$1,140 PC build suggestions

[Flyentology]

Hi all,

It's my first build since like forever, I came up with this build which is exactly same as the price in the title. Any suggestions that I should change something or is it good as it is? 
Is PSU enough for slight overclock of that Ryzen? Also my friend is gonna sell me his almost not used Samsung 850 Evo 250GB for $90.

 

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue, 3.5\'\', 1TB, SATA/600, 7200RPM, 64MB cache (WD10EZEX) - $54.16

PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 10 600W (BN278) Silver 80 Plus - $97.3

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce OC 6GB GDDR5 (192 Bit) 2xDVI-D, HDMI, DP, BOX (GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD) - $381.67

Case: Zalman Z3 - $40.98

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600, 3.2GHz, 16MB (YD1600BBAEBOX) - $247.87

MOBO: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK, AM4, DDR4, 2xPCI, SATA3 ,8xUSB 3.1 ATX - $108.49

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 2x4GB, 3200MHz, CL16 (F4-3200C16D-8GVKB)  - $129.11

[kelvinhall05]

Good build, but maybe a different PSU? I'd also personally get a different case, but whatever.

 

 

(@STRMfrmXMN Sorry buddy, gotta throw you under the bus again with PSU help )

[Ryois]

4 minutes ago, Flyentology said:

Is PSU enough for slight overclock of that Ryzen?

Don't use the stock AMD cooler for overclocking.

Only 8GB of RAM?

Go with an Asus board anything other than MSI https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHyxFT/asus-strix-b350-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b350-f-gaming

PSU alternative https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g63RsY/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

[Flyentology]

3 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Good build, but maybe a different PSU? I'd also personally get a different case, but whatever.

 

8GB for now, in future I plan add another 8GB.
Okay so now I added board you recommended but PSU you recommended is making me go out of budget.
What is wrong with PSU I have in my build?

[Herman Mcpootis]

25 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Good build, but maybe a different PSU? I'd also personally get a different case, but whatever.

 

 

(@STRMfrmXMN Sorry buddy, gotta throw you under the bus again with PSU help )

the pure power 10 is pretty good, no need to change it.

[kelvinhall05]

14 minutes ago, Flyentology said:

8GB for now, in future I plan add another 8GB.
Okay so now I added board you recommended but PSU you recommended is making me go out of budget.
What is wrong with PSU I have in my build?

I think you quoted the wrong guy.

[seon123]

37 minutes ago, Ryois said:

PSU alternative https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g63RsY/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

Why would you recommend that thing?

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 hours ago, Ryois said:

Don't use the stock AMD cooler for overclocking.

Only 8GB of RAM?

Go with an Asus board anything other than MSI https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHyxFT/asus-strix-b350-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-strix-b350-f-gaming

PSU alternative https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g63RsY/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

The AMD stock cooler is not that bad. My friend has a 1600 using the stock cooler at 1.36V at 3.8GHz and the CPU temps go only a smidge over 60C in his very low-airflow case. Nothing wrong with using it until you get up to maybe 1.375V on Vcore. It's also a downdraft cooler which cools the VRMs a lot.

 

Also, that PSU you linked is a much worse unit than the be Quiet! unit OP listed.

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 hours ago, Flyentology said:

8GB for now, in future I plan add another 8GB.
Okay so now I added board you recommended but PSU you recommended is making me go out of budget.
What is wrong with PSU I have in my build?

I would do a couple things different with your build. One, I would get a Ryzen 5 1400 and OC it and you'll have identical single-threaded performance and you'll just be sacrificing two cores and 4 threads. Keep in mind a 1400 is about as powerful as an i7 4790 once placed at about the same clock speed so that's not a bottleneck to pretty much any game by today's standards. You could then either put the $50 you saved towards a 120GB SSD so your system never becomes unresponsive and slow, or put it towards a better case that isn't so crap. With the 1400 you also wouldn't need to spend extra on a motherboard like the Strix since the MSI B350 Tomahawk has good enough VRMs for the AMD quad core CPUs.

[Flyentology]

7 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I would do a couple things different with your build. One, I would get a Ryzen 5 1400 and OC it and you'll have identical single-threaded performance and you'll just be sacrificing two cores and 4 threads. Keep in mind a 1400 is about as powerful as an i7 4790 once placed at about the same clock speed so that's not a bottleneck to pretty much any game by today's standards. You could then either put the $50 you saved towards a 120GB SSD so your system never becomes unresponsive and slow, or put it towards a better case that isn't so crap. With the 1400 you also wouldn't need to spend extra on a motherboard like the Strix since the MSI B350 Tomahawk has good enough VRMs for the AMD quad core CPUs.

Hmm, in terms of SSD my buddy will sell me Samsung 850 Evo 250GB cheaply so I don't really need to count it in this budget. I'm gonna push the limit a bit and get Asus ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING board. So once for all, is this PSU enough for this build or could you recommend me other one at really similar price?

[STRMfrmXMN]

23 minutes ago, Flyentology said:

Hmm, in terms of SSD my buddy will sell me Samsung 850 Evo 250GB cheaply so I don't really need to count it in this budget. I'm gonna push the limit a bit and get Asus ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING board. So once for all, is this PSU enough for this build or could you recommend me other one at really similar price?

The be Quiet is fine for you build.

 

Alright then, but what are you using a hexacore for? If you get the quad core you can save money on a board and CPU (keep in mind, the Tomahawk is kinda mediocre and, although can easily disperse the heat on the VRM of the quad core, the hexacore will be more of a struggle, thus you'd want the Asus board for the hexacore) and put that money towards a better case. Unless you're doing content creation you don't need 6 cores.

[Flyentology]

21 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

The be Quiet is fine for you build.

 

Alright then, but what are you using a hexacore for? If you get the quad core you can save money on a board and CPU (keep in mind, the Tomahawk is kinda mediocre and, although can easily disperse the heat on the VRM of the quad core, the hexacore will be more of a struggle, thus you'd want the Asus board for the hexacore) and put that money towards a better case. Unless you're doing content creation you don't need 6 cores.

Any case in similar money? Cause I definately don't need these fancy looking cases since I don't care about aesthetics at all. I'm looking for longevity of this build, like with my old 2500k that I used for almost 6 years.

[STRMfrmXMN]

15 minutes ago, Flyentology said:

Any case in similar money? Cause I definately don't need these fancy looking cases since I don't care about aesthetics at all. I'm looking for longevity of this build, like with my old 2500k that I used for almost 6 years.

Just get a case with decent airflow and build quality that you like the look of. Perhaps an S340 or Phanteks Enthoo Pro M? If either is too expensive, perhaps look at Fractal Design options.

[Ryois]

3 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

The AMD stock cooler is not that bad. My friend has a 1600 using the stock cooler at 1.36V at 3.8GHz and the CPU temps go only a smidge over 60C in his very low-airflow case. Nothing wrong with using it until you get up to maybe 1.375V on Vcore. It's also a downdraft cooler which cools the VRMs a lot.

 

Also, that PSU you linked is a much worse unit than the be Quiet! unit OP listed.

My friend has a R5 1500X and with the stock cooler I/he probably doesn't want to oc it. He's getting a r7 1700(x) idk with an aio.

[Ryois]

7 hours ago, seon123 said:

Why would you recommend that thing?

and @STRMfrmXMN oops didnt see it was a nex psu I was in a hurry to go so I clicked on the wrong psu.

[just_dave]

3 hours ago, Flyentology said:

I'm gonna push the limit a bit and get Asus ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING board.

You might wanna get the Prime B350 Plus. It will OC better than Tomahawk but won't be much more expensive.

[STRMfrmXMN]

50 minutes ago, dave_k said:

You might wanna get the Prime B350 Plus. It will OC better than Tomahawk but won't be much more expensive.

The Prime Plus has the same VRM as the Strix essentially. The SOC phases are doubled on the Strix and the heatsinking is much better on the Strix. 

[just_dave]

Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

The Prime Plus has the same VRM as the Strix essentially. The SOC phases are doubled on the Strix and the heatsinking is much better on the Strix. 

You dont say, i definitely didn't know that

The heatsinks in Prime B350 Plus will scale with airflow, Strix B350-F's blocky heatsink doesn't get any better with airflow, i tried it multiple times.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

You dont say, i definitely didn't know that

The heatsinks in Prime B350 Plus will scale with airflow, Strix B350-F's blocky heatsink doesn't get any better with airflow, i tried it multiple times.

For real?

 

Just putting my hand over the VRM with air blowing directly over it I can feel a substantial difference on my Strix. Running my 1700X at 1.4V at 3.9GHz. The VRMs don't get crazy hot though. What were you doing to show it didn't make a difference?

[just_dave]

8 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Just putting my hand over the VRM with air blowing directly over it I can feel a substantial difference on my Strix. Running my 1700X at 1.4V at 3.9GHz. The VRMs don't get crazy hot though.

If 120°C isn't crazy hot for you, then i don't know.

Such overclock with an 8 core on such garbage mobo is crazy. You're playing with time when you'll get AluPols smacked around your case.

I tested it with R5 1600, both overclocked and stock. Always about 2-3°C difference (Prime95 12K In-place FFT).

I had intel stock fan at maximum RPM right over the Vcore VRM heatsink

FYI, this is what you're working with

Isnt that a lovely temperature on 5K 105°C caps?

[STRMfrmXMN]

6 minutes ago, dave_k said:

If 120°C isn't crazy hot for you, then i don't know.

Such overclock with an 8 core on such garbage mobo is crazy. You're playing with time when you'll get AluPols smacked around your case.

I tested it with R5 1600, both overclocked and stock. Always about 2-3°C difference (Prime95 12K In-place FFT)

Granted, I'm not touching the VRM directly, but the heatsinks aren't really that warm. Thing is, I know it's a 4-phase with average MOSFETs but to get a 6-phase board is like $60 on top of the price of this board for the Gigabyte Gaming 5/Asrock Extreme/Asus Pro. I don't get vdroop on this board unless I go stupid on the voltage (once I get to about 1.44 the VRM heatsinks are uncomfortably warm and there's frequent vdroop) and I do have a fair bit of airflow going over the VRM. Definitely more comfortable running this board with lots of VRM air versus my friend who OC'd his 1700 to 3.8 at auto voltage with an H100 (IE, zero VRM airflow) on his B350 Tomahawk

 

What do you suggest I do if the board OC isn't comfy by your definition?

[just_dave]

4 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Granted, I'm not touching the VRM directly, but the heatsinks aren't really that warm. Thing is, I know it's a 4-phase with average MOSFETs but to get a 6-phase board is like $60 on top of the price of this board for the Gigabyte Gaming 5/Asrock Extreme/Asus Pro. I don't get vdroop on this board unless I go stupid on the voltage (once I get to about 1.44 the VRM heatsinks are uncomfortably warm and there's frequent vdroop) and I do have a fair bit of airflow going over the VRM. 

 

What do you suggest I do if the board OC isn't comfy by your definition?

Check the photo i added to the post above.

Since youre a PSU senpai, you most likely know AluPol's lifespan calculation at different temps when you know rated hours and rated temperature.

Putting 8 core on that board is a bad idea and having it at such crazy overclocks is a madness.

R7 at such clocks eats over 150W, hence my R5 1600 at 1.4V 3.975GHz pulls 85A with P95 12K In-place FFTs

[just_dave]

6 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Definitely more comfortable running this board with lots of VRM air versus my friend who OC'd his 1700 to 3.8 at auto voltage with an H100 (IE, zero VRM airflow) on his B350 Tomahawk

Did his house go up in flames ?

[STRMfrmXMN]

Just now, dave_k said:

Check the photo i added to the post above.

Since youre a PSU senpai, you most likely know AluPol's lifespan calculation at different temps when you know rated hours and rated temperature.

Putting 8 core on that board is a bad idea and having it at such crazy overclocks is a madness.

I saw it, yeah. The heatsinks are hitting 120C for you? 

 

It's not that I don't believe you and I don't have any test equipment to measure the VRM heatsink temperature, but it's comfortable and cool to the touch running Cinebench. Keep in mind I'm using a voltage offset and having the core voltage drop to about 1.36 when not under load. I did buy this board in a panic because my old system failed due to a power surge and wanted a board I knew would just work. Definitely will be lowering the OC or running stock if the board would suffer long-term. Alternatively, I could blow up the VRM and get a Taichi in a few months.....? Hmmmm....  

 

And no, I'm not familiar with the lifespan calculator. Searching for AluPol in Google doesn't bring up much. Mind explaining it to me?

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

Did his house go up in flames ?

Not yet..... I did tell him not to buy that board and also not to run it at auto voltage. I'd be willing to bet he's hitting 1.5V and doesn't know the consequences. Then again, this is the guy who bought an Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD to spite me because I told him a SATA SSD would be more than enough for him and would be cheaper. He bought it because it bothered me just how much money he was wasting by buying it over an 850 EVO or the like. He also bought an EVGA NEX because "the PSU doesn't affect performance" when a GQ was like $3 more when he bought his PSU.

 

He made mistakes, but he's young and isn't willing to admit when he's wrong. I can't change him.