which one?

[Alphabet]

ive made a couple of post about this and i just dont want to be let down and see no improvement. should i get this : https://gyazo.com/69be1e9b144dadfb9379f1a3d7cf556c or should i get this : https://gyazo.com/4021a9a03a247092c5d910c26e6fa92b ? i dont know what to do because if i get the i5 and the lga1151 socket i can upgrade to i7 in the future but if i get the ryzen theres not really much cpus that fit am4. all i really do is game and i might want to stream here and there, games like csgo, h1z1, and fortnite and have a consistent 200-250 fps. what should i do? i have roughly $300 budget.

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

 

No one should buy Kaby Lake anymore, the R5 1600 > i5s IMO, you'd want an i5 8400 if you wanted intel right now

Don't buy that MSI board, get the ASrock Pro 4 or ASUS PRIME X370 PRO if it's under $150

[Alphabet]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

No one should buy Kaby Lake anymore, the R5 1600 > i5s IMO, you'd want an i5 8400 if you wanted intel right now

Don't buy that MSI board, get the ASrock Pro 4 or ASUS PRIME X370 PRO if it's under $150

whats wrong with the board i picked? i was getting it beacuase i have the nzxt h440 white and i was color scheming. u would 100% get the r5 and it will outperform the i5s? i mean ive done a lil bit of research but just want second opininons just to be safe

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

nzxt h440

That case doesn't have a mesh front intake, should look at the Masterbox 5 black or Silverstone RL06

MSI's AM4 boards are weak, haven't heard many good things

If you're going to be doing streaming the extra multi-threaded performance of the r5 chip should be better than a bit more per thread performance, and the AM4 platform should last a while, should invest in the PRIME X370 PRO over a cheaper motherboard
 

 

 

[zombienerd]

Ryzen Refresh is on the horizon.  So, there very well could be some more options on the AM4 side of things soon, if they don't do that silly "+" thing they've done with previous generations.  

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, zombienerd said:

Ryzen Refresh is on the horizon.  So, there very well could be some more options on the AM4 side of things soon, if they don't do that silly "+" thing they've done with previous generations.  

That's probably all the ryzen refresh is, if we're lucky the average OC will be 4.5ghz and memory support will be improved

Ryzen 2 may not be announced until late next year

[Alphabet]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That case doesn't have a mesh front intake, should look at the Masterbox 5 black or Silverstone RL06

MSI's AM4 boards are weak, haven't heard many good things

If you're going to be doing streaming the extra multi-threaded performance of the r5 chip should be better than a bit more per thread performance, and the AM4 platform should last a while, should invest in the PRIME X370 PRO over a cheaper motherboard
 

 

 

im not really worried bout the case. wtf is the mesh for lol? and im not really into oc so ill problyl wont be doing any of that unless i have to

[Alphabet]

Just now, Streetguru said:

That's probably all the ryzen refresh is, if we're lucky the average OC will be 4.5ghz and memory support will be improved

Ryzen 2 may not be announced until late next year

i want something to last a cpl years or so

 

[zombienerd]

Just now, Streetguru said:

That's probably all the ryzen refresh is, if we're lucky the average OC will be 4.5ghz and memory support will be improved

Ryzen 2 may not be announced until late next year

I'm hoping for more Cache, more Cores, and more Clock   

 

We'll see, I suppose.

[zombienerd]

Just now, Alphabet said:

i want something to last a cpl years or so

 

The Ryzen 5 1600 should hold its weight for at least 2-3 years, I'd hope.  Otherwise, I'd be a fool for buying one.  I don't see it becoming obsolete faster than any other platform.  

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

wtf is the mesh for lol?

You are totally going to be overclocking ryzen because it's really easy to hit 3800mhz for free performance, just don't go past 1.35V

 

mesh is so you don't cook your hardware and run it 10C hotter than it needs to be

Here's the RL06 pro with 3 120mm fans for intake
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Computer-Intake-RL06WS-PRO/dp/B01MUDWTDK

[zombienerd]

Did some searching, and the next gen Ryzen chips will work in AM4 without upgrading your board.. Just BIOS updates.  That's something that Intel RARELY does.

 

Quote

Naturally, Prior can’t really comment on unannounced products. But he did reiterate a comment publicly announced by AMD that it will support the AM4 motherboard socket through 2020. He also talked about the “Zen” processor development, which started four years ago and eventually required two teams

Source: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-refresh-next-inline-am4-socket/

[Hotseff]

28 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

ive made a couple of post about this and i just dont want to be let down and see no improvement. should i get this : https://gyazo.com/69be1e9b144dadfb9379f1a3d7cf556c or should i get this : https://gyazo.com/4021a9a03a247092c5d910c26e6fa92b ? i dont know what to do because if i get the i5 and the lga1151 socket i can upgrade to i7 in the future but if i get the ryzen theres not really much cpus that fit am4. all i really do is game and i might want to stream here and there, games like csgo, h1z1, and fortnite and have a consistent 200-250 fps. what should i do? i have roughly $300 budget.

This might work https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMTD6X

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Hotseff said:

This might work https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMTD6X

1400 isn't exactly good enough for streaming unless he only does GPU accelerated stuff

[Hotseff]

Just now, Streetguru said:

1400 isn't exactly good enough for streaming unless he only does GPU accelerated stuff

Well it's impossible to fit an Ryzen 5 1600 in a $300 budget so that's why I put the Ryzen 5 1400 so he'd at least have smt

[Alphabet]

1 hour ago, Hotseff said:

Well it's impossible to fit an Ryzen 5 1600 in a $300 budget so that's why I put the Ryzen 5 1400 so he'd at least have smt

hows it impossible? without the ram i want its like 305$. i can splurge a couple of dollars lol

[Alphabet]

1 hour ago, Streetguru said:

You are totally going to be overclocking ryzen because it's really easy to hit 3800mhz for free performance, just don't go past 1.35V

 

mesh is so you don't cook your hardware and run it 10C hotter than it needs to be

Here's the RL06 pro with 3 120mm fans for intake
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Computer-Intake-RL06WS-PRO/dp/B01MUDWTDK

i most likely wont overclock. i really dnt have money for extra fans/aftermarket coolers

[Alphabet]

i appreciate all the advice. will the ryzen 5 1600 and mobo that i picked be better than the i5 and lga1151 mobo?

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

i most likely wont overclock. i really dnt have money for extra fans/aftermarket coolers

You have the money to do it quite easily, and you can even OC on the stock cooler a bit, the RL06 is cheaper at newegg and a Hyper T4 is $20

Ryzen 5 1600 > i5 8400 in my book, you shouldn't consider Kaby lake at all anymore
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQwVtJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQwVtJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.28 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone - Redline RL06WS-PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($67.75 @ Newegg)
Total: $529.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-27 01:57 EST-0500

[Alphabet]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

You have the money to do it quite easily, and you can even OC on the stock cooler a bit, the RL06 is cheaper at newegg and a Hyper T4 is $20

Ryzen 5 1600 > i5 8400 in my book, you shouldn't consider Kaby lake at all anymore
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQwVtJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQwVtJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.28 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone - Redline RL06WS-PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($67.75 @ Newegg)
Total: $529.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-27 01:57 EST-0500

i was gonna order all the parts from amazon with prime depending on how much the total price was

[Alphabet]

i dont even know if i posted my specs lol

this is my specs : 

cpu : amd fx 6300 6 core

graphics card : gtx 760

Mobo :  MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

psu : i forgot wich 1 exactly but its like a 700+w

ram : just regular ddr3 6gb

monitor: asus 144hz

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Alphabet said:

i was gonna order all the parts from amazon with prime depending on how much the total price was

Going by that list buy the CPU and cooler at amazon, and buy the rest at newegg and save money, possibly spending more on your motherboard for the ASUS PRIME X370 PRO

 

Newegg has free/cheap shipping generally and is pretty fast in any event.

[Alphabet]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Going by that list buy the CPU and cooler at amazon, and buy the rest at newegg and save money, possibly spending more on your motherboard for the ASUS PRIME X370 PRO

 

Newegg has free/cheap shipping generally and is pretty fast in any event.

ok thanks for the advice and helping me!

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Alphabet said:

ok thanks for the advice and helping me!

The PRIME X370 PRO is on a pretty solid sale right now as well, $129, if anything buy the CPU cooler later if needed to get the better motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qMdFf7/asus-prime-x370-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x370-pro

[Alphabet]

12 hours ago, Streetguru said:

The PRIME X370 PRO is on a pretty solid sale right now as well, $129, if anything buy the CPU cooler later if needed to get the better motherboard
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qMdFf7/asus-prime-x370-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x370-pro

whats good about this motherboard vs the one i picked? im jw