New daily pc

[pinkyandthebrain]

So I'm looking to build a pc for my parents for video watching, surfing web, emails etc, NOT for gaming. A ssd is a must. 4 core 4 thread is a must. Anyone have any suggestions on a complete build? Build price is to be around $500 - $700 CDN for new pc without windows.

[aaronhare]

Here lemme come up with one here.

[kelvinhall05]

Older i5 (6th or 7th gen) with 8GBs of RAM, and the largest SSD you can find. I'd personally go with an ITX system, but that's just me.

[aaronhare]

Went $26 over budget but here is what I came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Trappingguy/saved/g3kBP6

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YkhHNQ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YkhHNQ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($147.05 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $651.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-20 19:58 EDT-0400

[r2724r16]

8 minutes ago, AaronsDev said:

Went $26 over budget but here is what I came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Trappingguy/saved/g3kBP6

I think you should buy a CPU with at least 4 cores (it's 2018) and you don't need a dedicated GPU for web browsing, integrated graphics is plenty. 

Here's the part list I came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnZYr6

[Streetguru]

24 minutes ago, thebrain said:

So I'm looking to build a pc for my parents for video watching, surfing web, emails etc, NOT for gaming. A ssd is a must. 4 core 4 thread is a must. Anyone have any suggestions on a complete build? Build price is to be around $500 - $700 CDN for new pc without windows.

Just buy literally any used business machine, or laptop, or an android tablet.

[pinkyandthebrain]

59 minutes ago, Rasbir Singh said:

I think you should buy a CPU with at least 4 cores (it's 2018) and you don't need a dedicated GPU for web browsing, integrated graphics is plenty. 

Here's the part list I came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnZYr6

I think I will go with your build. Anyone want any suggestions on this?

 

edit: btw, your pc costs 701.55 cdn. you forgot to switch to canada

[Streetguru]

1 hour ago, Rasbir Singh said:

I think you should buy a CPU with at least 4 cores (it's 2018) and you don't need a dedicated GPU for web browsing, integrated graphics is plenty. 

Here's the part list I came up with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnZYr6

 

4 minutes ago, thebrain said:

I think I will go with your build. Anyone want any suggestions on this?

Wrong country though

 

Seriously just buy a used business machine with an i5 on the cheap, or get a laptop, or get an android tablet.

[pinkyandthebrain]

12 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

 

Wrong country though

 

Seriously just buy a used business machine with an i5 on the cheap, or get a laptop, or get an android tablet.

I'm not looking for a laptop or tablet

 

edit: anyone got suggestions for better looking ram?  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CnZYr6  this ram looks terrible.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, thebrain said:

I'm not looking for a laptop or tablet

Then go for a used business machine, i5 or i7, should run $200-300 CAD, there's a ton of them, just add an SSD or Hybrid Hard Drive, should work fine.
https://www.amazon.ca/HP-Refurbished-Quad-Core-DisplayPort-Professional/dp/B06Y4GD6XN/ref=sr_1_22?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1521594651&sr=1-22&keywords=i7+8GB

Otherwise if you want AM4 in the end there ya go, they can totally get into gaming with that.

PCPartPicker part list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/F9G8KB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/F9G8KB/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: ADATA - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($105.99 @ PC-Canada)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 500GB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($64.53 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($26.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $491.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-20 21:18 EDT-0400

 

[pinkyandthebrain]

I would like an intel build, the refurbished bussiness computer has an aged cpu so it won't last for the long run. also, is 8 gb okay or should I go for 16 gb?

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, thebrain said:

I would like an intel build

...why? Ryzen is more than fine, and has double the iGPU performance if it's ever needed.

And the used business machine will work fine, CPUs don't advance very fast anymore, and doing web browsing/video playback doesn't take much of anything.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($84.31 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Transcend - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($26.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.95 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $456.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-20 21:41 EDT-0400

[pinkyandthebrain]

22 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.00 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($84.31 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Transcend - 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($87.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Case: Rosewill - FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($26.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($58.95 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $456.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-20 21:41 EDT-0400

Think I might go with this.

[DragonTamer1]

You should consider a used 2500K system or something similar and just add an SSD and overclock the CPU. It would be more than adequate for your purpose.

 

Otherwise go for something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($86.11 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($81.39 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $500.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-21 22:17 EDT-0400

 

[pinkyandthebrain]

21 hours ago, DragonTamer1 said:

You should consider a used 2500K system or something similar and just add an SSD and overclock the CPU. It would be more than adequate for your purpose.

 

Otherwise go for something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($86.11 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($81.39 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $500.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-21 22:17 EDT-0400

 

I'm not going to overclock because idk how.

 

I'm in between your build and

herman mcpootis

[DragonTamer1]

2 minutes ago, thebrain said:

I'm not going to overclock because idk how.

 

I'm in between your build and

herman mcpootis

Either system would work very well for what you are looking for.

 

The one thing to note with mine is that I believe the case is on sale right now so it may go up in price, it can be swapped out for a different case if needed.

[Herman Mcpootis]

22 hours ago, DragonTamer1 said:

 

CPU: Intel - Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($177.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B250 PC MATE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($86.11 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)

the m12ii is old as dirt and missing protections, get a corsair CX/coolermaster masterwatt instead. don't get a skylake CPU in 2018, there's better options.

[pinkyandthebrain]

herman mcpootis your part list says

Warning: These parts have potential issues/incompatibilities. (See details.

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

10 minutes ago, thebrain said:

herman mcpootis your part list says

Warning: These parts have potential issues/incompatibilities. (See details.

 

it just means some older boards might not be updated for the 2200G yet, just order a boot kit from AMD and do the Bios flashing yourself if that's the case.

[DragonTamer1]

1 hour ago, herman mcpootis said:

the m12ii is old as dirt and missing protections, get a corsair CX/coolermaster masterwatt instead. don't get a skylake CPU in 2018, there's better options.

The M12 would do just fine for a low power build like this. There should not be any kind of load that would warrant the use of those protections. A CX would be better as long as the OP gets the 2017 version and not one of the older ones by mistake.

 

I don't see how skylake isn't a good option for this build. This is basically light office work and a Pentium or i3 could do the job. I chose skylake because of the cheaper motherboard than z370 and better stock IPC than the Ryzen in adition to being a bit of an older CPU they are cheaper (could even snag a used one off of ebay for less than that). Ryzen has the GPU advantage but for just streaming videos a powerful GPU shouldn't be needed. Granted, my motherboard is expensive, would be better off with this one.

[pinkyandthebrain]

8 minutes ago, DragonTamer1 said:

The M12 would do just fine for a low power build like this. There should not be any kind of load that would warrant the use of those protections. A CX would be better as long as the OP gets the 2017 version and not one of the older ones by mistake.

 

I don't see how skylake isn't a good option for this build. This is basically light office work and a Pentium or i3 could do the job. I chose skylake because of the cheaper motherboard than z370 and better stock IPC than the Ryzen in adition to being a bit of an older CPU they are cheaper (could even snag a used one off of ebay for less than that). Ryzen has the GPU advantage but for just streaming videos a powerful GPU shouldn't be needed. Granted, my motherboard is expensive, would be better off with this one.

which ones are the 2017 version?

[DragonTamer1]

1 minute ago, thebrain said:

which ones are the 2017 version?

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Q7L7YJ,FdRFf7,3F2rxr,RGCrxr/

 

If my memory serves the older ones had reliability issues with the primary filter caps popping when it got hot.

[Herman Mcpootis]

29 minutes ago, thebrain said:

which ones are the 2017 version?

the CX450,550 and 650w variants are all fine.