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Windows 10 pro for workstations

johnkristian
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Thanks for sharing this.

 

But why windows? Why do we need a Windows Server Starter edition?

Want to know which mobo to get?

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Choose whatever you need. Any more, you're wasting your money. Any less, and you don't get the features you need.

 

Only you know what you need to do with your computer, so nobody's really qualified to answer this question except for you.

 

chEcK iNsidE sPoilEr fOr a tREat!

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You can use windows server, but you need to install services for desktop experience etc.


And from build 1709, it seems that the traditional GUI is completely removed? I haven't tested it out yet, but I saw that it installed a core edition install without any option to choose windows with a gui. There was some mention of another way to manage windows server from a gui, with a codename or something, but I don't remember what it was. I'll check it out later.

 

I'm going to test this on my workstation, especially because of SMB direct. But I can't find it on MSDN yet.
 

 

It also seems that Windows 10 for worstation will get a new power scheme, "ultimate performance":

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/02/14/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17101-fast-build-17604-skip-ahead/#14qeLy3wK4gJGc1A.97

 

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If they did end up doing it, I think it would be better to have it done after the next major update to windows as the insider version currently has an "Ultimate performance" mode. Though there isn't much to say about it specifically and it might just be better to do an updated TQ on all of the different versions. (Unless the last one was recent)

Edit: Well you ninja'd me :P

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8 minutes ago, bob51zhang said:

Thanks for sharing this.

 

But why windows? Why do we need a Windows Server Starter edition?

Its windows server with out the server features like domain controller, but with the the unlocked features like quad socket and 4tb ram and better storage. 

 

5 minutes ago, johnkristian said:

And from build 1709, it seems that the traditional GUI is completely removed?

Gotta select the desktop experience option at install.

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something in me hopes that they they actually implement features from this version in a workstation win10 enterprise version, and bonus points for making it an LTSB release without all the usual cruft shite that I have to deal with running Win10

idk

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Yes. I'm running enterprise right now, and it's a bit annoying having to change to pro for workstation.
I suppose it can be done without reinstall, like going from enterprise to edu. I'll have to give it a try.

 

 

I see that you need the Windows 10 1709 build updated in december 17.

The iso I had lying around was updated in september. I'll download it and give it a shot.

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8 minutes ago, johnkristian said:

Yes. I'm running enterprise right now, and it's a bit annoying having to change to pro for workstation.
I suppose it can be done without reinstall, like going from enterprise to edu. I'll have to give it a try.

 

Are you running hardware that has over 2tb(keeps going up) of ram or quad socket? do you need refs or better storage spaces? WIndows 10 ent has more features(it seems, idk if pro for workstations has nfs and a few other goodies)

 

also enterprise seems to have most of the features already, so you would be losing features

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Yes, I know. I'll have to consider that before I upgrade. At least at work, I might be needing Direct access (but probably not on my workstation).

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsforbusiness/compare

 

I have a dual socket Supermicro X9DAI system with 192GB ram. I will not be needing it for the hardware, but SMB direct is interesting, I move a lot of data over my 10GbE dual nic.
I run ReFS on three of my file servers and storage spaces on one of them, but not on any of my workstations (and it mainly was a bad idea, since you lose some storage functionality like NFS and dedupe).

I'm mostly curious at this point.

 

I see I have misunderstood the point With Windows server 2016 1709.
Is it so that it's mainly meant for azure/cloud/hosted environments?
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsserver/2017/10/26/faq-on-windows-server-version-1709-and-semi-annual-channel/

 

English is not my mother tounge, so some times I just have to ask. :P 

 

This was somewhat helpful.
I don't have any use cases that would need Semi-annual channel builds, so I'll stick to LTSB / 1607 on Winsrv2016 for now.

It also point out a a thing about windows 10 pro for workstations that I didn't think about. It will be updated (new builds) more often than Windows server 2016 (probably)

 

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I've been using W10Pro WS since yesterday, was upgrading my Home edition to Pro, and saw the option (some what hidden) to upgrade to Pro Workstation, and thought I'd give it a go. 

Don't have that kind of hardware but was looking for bitlocker and hyper-v (that runs Linux without any hassle) and would end up fine with the "ordinary" Pro-version, but I was curious and now here I am. 

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