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What will you do with the PC?

The 212 is bad for the price, something like the Cryorig H5/H7 or the Dark Rock (/Pro) 3 shouldn't cost that much more.

The MSI SLI Plus is cheaper and better.

The MX300 is cheaper than the 850 Evo, and is decent.

Why a WD Black? Save the money, or get a larger capacity HDD.

550W is plenty for the build, you can get a cheaper PSU.

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I will be gaming, PUBG, overwatch new AAA stuff like that, planning on maybe streaming but not for certain on that one, WD black is a current HDD I own so just gonna keep that and I will look into the others thanks

 

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What will you do with the machine? What do you need a WD Black for?

Main System: Phobos

AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (8C/16T), ASRock B450 Steel Legend, 16GB G.SKILL Aegis DDR4 3000MHz, AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB (XFX), 960GB Crucial M500, 2TB Seagate BarraCuda, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations/macOS Catalina

 

Secondary System: York

Intel Core i7-2600 (4C/8T), ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3, 16GB GEIL Enhance Corsa DDR3 1600MHz, Zotac GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB, 240GB ADATA Ultimate SU650, Windows 10 Pro for Workstations

 

Older File Server: Yet to be named

Intel Pentium 4 HT (1C/2T), Intel D865GBF, 3GB DDR 400MHz, ATI Radeon HD 4650 1GB (HIS), 80GB WD Caviar, 320GB Hitachi Deskstar, Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows Server 2003 R2

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I built this to a £1500 (ish) budget and as much as my knowledge isn't massive I have a pretty good understanding of it all, any help would be appreciated as I want the best for my money

 

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2 minutes ago, BisquTz said:

I built this to a £1500 (ish) budget and as much as my knowledge isn't massive I have a pretty good understanding of it all, any help would be appreciated as I want the best for my money

 

the wd black I already own so I might aswell keep it and it is for gaming and streaming

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212 evo is too weak to handle an overclocked 8600k.

 

Are those memory what you have now? Not a choice I would do if those are coming new.

 

A 550W PSU could save some money without hurting performance, but if you are going to upgrade the graphics card in a few years time then do stay with a 650w unit.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I don't get the title... "upgrading"?!? It looks to me like you got all new components there. (except the HDD)

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

212 evo is too weak to handle an overclocked 8600k.

 

Are those memory what you have now? Not a choice I would do if those are coming new.

 

A 550W PSU could save some money without hurting performance, but if you are going to upgrade the graphics card in a few years time then do stay with a 650w unit.

not gonna be overclocking (no idea what im doing)

the 2x4gb I already own so thought id just get the same ish 8gb stick just upgrade to 16gb

and I will be upgrading the graphics card in a few years

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Just now, Dutch-stoner said:

I don't get the title... "upgrading"?!? It looks to me like you got all new components there. (except the HDD)

upgrading/replacing, yeah

couldn't think of what else to say, my current pc is what I like to call 'retro', others like to call, a bag of crap so upgrading in a sense

 

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I'd call it replacing. + why didn't you list your current hardware when you are talking about "upgrading"?

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8 minutes ago, Dutch-stoner said:

I'd call it replacing. + why didn't you list your current hardware when you are talking about "upgrading"?

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i'll recommend this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£288.97 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (Black) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.05 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£119.48 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£84.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£65.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX Video Card  (£428.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.50 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.04 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  (£194.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  (£194.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1577.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-16 13:39 GMT+0000

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

i'll recommend this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£288.97 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (Black) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.05 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£119.48 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£84.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£65.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX Video Card  (£428.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.50 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.04 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  (£194.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  (£194.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1577.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-16 13:39 GMT+0000

I like, gonna wait for some other opinions but this seems solid man, thanks

PS. 1070 Ti cheaper than the 1070 wtf ??

 

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Just now, BisquTz said:

I like, gonna wait for some other opinions but this seems solid man, thanks

PS. 1070 Ti cheaper than the 1070 wtf ??

 

eh, it happens, the better AIB gpus costing the same or more than the not-as-good AIB gpus from the next tier is pretty common. the 1070ti palit dual is even cheaper. overclock the 1070ti and it'll be close to the 1080 in performance.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Just now, herman mcpootis said:

eh, it happens, the better AIB gpus costing the same or more than the not-as-good AIB gpus from the next tier is pretty common. the 1070ti palit dual is even cheaper. overclock the 1070ti and it'll be close to the 1080 in performance.

as much as I would love that, I know nothing about overclocking so want to try and avoid that

 

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Just now, BisquTz said:

as much as I would love that, I know nothing about overclocking so want to try and avoid that

 

GPU overclocking is pretty easy, just download MSI afterburner, look up a couple OC guides and don't go crazy with the settings.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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5 minutes ago, BisquTz said:

I like, gonna wait for some other opinions but this seems solid man, thanks

PS. 1070 Ti cheaper than the 1070 wtf ??

 

also I realised my current ram is ddr3 so wont be using that obviously so if you wanna change the ram on this then suggest

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10 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

i'll recommend this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  (£288.97 @ Scan.co.uk) 
CPU Cooler: Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (Black) 62.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£57.05 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£119.48 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£84.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£65.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX Video Card  (£428.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.50 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£87.04 @ Ebuyer) 
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  (£194.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - Q2778VQE 27.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor  (£194.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1577.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-16 13:39 GMT+0000

also I realised my current ram is ddr3 so wont be using that obviously so if you wanna change the ram on this then suggest

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1 minute ago, BisquTz said:

also I realised my current ram is ddr3 so wont be using that obviously so if you wanna change the ram on this then suggest

same budget? are the dual monitors necessary?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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How about something like this? Alternatively, change the CPU to the 8400 and the motherboard to the Z370 SLI Plus.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£175.19 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£80.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£159.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£71.46 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Dual Video Card  (£409.20 @ Aria PC) 
Case: Thermaltake - View 21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£77.47 @ Amazon UK) 
Monitor: AOC - AG241QG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  (£419.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1464.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-16 13:51 GMT+0000

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3 minutes ago, BisquTz said:

ish

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  (£174.76 @ BT Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£119.48 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£159.84 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£84.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£65.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX Video Card  (£428.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£55.50 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£62.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Monitor: AOC - AG241QG 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  (£419.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1572.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-16 13:56 GMT+0000

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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17 minutes ago, BisquTz said:

upgrading/replacing, yeah

couldn't think of what else to say, my current pc is what I like to call 'retro', others like to call, a bag of crap so upgrading in a sense

 

 

So it's a new PC with old HDD right?

 

Is the two monitor necessary?

 

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

 

So it's a new PC with old HDD right?

 

Is the two monitor necessary?

 

 

new pc old hdd yeah, and no the dual monitors isn't necessary but if I do decide to stream sometime I will want to have the second monitor

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