New PC, really want xeon CPU over core i7

[Andylawson]

Hey All ,

 

Am looking at building a new PC this year.

i currently have

Xeon e3 1246 & MSI gaming 7 MB for home server, this absolutely destroys my i7 6700 dell XPS 8900 used as gaming desktop, even though its like 4 years old.

My next build "Must" be xeon based.

my question is are these compatible ?

 

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39461/intel-xeon-e3-1230-v6

&

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37614/msi-b250m-bazooka-motherboard

 

Will they work together, i cannot find a yes or no.

The motherboard must be MSI brand, & CPU Must be a Xeon

I will be hopefully putting it in this https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39596/cougar-conquer-aluminium-atx-case

 

[NoxiousOdor]

In most cases, if the xeon is the same socket then it will fit, if not no. Also welcome to the Xeon club! Xeons are awesome

[Herman Mcpootis]

skylake and kabylake xeons won't work with regular consumer motherboards, you'll need to get a c23x board. just get a regular i7/5/ryzen 5 instead.

[Imglidinhere]

31 minutes ago, Andylawson said:

Hey All ,

 

Am looking at building a new PC this year.

i currently have

Xeon e3 1246 & MSI gaming 7 MB for home server, this absolutely destroys my i7 6700 dell XPS 8900 used as gaming desktop, even though its like 4 years old.

My next build "Must" be xeon based.

my question is are these compatible ?

 

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39461/intel-xeon-e3-1230-v6

&

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37614/msi-b250m-bazooka-motherboard

 

Will they work together, i cannot find a yes or no.

The motherboard must be MSI brand, & CPU Must be a Xeon

I will be hopefully putting it in this https://www.pccasegear.com/products/39596/cougar-conquer-aluminium-atx-case

 

The Xeon is the SAME CHIP AS THE i7!

 

Literally, there is no radical gains to be had over the consumer branded processors. You will gain ZERO performance boosts from an i7 to a Xeon. Fuck... even LINUS did a video on this exact subject a couple years ago.

[Jurrunio]

E3 1246 wont 'destroy' a 6700 build. The performance difference must be because of another part in the system. It's just an i7 of the same generation with adjusted clock speed.

 

Xeon E3 v4 and after will need a C chipset mobo, which is rare and expensive.

 

MSI motherboards arent the best either, but you can go for those if you really like them.

[Andylawson]

The Xeon According to benchmarks is performing better.

 

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Andylawson said:

"this absolutely destroys my i7 6700"

It is only performing a few percent better. 621 points vs 571 points in multicore, i wouldnt call that "ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING".

[Damascus]

17 minutes ago, Andylawson said:

The Xeon According to benchmarks is performing better

You have a terrrrible chip on that i7.  It's performing way under expectations for the chip, DELL stiffed you with that cpu.

[Jurrunio]

34 minutes ago, Andylawson said:

The Xeon According to benchmarks is performing better.

 

userbenchmark isnt that easy to compare. Try cinebench r15

 

14 minutes ago, Damascus said:

You have a terrrrible chip on that i7.  It's performing way under expectations for the chip, DELL stiffed you with that cpu.

That i7 is only 100-200MHz slower, while using a newer architecture (though IPC improvement is small). How can that performance be worse?

[Andylawson]

Will the I7 work OK in a different brand MB ?

will i gain any performance ?

 

 

[Damascus]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That i7 is only 100-200MHz slower, while using a newer architecture (though IPC improvement is small). How can that performance be worse?

Silicon lottery applies to everything a chip can do, performance variance on the same cpu is minimal on retail but there is speculation that Apple, DELL and other tier one oems buy bottom of the barrel cpus at a steep discount.

[Damascus]

5 minutes ago, Andylawson said:

Will the I7 work OK in a different brand MB ?

will i gain any performance ?

Not unless you get one that can overclock.

[Andylawson]

5 minutes ago, Andylawson said:

Will the I7 work OK in a different brand MB ?

will i gain any performance ?

 

 

Will get the same motherboard, looks like it supports 6th gen as well, just with 2133 ram max

[Imglidinhere]

1 minute ago, Andylawson said:

Will get the same motherboard, looks like it supports 6th gen as well, just with 2133 ram max

The reason it's performing worse than the Xeon is because you're running a fucking stock cooler with it. Don't use websites to prove your point either, run your own tests and compare to what a typical benchmark shows for another chip. Running your system entirely off of Solid States will better improve your system than upgrading to yet another, marginally higher clocked processor. I'm still betting that you're throttling super hard after 4-5 years from no repaste on top of a stock cooler desperately in need of replacement.

 

Hell, on the point of the SSDs, I've upgraded Thuban Phenom II chip-based PCs with PCI-e SSDs and the people I upgraded honestly thought I'd built them a new PC. Your storage speeds affect more than your processors for fluidity and consistency. Why do you think people constantly tell you to install your OS on an SSD? It's for that fact alone. A fast PC doesn't require a beast CPU. It requires a well-balanced, optimized environment. 

[Andylawson]

23 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

The reason it's performing worse than the Xeon is because you're running a fucking stock cooler with it. Don't use websites to prove your point either, run your own tests and compare to what a typical benchmark shows for another chip. Running your system entirely off of Solid States will better improve your system than upgrading to yet another, marginally higher clocked processor. I'm still betting that you're throttling super hard after 4-5 years from no repaste on top of a stock cooler desperately in need of replacement.

 

Hell, on the point of the SSDs, I've upgraded Thuban Phenom II chip-based PCs with PCI-e SSDs and the people I upgraded honestly thought I'd built them a new PC. Your storage speeds affect more than your processors for fluidity and consistency. Why do you think people constantly tell you to install your OS on an SSD? It's for that fact alone. A fast PC doesn't require a beast CPU. It requires a well-balanced, optimized environment. 

Dude layoff the energy drinks!