Need help with build

[Camelsmaycry]

Greetings 

 

I’m in the process of building my new gaming/designing beast and I’m looking for the ultimate performance.

 

i already set my mind up on these parts 

2x Asus 1080ti Poseidon 

Nzxt Rog Noctis 450 

Corsair 860 watt psu 

blue cables from backs mod

4x 10 TB HDD as I have lots of data from projects that I want to keep 

 

but I’m kinda confused on what cpu to pick as some friends told me an 8700k won’t have enough pcie lanes to cover:

2x m.2

1x pcie ssd

more hdd 

 

with the sli

 

so would you help compete or alter this build 

 

Budget:4000$-6000$

for gaming and designing 

 

PS I’m custom water cooling it from EK

[Spookyjugular]

I feel like i could be more helpful if you could give me an idea of your budget for the parts you haven't decided on

[Camelsmaycry]

1 hour ago, Spookyjugular said:

I feel like i could be more helpful if you could give me an idea of your budget for the parts you haven't decided on

Well this was my original idea (But with Posidon instead of strix GPU) 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WBWvTH

 

But a friend of mine told me to double check on the amount of storage im putting in this machine to PCIE lanes since the 8700k one supports 16 lanes

 

[brob]

Just now, Camelsmaycry said:

Well this was my original idea (But with Posidon instead of strix GPU) 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WBWvTH

 

But a friend of mine told me to double check on the amount of storage im putting in this machine to PCIE lanes since the 8700k one supports 16 lanes

 

The cpu has 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes. The chipset can provide an additional 24. That said, your friend is right. One needs to check the motherboard notes on restrictions and trade offs with SATA and PCIe.

 

The Maximus X Apex is a very nice EATX motherboard. According to the NZXT specs, it will not fit in the ATX Noctis 450. One might be able to get the board in, but the leading edge would not be supported and cable runs would be tricky.

 

With two GTX 1080 Ti and lots of hdd a larger psu is required, especially if one plans to overclock.

 

Not sure why so much NVMe storage is desired. Except in particular use cases, the added bandwidth is not noticeable. If it is necessary, moving to X299 or Threadripper would make things easier.

 

With a different storage plan, an i7-8700K build could work. One option would be to put the 4x10TB hdd in a NAS. Another, which I outline below would be to go with a 1TB NVMe for boot, system, etc. and a larger SATA ssd instead of more NVMe drives.

 

You might also consider selecting gpu designed just for custom loops rather than both liquid and air.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($414.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($409.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($447.30 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($677.66 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti SEA HAWK EK X 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card  ($824.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti SEA HAWK EK X 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card  ($824.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - Noctis 450 ROG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Gold 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $5485.77
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 05:42 EST-0500

[Camelsmaycry]

9 hours ago, brob said:

The cpu has 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes. The chipset can provide an additional 24. That said, your friend is right. One needs to check the motherboard notes on restrictions and trade offs with SATA and PCIe.

 

The Maximus X Apex is a very nice EATX motherboard. According to the NZXT specs, it will not fit in the ATX Noctis 450. One might be able to get the board in, but the leading edge would not be supported and cable runs would be tricky.

 

With two GTX 1080 Ti and lots of hdd a larger psu is required, especially if one plans to overclock.

 

Not sure why so much NVMe storage is desired. Except in particular use cases, the added bandwidth is not noticeable. If it is necessary, moving to X299 or Threadripper would make things easier.

 

With a different storage plan, an i7-8700K build could work. One option would be to put the 4x10TB hdd in a NAS. Another, which I outline below would be to go with a 1TB NVMe for boot, system, etc. and a larger SATA ssd instead of more NVMe drives.

 

You might also consider selecting gpu designed just for custom loops rather than both liquid and air.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($414.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($259.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($409.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($447.30 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($677.66 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Storage: Hitachi - Deskstar NAS 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($319.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti SEA HAWK EK X 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card  ($824.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti SEA HAWK EK X 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card  ($824.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - Noctis 450 ROG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Gold 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($169.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $5485.77
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-18 05:42 EST-0500

Thank you for the advice its highly appreciated

 

To be honest I will use this build for both my gaming and my side business in Media, I used to run 2 machines but since Im working from home I prefer to have one machine to do both (if possible) 

 

what I was thinking with the storage selection was 

Corsair PCIE for OS & Most programs

1st M2 to help with editing keeping my in progress work on

2nd M2 Games and to support 1st M2 if full

4x HDD for mass storage as I keep all portfolio there, as well as my home server as I only carry a tablet to meetings and access my portfolio remotely to deal with clients

 

I thought throw all my budget on one rig instead of two separate machines but since im not very much in touch with the latest specs I didnt know whats the best build (i7-i9-Ryzen-Threadripper) And would appreciate the help (If what I just say changes anything from the build you send)

 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

[brob]

@Camelsmaycry

 

I would suggest a commercial NAS for bulk data storage. Some of these boxes are fairly sophisticated and can offer rather broad access, including outside the local network. (I.E. can be accessed from the Internet.) A NAS is essentially a computer designed to offer file and other services. So in a sense you are staying with two computers. The difference is that the NAS can be a small box that sits quietly somewhere out of the way. Since file services are not that demanding of cpu resources, there is no need to use a high performance desktop cpu.

 

Your biggest problem is developing a backup solution that can handle 40TB.

 

With a NAS handling the bulk data store, a workstation becomes much simpler to design. But design isn't really possible without known what sort of work is done. Listing the software tools used is a good starting point. A system used primarily for Photoshop is going to differ from one intended for 4K video editing in Vegas.

 

From what has been described, multiple NVMe drives would not offer a cost effective solution. One or two large SATA ssd are probably going to satisfy local storage needs. An NVMe drive may be worth the cost for boot, system, and/or scratch. That depends on the work being done.

 

Don't think in terms of a unit for client stuff, and a unit for programs, etc. If such logical divisions are necessary, they should be handled using o/s volumes of which more than one can be hosted on a single physical volume. For example, one might have a single large ssd on which is placed a system volume (C:), a current projects volume (D:), and a games volume (E:). The advantage of thinking like this is that one can work with larger ssd which improves unit lifetime through more even wear leveling, provides more flexibility in volume sizes, and offers the ability to add more divisions (volumes) without necessarily adding more hardware.