stable at 3000. I update my Prime X370 Pro every time a new Bios comes out.