Help! BSOD/Memtest over 1M errors

[PedMar]

Hey guys I need help!

I have these http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengea...00mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15 on an ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F Gaming.

I tried to use the auto DCOP configuration and it had the timings right and even the voltage (on the title) however it was setting the DRAM Voltage to 1.4 and it was displayed in purple font color, this was causing me to get the same BSOD video_scheduler_internal_error almost instantly after booting.
So I decided to manually set it up choosing 2993mhz speed and manually setting timings and voltage on 15-17-17-17-35 and 1.35v respectively with soc voltage set to offset mode + 0.01875 and it displays at 0.825V. I also changed the procODT_SM to 48 ohm and that's it.

However when using multiple software I'm getting a BSOD video_scheduler_internal_error so I did a memtest with 16 passes (that is still running and right now it has 1.336.033 errors found and what I can see on the screen says TEST 3 ADDR (different codes) expected 0000000000 actual FFFFFFFFFF CPU 3

My GPU is an EVGA GTX1060 SUPERCLOCKED that I have not touched at all.

Should I stop the memtest and change something?

 

 

UPDATE:

 

The errors were all in test 3 after I stopped it in pass 10/16

 

I tried only testing the ram using the test 3 and it did not give me an error.

 

I now have decreased speed to 2133 mhz with the rest unchanged and Im doing a 6 passes memtest. I dont have much time to do very long tests

[johndms]

21 minutes ago, PedMar said:

I tried to use the auto DCOP configuration and it had the timings right and even the voltage (on the title) however it was setting the DRAM Voltage to 1.4 and it was displayed in purple font color, this was causing me to get the same BSOD video_scheduler_internal_error almost instantly after booting.
So I decided to manually set it up choosing 2993mhz speed and manually setting timings and voltage on 15-17-17-17-35 and 1.35v respectively with soc voltage set to offset mode + 0.01875 and it displays at 0.825V. I also changed the procODT_SM to 48 ohm and that's it.

You should set ProcODT back to Auto, unless you know exactly what you're doing. Start with the easier troubleshooting steps before jumping to that.

 

You were on the right path, though. Manually enter those timings with 1.35v Dram Voltage. The SOC Voltage needs to be at least 1.1v (no higher than 1.2) when overclocking ram. Anything higher than 2666 for Ryzen is considered an overclock. And I've noticed Ryzen boards don't like odd numbered CAS Latency, so your 15-17-17-17-35 will most likely be 16-17-17-17-35. But if you still get errors with those settings and soc voltage, try lowering the frequency to 2666. If errors continue, increase timings to 16(or 18)-18-18-18-40. Try experimenting with increasing the DRAM Voltage to 1.36, 1.37 (no higher than 1.40 to be safe).

 

If you're still getting errors at 2666 with those loose timings, there are a few additional steps, but I'd be surprised if 2666/18-18-18-40 doesn't work. A potato can run stable with those timings. You can try changing Command Rate from 1T to 2T if it's not already. ProcODT is still a bit unclear to me. I think Auto is 53.3, but I've had greater success with my Hynix ram kit with 60 and 68.

 

As with MemTest. Double check the settings to make sure you're running with "All Cores in Parallel", or worded similarly. I use a custom test that takes about 20 minutes to complete. Hit 'T' to choose which tests to run. Hit Enter to uncheck all tests but number 6. Change the number of passes to 10. If you can get through 10 passes of test 6, then your ram is most likely stable. Even one error is unacceptable.

[just_dave]

2933, 16-16-16-36, 1.36V, everything else you changed on auto. Load optimized defaults befire any OC, cause i think you screwed it up with the settings you shouldn't have messed with.

[PedMar]

1 hour ago, johndms said:

You should set ProcODT back to Auto, unless you know exactly what you're doing. Start with the easier troubleshooting steps before jumping to that.

 

You were on the right path, though. Manually enter those timings with 1.35v Dram Voltage. The SOC Voltage needs to be at least 1.1v (no higher than 1.2) when overclocking ram. Anything higher than 2666 for Ryzen is considered an overclock. And I've noticed Ryzen boards don't like odd numbered CAS Latency, so your 15-17-17-17-35 will most likely be 16-17-17-17-35. But if you still get errors with those settings and soc voltage, try lowering the frequency to 2666. If errors continue, increase timings to 16(or 18)-18-18-18-40. Try experimenting with increasing the DRAM Voltage to 1.36, 1.37 (no higher than 1.40 to be safe).

 

If you're still getting errors at 2666 with those loose timings, there are a few additional steps, but I'd be surprised if 2666/18-18-18-40 doesn't work. A potato can run stable with those timings. You can try changing Command Rate from 1T to 2T if it's not already. ProcODT is still a bit unclear to me. I think Auto is 53.3, but I've had greater success with my Hynix ram kit with 60 and 68.

 

As with MemTest. Double check the settings to make sure you're running with "All Cores in Parallel", or worded similarly. I use a custom test that takes about 20 minutes to complete. Hit 'T' to choose which tests to run. Hit Enter to uncheck all tests but number 6. Change the number of passes to 10. If you can get through 10 passes of test 6, then your ram is most likely stable. Even one error is unacceptable.

I was advised to use these manually settings (except the tRFC) on 1.2 SOC Voltage with Ram at 1.35v

 

[johndms]

4 minutes ago, PedMar said:

I was advised to use these manually settings (except the tRFC) on 1.2 SOC Voltage with Ram at 1.35v

I've used that as well and that's more geared towards the extreme overclockers trying to squeeze out the last ounce of performance possible. You should focus first on getting your memory stable at its rated speed (or 2666) before delving into the secondary and tertiary timings. I'd say it's best to leave most of that at Auto until you can get the primary timings to work (tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS) without spewing errors in Memtest86.

[PedMar]

 

4 minutes ago, johndms said:

I've used that as well and that's more geared towards the extreme overclockers trying to squeeze out the last ounce of performance possible. You should focus first on getting your memory stable at its rated speed (or 2666) before delving into the secondary and tertiary timings. I'd say it's best to leave most of that at Auto until you can get the primary timings to work (tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS) without spewing errors in Memtest86.

Changing all that shit ive had gave me errors even on booting. I reseted default and maybe i will just oc the processor. Any guide or something? How much performance im losing on using stock speed ryzen and 2133mhz ram vs 3.7 oc cpu that was stable and getting the memos to work at 3000mhz

[PedMar]

I used DOCP profile but adjusted voltage to 1.35 soc is on 1.125v and it ran the test 6 10 times no errors. However it also ran at  soc 1.2v. I guess leaving it at 1.125v is better?

[johndms]

56 minutes ago, PedMar said:

I used DOCP profile but adjusted voltage to 1.35 soc is on 1.125v and it ran the test 6 10 times no errors. However it also ran at  soc 1.2v. I guess leaving it at 1.125v is better?

My ASRock board automatically increases SOC to 1.1 when I apply XMP (DOCP), but I can't manually change it. I'd say anywhere between 1.1 and 1.2 is fine. Whatever works. All things equal, I'd assume lower would be better.

 

2 hours ago, PedMar said:

 

Changing all that shit ive had gave me errors even on booting. I reseted default and maybe i will just oc the processor. Any guide or something? How much performance im losing on using stock speed ryzen and 2133mhz ram vs 3.7 oc cpu that was stable and getting the memos to work at 3000mhz

Ryzen is a pain in the ass with ram, but there is a significant improvement from 2133 to 2666. The difference becomes less the higher you go. The sweet-spot seems to be between 2666 and 2933. The differences between these frequencies and 3200 is not noticeable outside of benchmarks.

 

After you reset your bios to defaults, were you successful in loading DOCP? No errors?

[PedMar]

48 minutes ago, johndms said:

My ASRock board automatically increases SOC to 1.1 when I apply XMP (DOCP), but I can't manually change it. I'd say anywhere between 1.1 and 1.2 is fine. Whatever works. All things equal, I'd assume lower would be better.

 

Ryzen is a pain in the ass with ram, but there is a significant improvement from 2133 to 2666. The difference becomes less the higher you go. The sweet-spot seems to be between 2666 and 2933. The differences between these frequencies and 3200 is not noticeable outside of benchmarks.

 

After you reset your bios to defaults, were you successful in loading DOCP? No errors?

Yes it booted and Im now doing a full memtest with 16 passes. Its about to complete it’s second pass with no errors.

 

it completed the 10 passes test 6 though.

[johndms]

1 minute ago, PedMar said:

Yes it booted and Im now doing a full memtest with 16 passes. Its about to complete it’s second pass with no errors.

 

it completed the 10 passes test 6 though.

If it's at 2933, that sounds very good. When I experiment with different ram timings or frequencies, I usually verify stability with 10 passes of test 6. That's more than enough for me if there are no errors. I'll provide a link to a more in-depth memory overclocking guide. The Stress Testing section is where I learned of the custom test I now use.

 

 

[johndms]

And here's my own personal experience with my 3000MHz rated G.Skill kit with Hynix M-Die. You can see the kinds of things I was trying and the results of my testing.

TL;DR - Probably not worth the trouble, lol.

 

 

[PedMar]

On 11/18/2017 at 2:22 PM, johndms said:

And here's my own personal experience with my 3000MHz rated G.Skill kit with Hynix M-Die. You can see the kinds of things I was trying and the results of my testing.

TL;DR - Probably not worth the trouble, lol.

 

I let the proOCDT_SM on auto as I did not want to risk it. Set up motherboard DOCP but changed voltaje to 1.35 and soc to 1.125v 16 passes full test on memtest gave me 0 errors. IDK if modifying that value and as well the (30-30-40-60ohm) values everyone seems to use

[johndms]

2 minutes ago, PedMar said:

I let the proOCDT_SM on auto as I did not want to risk it. Set up motherboard DOCP but changed voltaje to 1.35 and soc to 1.125v 16 passes full test on memtest gave me 0 errors. IDK if modifying that value and as well the (30-30-40-60ohm) values everyone seems to use

If you're not having any errors, why fix something that's not broken? The vast majority of people will never bother with their ram timings beyond selecting XMP(docp). Of those, even fewer will tinker with the secondary and tertiary timings.

[PedMar]

5 minutes ago, johndms said:

If you're not having any errors, why fix something that's not broken? The vast majority of people will never bother with their ram timings beyond selecting XMP(docp). Of those, even fewer will tinker with the secondary and tertiary timings.

Yeah, thought the same. Thank you very much for your follow ups.