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Hello all, after a chat with some people I put together this build using some parts I have and most I do not, I have about £600 in all but the Gpu and PSU / monitor is paid for. 

 

Would appreciate some feed back / recommended builds for my price point. 

 

Currently own -

Windows 10

 

GTX Nvidia 960 

 

450GB SSD. 

 

Corsair Cx750M (750W)

 

Need to purchase - 

Case - CPU - Motherboard - DDR4 Ram

 

Case to be decided.

 

Intel Core i5 8400 Coffee Lake Desktop CPU/Processor BOX

 

Gigabyte Intel Z370 HD3 Coffee Lake ATX Motherboard

 

2x     

8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black, PC4-17000 (2133), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 13-15-15-28, XMP 2.0, 1.2V

 

This is the build I'm thinking, any feed back? (Apart from graphics card, will update later.)

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which psu do you have?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Go for a Ryzen system with that budget. Anything from a Ryzen 1600 or above, overclocked, with high speed, overclocked RAM, will perform about as well in gaming as an 8400, in some games better, is cheaper and gives you much more of an upgrade path than current Intel Coffee Lake options. Or wait a few weeks for the new Ryzen CPU's, which give you more choice and should drive down the price of current Ryzen CPU's even more.

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10 minutes ago, Battlewrath said:

Corsair cx750m PSU

i'm not sure how a CX750M has an 80+ gold rating or 550w, but it'll be fine.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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16 minutes ago, johnukguy said:

Go for a Ryzen system with that budget. Anything from a Ryzen 1600 or above, overclocked, with high speed, overclocked RAM, will perform about as well in gaming as an 8400, in some games better, is cheaper and gives you much more of an upgrade path than current Intel Coffee Lake options. Or wait a few weeks for the new Ryzen CPU's, which give you more choice and should drive down the price of current Ryzen CPU's even more.

I've never dabbled with over clocking and know if I did, I'd have to be a lot more aware of my thermals, is it not asking for more to go wrong? 

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That indeed used to be a factor but most newer CPU's and motherboards are now specifically designed to overclock. The worst that generally happens, unless someone goes completely overboard, is that the built in safety features on the CPU and motherboard will kick in and shut down, or not boot the system and you just rested the CMOS and try a little less voltage or frequency. You can also take it to whatever level you want. If you want to start with just a bump or two in frequency and a modest overclock, then it's a matter of a couple of clicks in many cases and you're good to go. If you want to go further, there are some good tutorials online that take you through how to overclock safely, in more depth. If you take it one step at a time and use a bit of common sense, you can get quite a big performance boost out of many CPU's for very little effort. Don't underestimate yourself. If you have enough sense to ask others about such things, as you are doing here, you have what it takes to get great results from any system that you build.

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what sad are you going to buy?

sata or m.2?

if you are only gonna game then sata is ok

if you use it for productivity then I recommend m.2

I bought the Samsung 960 evo and it made a huge difference over hdd

compared to sata its not that big of a difference but if you want the absolute fastest I recommend you get and m.2

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oh , so you already have it

if you gonna get 60 then I recommend the new optane 800p

its expensive gb/$ but if you only gonna get 60 it should be enough

the low latency looks like it will be better perf but I haven't tried it myself so idk

linus did a video about it maybe you should watch it

 

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46 minutes ago, johnukguy said:

Go for a Ryzen system with that budget. Anything from a Ryzen 1600 or above, overclocked, with high speed, overclocked RAM, will perform about as well in gaming as an 8400, in some games better, is cheaper and gives you much more of an upgrade path than current Intel Coffee Lake options. Or wait a few weeks for the new Ryzen CPU's, which give you more choice and should drive down the price of current Ryzen CPU's even more.

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59 minutes ago, Battlewrath said:

Frequently Bought Together

You can get the R5 1600 from Overclockers UK for £149.99 + delivery. I would also go for the Cryorig H7 over the Hyper 212 if you want an aftermarket cooler. 

 

cpu - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-six-core-1600-3.60ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-39z-am.html

cooler - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-h7-single-tower-heatsink-with-120mm-fan-hs-008-cy.html

AM4 bracket - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cryorig-am4-bracket-for-h7-cooler-type-b-hs-00u-cy.html

 

I would also get the B350-F board over that one. Amazon have it for £94.99

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B072C6VPZJ/?tag=pcp0f-21

 

 

That should all work out at about £292 or thereabouts with delivery.

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Use uk.pcpartpicker.com

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£206.39 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£89.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £504.91
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80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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On 29/03/2018 at 1:16 AM, brob said:

Use uk.pcpartpicker.com

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£206.39 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£89.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £504.91
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Component   Selection Price  
CPU 320f71912f65606aa2075161dc798c3d.256p.jpg £128.99 Buy
CPU Cooler 83b8a54ab568a7939af313a1b94b2416.256p.jpg £34.99 Buy
    AM4 CPU Co oler adapt er £2.99  
Motherboard 51W3ej4k%2BkL.jpg £92.79 Buy
Memory ef1c9d46308283f227a0ba51e4179ff1.256p.jpg £79.97 Buy
Storage 41P3fWmf-eL.jpg £0.00  
Video Card ae5515728b679ee6fd28bd3a36db8d49.256p.jpg £0.00  
Case d4745ae04fec5a8861f24130cccc9eda.256p.jpg £55.46 Buy
Power Supply 23a8f923c23d6de30026d889136bf175.256p.jpg £0.00  
Operating System   £0.00  

Total:

 

 

 

This is the build I'm considering, any feed back? Also how do I get the pure text WITH hyperlink read out like you've done in your post?

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On 29/03/2018 at 1:16 AM, brob said:

Use uk.pcpartpicker.com

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£206.39 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£89.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£73.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair - 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Total: £504.91
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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/krjsZR

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/krjsZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/krjsZR/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£128.99 @ Amazon UK) 
 

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
 

Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£92.79 @ Alza) 
 

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£79.97 @ Amazon UK) 
 

Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
 

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Other: AM4 CPU Cooler adapter (£2.99)
 

Total: £395.19
 

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 00:49 BST+0100

 

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29 minutes ago, Battlewrath said:

,,,

This is the build I'm considering, any feed back? Also how do I get the pure text WITH hyperlink read out like you've done in your post?

 

In pcpartpicker build list, click the [bb] button middle of the toolbar above the list. Copy & paste the contents of the window that pops up.

 

27 minutes ago, Battlewrath said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/krjsZR

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/krjsZR
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/krjsZR/by_merchant/

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£128.99 @ Amazon UK) 
 

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
 

Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£92.79 @ Alza) 
 

Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£79.97 @ Amazon UK) 
 

Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
 

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
 

Other: AM4 CPU Cooler adapter (£2.99)
 

Total: £395.19
 

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 00:49 BST+0100

 

 

The Wraith cooler that comes with the cpu is quite sufficient.

 

A dual channel memory kit, e.g. 2x4GB, offers slightly better performance. Ryzen cpu do better with faster memory.

 

If the budget is £600 why not get a more powerful cpu?

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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17 minutes ago, brob said:

In pcpartpicker build list, click the [bb] button middle of the toolbar above the list. Copy & paste the contents of the window that pops up.

 

 

The Wraith cooler that comes with the cpu is quite sufficient.

 

A dual channel memory kit, e.g. 2x4GB, offers slightly better performance. Ryzen cpu do better with faster memory.

 

If the budget is £600 why not get a more powerful cpu?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVkRJ8

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVkRJ8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVkRJ8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£128.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£98.48 @ BT Shop) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£94.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Other: AM4 CPU Cooler adapter (£2.99)
Total: £415.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 01:46 BST+0100

After further revision with someone, this is the build I've kind of settled on, though welcome feedback! Seems a near completely different build than I started with

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21 minutes ago, brob said:

In pcpartpicker build list, click the [bb] button middle of the toolbar above the list. Copy & paste the contents of the window that pops up.

 

 

The Wraith cooler that comes with the cpu is quite sufficient.

 

A dual channel memory kit, e.g. 2x4GB, offers slightly better performance. Ryzen cpu do better with faster memory.

 

If the budget is £600 why not get a more powerful cpu?

Going for cheaper the better so long as it is an upgrade, moved to the RAM you suggested, but moved away from a Micro ATX build, - will the stock H7 cooler be enough for potential OCing?

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Going for cheaper the better so long as it is an upgrade, moved to the RAM you suggested, but moved away from a Micro ATX build, - will the stock H7 cooler be enough for potential OCing?

Yes on the cooler. The H7 is rated for 140W TDP and the cpu at stock is 65W TDP. 

 

If you are willing to spend a little more you might consider the Ryzen 5 1600 or 1600X. They have two additional multithreaded cores.

 

Rest of build looks ok.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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9 minutes ago, Battlewrath said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVkRJ8

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVkRJ8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/FVkRJ8/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£128.99 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£98.48 @ BT Shop) 

get a cheaper board or use the stock cooler and get a 1600 instead, only a small price increase for 2 more cores.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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2 minutes ago, brob said:

Yes on the cooler. The H7 is rated for 140W TDP and the cpu at stock is 65W TDP. 

 

If you are willing to spend a little more you might consider the Ryzen 5 1600 or 1600X. They have two additional multithreaded cores.

 

Rest of build looks ok.

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Battlewrath/saved/sdBBP6

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yWxkdX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yWxkdX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£158.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£98.48 @ BT Shop) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£94.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra II 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.46 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (Purchased For £0.00) 
Other: AM4 CPU Cooler adapter (£2.99)
Total: £409.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-01 02:01 BST+0100


I've cut off the FAN but made the CPU a 1600X, when I come up OC to (4.5?) I'll look into a non-stock cooler, does this sound like a good approach?

 

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