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960 Evo Worth It?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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I am going to be reinstalling windows soon and don’t plan on doing it again if I don’t have to so I want to take the opportunity to put it on a better drive. I currently have it on the 850 Evo and it’s much better then my old WD green. But would it be worth it to get a 960 Evo for windows? Would I even notice a difference? If not would two 850s in raid for a boot drive be faster? Thanks 

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14 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I am going to be reinstalling windows soon and don’t plan on doing it again if I don’t have to so I want to take the opportunity to put it on a better drive. I currently have it on the 850 Evo and it’s much better then my old WD green. But would it be worth it to get a 960 Evo for windows? Would I even notice a difference? If not would two 850s in raid for a boot drive be faster? Thanks 

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-Samsung-960-Evo-NVMe-PCIe-M2-250GB/2977vsm200373

 

If your computer supports it, you can also consider a nvme drive which is faster than standard sata ssd. - correction wd green is a ssd whoops -

 

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-vs-WD-Green-240GB-2016/3949vsm204096

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misread nvme 960 Evo as 860 Evo sata ssd

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I get my first nvme drive aka 960evo next week so I can tell you then. 

However I'm pretty sure it'll be noticeable faster than SATA in some occasions. Plus you get rid of all the cable clutter. 

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R5 5600X - Cryorig C7 - Asus ROG B350-i - EVGA RTX2060KO - 16gb G.Skill Ripjaws V 3333mhz - Corsair SF450 - 500gb 960 EVO - LianLi TU100B


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R9 3900X - Peerless Assassin 120 SE - Asus Prime X570 Pro - Powercolor 7900XT - 32gb LPX 3200mhz - Corsair SF750 Platinum - 1TB WD SN850X - CoolerMaster NR200 White - Gigabyte M27Q-SA - Corsair K70 Rapidfire - Logitech MX518 Legendary - HyperXCloud Alpha wireless


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DS920+
2x4TB Ironwolf - 1x18TB Seagate Exos X20

 

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2 minutes ago, QuirkyRobot said:

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-vs-Samsung-850-Evo-250GB/3949vs2977

Reportedly 7% faster... I think 850 Evo raid 0 would provide a better performance increase.

 

If your computer supports it, you can also consider a nvme drive which is faster than standard sata ssd. - correction wd green is a ssd whoops -

 

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-860-Evo-250GB-vs-WD-Green-240GB-2016/3949vsm204096

I’m talking 960 evo as in the NVME one not the 860 evo

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4 minutes ago, QuirkyRobot said:

Yeah, misread. My bad lol. NVME definitely faster.

 

5 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I’m talking 960 evo as in the NVME one not the 860 evo

You won’t notice it outside of benchmarks unless you regularly transfer large files, I don’t notice a difference even between my old agility 3 and my 941 m.2

 

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You won’t notice it outside of benchmarks unless you regularly transfer large files, I don’t notice a difference even between my old agility 3 and my 941 m.2

Would higher 4K transfer performance and smaller files be more noticeable?

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7 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

 

You won’t notice it outside of benchmarks unless you regularly transfer large files, I don’t notice a difference even between my old agility 3 and my 941 m.2

Also any gaming differences?

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You won’t notice it outside of benchmarks unless you regularly transfer large files, I don’t notice a difference even between my old agility 3 and my 941 m.2

I do notice when I load in games. I always load a couple seconds faster than my friend who is running a 850 Evo. But if the few seconds are worth it depends on the person.

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6 minutes ago, QuirkyRobot said:

I do notice when I load in games. I always load a couple seconds faster than my friend who is running a 850 Evo. But if the few seconds are worth it depends on the person.

What about using it as a cache drive for Premiere or something like that?

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When setting up a pair of regular SSD, not NVME, in a raid 0 setup you won't see the vast improvement like might think when you compare the Raid 0 to a single SSD.  Of course it will double your volume as it normally would, and should, but you won't notice the vast improvement in speed you might have hoped for.  I believe, and I am probably wrong as someone will surely point out, the reason for this is because electricity travels only so fast and since SSD's are already designed and manufactured for them to operate as fast as possible, that is the reason for not seeing the vast improvement that was hoped for.

 

The speed of electricity in a 12-gauge copper wire is 299,792,458 meters per second x 0.951 or 285,102,627 meters per second. This is about 280,000,000 meters per second which is not very much different from the speed of electromagnetic waves (light) in a vacuum.

 

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Geez, I love that cut and paste.

 

 

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8 hours ago, kb5zue said:

When setting up a pair of regular SSD, not NVME, in a raid 0 setup you won't see the vast improvement like might think when you compare the Raid 0 to a single SSD.  Of course it will double your volume as it normally would, and should, but you won't notice the vast improvement in speed you might have hoped for.  I believe, and I am probably wrong as someone will surely point out, the reason for this is because electricity travels only so fast and since SSD's are already designed and manufactured for them to operate as fast as possible, that is the reason for not seeing the vast improvement that was hoped for.

 

The speed of electricity in a 12-gauge copper wire is 299,792,458 meters per second x 0.951 or 285,102,627 meters per second. This is about 280,000,000 meters per second which is not very much different from the speed of electromagnetic waves (light) in a vacuum.

 

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Geez, I love that cut and paste.

 

 

Raid 0 wouldn’t double the storage size it splits the work to both drives which means it can achieve faster speeds. You don’t see 2X the performance across the board but still an improvement 

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