What should I do?

[Dave8798]

Basically I want to upgrade my old build which is core i3 2120 (sandy bridge), motherboard is some h61 I guess.. 

Now the part im confuse is which motherboard should I buy? And which processor should I buy? I have ryzen 3 2200G and ryzen 5 2400G in my mind. My budget is tight so I have to adjust. I'll be doing multitasking and content creating work more than gaming in this pc. So should I go for R3 2200 and an b350 motherboard cuz I dont know I may do overlooking.. Still I'm not sure.. Or should I go R5 2400G with an A320 motherboard which are not overclockable.. I'll be using 8gb ddr4 ram for now I'll upgrade it later on along with my gpu which is fairly a decent gpu gtx 1050. I'm really confuse and dont know which way to go as I told earlier I need to adjust it somehow.. Cuz going with an b350 board with R5 will be tough for me right now. I may do over clocking if needed.. And what will be my performance if I do the over clocking with R3 2200G with b350m mobo? Will it give me a satisfactory result which is near to R5 2400G stock performance?

 

Thnx in advance.

[dizmo]

I'd really look at getting dual channel and high speed RAM. Both will have a substantial impact on Ryzen.

If you're not going to overclock with Ryzen, you're really not going to get the most out of the chip. I'd most definitely overclock, and go with the B350 board. Otherwise I'd almost just save for an Intel system. Do you have the GPU now? If so, just wait for the refreshed Ryzen chips to come out. There's no need for you to buy one with an integrated GPU.

[Dave8798]

I do have a gpu. So you are telling I should go for b350 mobo with R3?

[KarathKasun]

5 hours ago, Dave8798 said:

Basically I want to upgrade my old build which is core i3 2120 (sandy bridge), motherboard is some h61 I guess.. 

Now the part im confuse is which motherboard should I buy? And which processor should I buy? I have ryzen 3 2200G and ryzen 5 2400G in my mind. My budget is tight so I have to adjust. I'll be doing multitasking and content creating work more than gaming in this pc. So should I go for R3 2200 and an b350 motherboard cuz I dont know I may do overlooking.. Still I'm not sure.. Or should I go R5 2400G with an A320 motherboard which are not overclockable.. I'll be using 8gb ddr4 ram for now I'll upgrade it later on along with my gpu which is fairly a decent gpu gtx 1050. I'm really confuse and dont know which way to go as I told earlier I need to adjust it somehow.. Cuz going with an b350 board with R5 will be tough for me right now. I may do over clocking if needed.. And what will be my performance if I do the over clocking with R3 2200G with b350m mobo? Will it give me a satisfactory result which is near to R5 2400G stock performance?

 

Thnx in advance.

If you have a GPU slap a E3-1240 in the board you have.  They run around ~$75 on e-bay (need to look for the models without v1/2/3/4 suffixes).

Performance is between R3-2200G and R5-2500G, though its much closer to the 2400G.

Also, 16gb of DDR3 can be had for $80.  Much cheaper than what DDR4 is selling for currently.

GPU wise, you need to be at GTX 750 Ti/GT 1030 level to match the 2400G.

 

That would be my recommendation for perf/$.

 

If going with a new build, go 2400G.  You will appreciate not having to swap the CPU out when you go to a much more capable GPU down the road.

[Dave8798]

Thnx for the reply.. Bt if I use 2400G I can't buy an overclockable motherboard with it. As I said I have a tight budget. So like should I go for the 2400G with a normal a320 motherboard ?

[KarathKasun]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144091&ignorebbr=1

 

If you can't make the extra ~$20 stretch, wait till you can.

[asand1]

What is your budget. Have you considered swapping an i7 2600 in and getting more DDR3 RAM?

[KarathKasun]

1 minute ago, asand1 said:

What is your budget. Have you considered swapping an i7 2600 in and getting more DDR3 RAM?

E3 Xeons tend to be cheaper and are the same thing minus the integrated graphics.

[asand1]

4 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

E3 Xeons tend to be cheaper and are the same thing minus the integrated graphics.

Well there you go, even better. 4 cores and 8 threads @3.4Ghz for a fraction of the cost of the R5 2400G and nearly the same IPC. Used CPU and max out the RAM with cheaper used DDR3. You wont have the latest bells and whistles, but you have raw performance at a fraction of the cost and lets not forget reduce, reuse, recycle.

[Dave8798]

Thnx. But I dont want to go with an old build. Plus in my country those chips are being sold in a lot of amount and I dont want to buy used parts because tbb its not that save to buy these parts and trust me scamming is common. So I wanna go for a new build and latest one. 

[Dave8798]

13 minutes ago, asand1 said:

What is your budget. Have you considered swapping an i7 2600 in and getting more DDR3 RAM?

My budget is rs. 25000 ($384.50) bt all the parts are here are way more costly.

[asand1]

What Country?

[KarathKasun]

Ive bought 3-4 of them with no issues, two came out of China even.  One was listed as an ES, so I got it for 1/2 price.  It turned out to be an ES with the same silicon version as retail products and works perfectly.

 

I understand not wanting to buy used parts, but even if you had to buy two you still come out ahead performance and price wise.

 

Also, what country/area?

[asand1]

5 minutes ago, Dave8798 said:

Thnx. But I dont want to go with an old build. Plus in my country those chips are being sold in a lot of amount and I dont want to buy used parts because tbb its not that save to buy these parts and trust me scamming is common. So I wanna go for a new build and latest one. 

Well here in the states I have bought 6 used CPUs on ebay with no problems. If you were able to go used you could upgrade your current PC very well and save money for a future build or food, or rent.

[asand1]

3 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Ive bought 3-4 of them with no issues, two came out of China even.  One was listed as an ES, so I got it for 1/2 price.  It turned out to be an ES with the same silicon version as retail products and works perfectly.

 

I understand not wanting to buy used parts, but even if you had to buy two you still come out ahead performance and price wise.

How do these Xeons run in OEM boards? Any problems with BIOS support?

[KarathKasun]

6 minutes ago, asand1 said:

How do these Xeons run in OEM boards? Any problems with BIOS support?

I bought some cheap H61 boards(ASUS and MSI I believe).  Most I had to do was update a BIOS.

 

If you are really tight on cash you can get an  E3-1220 for $50 US on AliExpress.

i5-2400's are in the $50 US range as well.

E3-1230/1240 (3.2/3.3 ghz) are ~$100 US on the same site.

E3-1280 (3.5ghz higher TDP, not sure if MB can handle) is ~$140.

[asand1]

@KarathKasun

I already upgraded my Optiplex 790 to an i7 2600, I just wondered about running a Xeon in an OEM Dell or Lenovo or something similar.

[KarathKasun]

13 minutes ago, asand1 said:

@KarathKasun

I already upgraded my Optiplex 790 to an i7 2600, I just wondered about running a Xeon in an OEM Dell or Lenovo or something similar.

As long as its not a "Home" system, it should be fine.  Many of the cheap home PC's I cant find a proper CPU compatibility list for.  In theory yes, they should work. *most do not have integrated graphics though*

[Dave8798]

1 hour ago, asand1 said:

What Country?

India.

[Dave8798]

1 hour ago, asand1 said:

Well here in the states I have bought 6 used CPUs on ebay with no problems. If you were able to go used you could upgrade your current PC very well and save money for a future build or food, or rent.

I'll dig into ebay or some other sites. 

[KarathKasun]

AliExpress looks to have a page for India.

 

One thing to keep in mind with ebay or aliexpress, never communicate with a seller outside of ebay/aliexpress.  Always use the inbuilt messaging and reporting features.

[Dave8798]

Ohkay... I'll look into it