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So I've been trying to balance this build. I've been thinking about this but I don't think I'll be able to buy this for another 2 months or so... Will this be a good build if I get the opportunity?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YJtTd6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YJtTd6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($201.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($314.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($72.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: CORSAIR ValueSelect 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4 2400 C16 1.2V for Intel 7th Gen and AMD Ryzen  ($85.96 @ Newegg) 
Other: SK hynix SL308 2.5" 250GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) HFS250G32TND-N1A2A ($84.99)
Other: Fenvi FV8801 AC PCIe WiFi Adapter / Wireless Adapter / PCI-E Card , 802.11AC Dual Band 7260AC WIFI+BT 4.0 PCI Express ... ($39.99)
Total: $980.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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11 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

So I've been trying to balance this build. I've been thinking about this but I don't think I'll be able to buy this for another 2 months or so... Will this be a good build if I get the opportunity?

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YJtTd6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YJtTd6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($201.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($314.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($72.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: CORSAIR ValueSelect 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4 2400 C16 1.2V for Intel 7th Gen and AMD Ryzen  ($85.96 @ Newegg) 
Other: SK hynix SL308 2.5" 250GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) HFS250G32TND-N1A2A ($84.99)
Other: Fenvi FV8801 AC PCIe WiFi Adapter / Wireless Adapter / PCI-E Card , 802.11AC Dual Band 7260AC WIFI+BT 4.0 PCI Express ... ($39.99)
Total: $980.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Ram is the only issue.  2400 is slow for Ryzen and only 1 stick will be single channel.  Also you'll fill up that SSD fast.  Add a HDD to store games and files.

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33 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

Ram is the only issue.  2400 is slow for Ryzen and only 1 stick will be single channel.  Also you'll fill up that SSD fast.  Add a HDD to store games and files.

I already have a 500gb 2.5" drive from a laptop than I will use.

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With a $1000 budget, you should be able to get a 1070.

The motherboard is crap. Something like the Prime Plus would be a better board.

Overpriced GPU. That's only $80 below a 1070, which will perform ~25% better.

For an RX 580 build, you're overspending on the case, imo. 

Same goes for the PSU.

The RAM is crap. Get a ≥2800 MHz kit for $10 more.

That's overpriced for an SL308. You can get an 850 Evo for that price. 

Do you really need WiFi and Bluetooth?

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Just now, seon123 said:

Do you really need WiFi and Bluetooth?

Wouldn't have added the card if I didn't :)

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The RAM is crap. Get a ≥2800 MHz kit for $10 more.

I doubt $10 justifies RAM speed when I can OC it. But I will look for other sticks.

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Just now, PerfectPlasma said:

I doubt $10 justifies RAM speed when I can OC it. But I will look for other sticks.

Overclocking RAM is way more tedious than overclocking the CPU and GPU, with lots of subtimings. Worth the $10 premium, imo. And Corsair's RAM kits are pretty bad in general, afaik

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11 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The motherboard is crap. Something like the Prime Plus would be a better board.

How can you verify this claim? 

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@seon123 Well now the build will cut through my max if I add an SSD.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW8BsJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KW8BsJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($201.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($121.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card  ($434.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake - SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($57.81 @ Newegg) 
Other: Fenvi FV8801 AC PCIe WiFi Adapter / Wireless Adapter / PCI-E Card , 802.11AC Dual Band 7260AC WIFI+BT 4.0 PCI Express ... ($39.99)
Total: $1032.72
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3 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

Well now the build will cut through my max if I add an SSD.

You don't need an X370 board. Just get a decent B350 board, like the ones with Asrock's big 3-phase or the Asus Prime Plus. 

The Smart is an absolutely crap PSU. The CX450M is available for a bit less, and is an actually decent PSU.

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Damn autocorrect

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Just now, seon123 said:

You don't need an X370 board

Not even when I upgrade down the line? When Zen+ comes out I will eventually upgrade to the R7.

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9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The CX450M

Are you sure that 450 watts is enough for a 1070?

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10 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

Not even when I upgrade down the line? When Zen+ comes out I will eventually upgrade to the R7.

For an 8-core, it will be fine with the stock cooler. A slight overclock to ~3,7-3,8 GHz with the stock cooler is fine

2 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

Are you sure that 450 watts is enough for a 1070?

That's plenty for a 1600 and a 1080 Ti under a gaming load

:)

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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zs4W2R
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zs4W2R/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($201.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($101.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($95.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($76.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Inwin - 101 Black ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: MSI - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Graphics Card - Black/White  ($434.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: CORSAIR CP-9020120-NA 450W Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Other: Fenvi FV8801 AC PCIe WiFi Adapter / Wireless Adapter / PCI-E Card , 802.11AC Dual Band 7260AC WIFI+BT 4.0 PCI Express ... ($39.99)
Total: $1071.86
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3 minutes ago, PerfectPlasma said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zs4W2R

MSI's AM4 boards aren't good. As I said, the good B350 boards are the Asus Prime Plus (and I guess the Strix), and the ones with Asrock's big 3-phase.

That case costs pretty much the same, and doesn't come with any fans, that I'm aware of.

The CX450M is available for less than the CX450. 

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7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The CX450M is available for less than the CX450. 

That is currently not the case.

450

450M

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SanDisk - Ultra 3D 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card  ($424.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I REV 4.2 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1057.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card  ($424.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($32.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter  ($39.88 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1095.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Basically same as Herman's but smaller ssd, but 2tb HDD for storage, (which will be faster than a laptop HDD which is 5400rpm normally)

Persoanlly have used the Tp-link wifi adapter, and it works quite well.

 

Current System Specs:

CPU: Intel I5-7660K; CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212X; Thermal Paste: IC Diamond 7 Carat; Motherboard: MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon;

RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8gb) DDR4 - 2400; SSD Storage: 1TB Samsung 850 EVO; Storage: 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm;

GPU: Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1070 8gb G1 Gaming; Case: NZXT Phantom 530 Black; PSU: EVGA Supernova G2 650W 80+ Gold, OS: Windows 10 Home

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