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Hello, thanks for reading my post. I am going to build a pc soon, and I am wondering is it really worth it to spend a lot more money to go for DDR4 4500MHz speed that costs the bank itself, or just going for the baseline, DDR4 2133MHz? I am building a budget pc around 1100-1200 dollars. Also, can any modern DDR4 RAM fit with any modern motherboard? I have seen different types of ram covers, like some ram (Kingston) does not have any cover and looks like a cheap piece of a motherboard and others have cool covers on top, but they are both the same speeds and types... should I go for a cheaper Kingston ram or a little bit more expensive HyperX with the same speeds? And the last question... really should have numbered these... Would you rather get 8GB of really fast DDR4 4500MHz RAM or 16gb of the baseline DDR4 2133MHz RAM?

Thanks, please help if you can. (:

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6 minutes ago, Jordan Rage said:

Hello, thanks for reading my post. I am going to build a pc soon, and I am wondering is it really worth it to spend a lot more money to go for DDR4 4500MHz speed that costs the bank itself, or just going for the baseline, DDR4 2133MHz? I am building a budget pc around 1100-1200 dollars. Also, can any modern DDR4 RAM fit with any modern motherboard? And the last question... really should have numbered these... Would you rather get 8GB of really fast DDR4 4500MHz RAM or 16gb of the baseline DDR4 2133MHz RAM?

Thanks, please help if you can. (:

The sweet spot is 3000-3200mhz. The performance bump that you get there over something like 2666mhz for nearly every task that I can think of is fairly minor. All modern DDR4 will physically fit with every motherboard that is rated for DDR4, but not every motherboard will be able to run your RAM at those speeds. I would get 16gb of 2666-3200mhz. Past that you're paying a whole lot for some numbers that have little no real benefits in real world applications. Furthermore, the CAS latency rises greatly (usually). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency

 

The lower the CAS latency, the better! But you also want high frequency too. There should be an equation in that link I sent. But again, just pick up some G.Skill or Corsair 2666-3200mhz 16-18 CAS RAM. Cheers! :D

 

 

NOTE: RAM is already extremely expensive right now due to worldwide shortgages (yay...). That means that you'll be paying a whole heck of a lot more for RAM than normal. Therefore, high speed RAM will be even more overpriced than it should be. 

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RAM speed hardly makes a difference in most tasks including gaming. Stick with ~2500 speed and you should be fine

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Also, RAM prices are currently major BS. Might be worth waiting a bit for the prices to drop back down to something more normal. No idea when that will be, though

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8 minutes ago, Jordan Rage said:

Hello, thanks for reading my post. I am going to build a pc soon, and I am wondering is it really worth it to spend a lot more money to go for DDR4 4500MHz speed that costs the bank itself, or just going for the baseline, DDR4 2133MHz? I am building a budget pc around 1100-1200 dollars. Also, can any modern DDR4 RAM fit with any modern motherboard? And the last question... really should have numbered these... Would you rather get 8GB of really fast DDR4 4500MHz RAM or 16gb of the baseline DDR4 2133MHz RAM?

Thanks, please help if you can. (:

for Intel 2400 mhz or lower for ryzen 3000-3200 mhz, ryzen chips love faster ram while Intel says: I DON'T CARE!

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1 minute ago, Jordan Rage said:

Thank you, mister CrippledROBOT

You betcha! If you thought that was helpful, select the post as "solved" so other users can see! :)

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1 minute ago, Railgun said:

Also, RAM prices are currently major BS. Might be worth waiting a bit for the prices to drop back down to something more normal. No idea when that will be, though

thanks, I am really impatient, i will just get 2666MHz 16GB since it's the same price a 2133 version

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1 minute ago, CrippledROBOT said:

You betcha! If you thought that was helpful, select the post as "solved" so other users can see! :)

not sure it is absolutely solved though just yet

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2 minutes ago, Jordan Rage said:

thanks, I am really impatient, i will just get 2666MHz 16GB since it's the same price a 2133 version

I was going to suggest that but things move quickly here! A bit of speed never hurts, but it isn't worth paying tons for the ultra high speed stuff unless you know you really need it, or you want it for bragging rights. 2666 is a happy medium. There's an indirect advantage to lower speed ram too - it will almost certainly work. With high speed modules (3000+) mobo compatibility is a lottery.

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I am using a Ryzen-MSI build theme on my pc, what would you suggest for an AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and a MSI Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti when it comes to ram speeds?

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I'd recommend faster ram like 3000-3200 for ryzen but perhaps for intel you could find a sweet spot somewhere a little lower, but above 3200 does not seem very practical.

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3 minutes ago, BigSchweetie said:

I'd recommend faster ram like 3000-3200 for ryzen but perhaps for intel you could find a sweet spot somewhere a little lower, but above 3200 does not seem very practical.

I don't have the money for such high speeds, I NEED 16gb of ram at least

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In my opinion, given the relatively lower compute potential of that CPU having faster ram is less of a necessity. On Ryzen ram speeds affect two things: the ram bandwidth, and also the speed at which parts of the CPU run at. It is more for the latter part that higher speed ram could be beneficial, but again I still wouldn't worry about it much for that model. If you needed the performance, it would probably be better to stretch for a higher CPU model than spend it on expensive high speed ram.

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Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays.
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