Will supersampling help eliminate bottlenecking? (i5 4570 + GTX 1070)

[RalphGoesToSpace]

Hey Guys,

So currently I'm thinking of upgrading my GTX 770 to a 1070, however since my current CPU is the i5 4570 I am worrying that it is not strong enough and might produce some slight bottlenecking.

I've been watching some videos from people uploading gameplay videos with similar specs and checking out how it performs on their systems. 

Seeing that there seems to be some bottlenecking in many games @1080p I was wondering if using some supersampling technology to render @1440p while still being on the same 1080p monitor would help eliminate this problem?

I am thinking of upgrading to a 4790k or maybe Ryzen 5 down the line but for now I think the GPU upgrade seems much more important, this 770 is definitely showing it's age by now.

Would appreciate any opinions and input on this matter, cheers!
 

[ARikozuM]

What kind of bottlenecking are we talking here? Like 5Hz or 50Hz? If it's 5 and only in a few games, don't bother upgrading unless you're moving to the hexa-cores as the i7-4790K is overpriced ($330).

[Dankk]

I don't think so it will probably make the bottleneck even worse try bumping up the resolution so you have lower frames but more stability.

[RalphGoesToSpace]

Just now, Dankk said:

I don't think so it will probably make the bottleneck even worse try bumping up the resolution so you have lower frames but more stability.

Yes, what I'm wondering is if I have a 1080p monitor is there any way I can render the game at 1440p but this be playing at 1080p?

 

I have heard something like Supersampling does this. 

 

I've seen that since higher resolutions are much more GPU bound the CPU gets less of a hit so there is less of a bottleneck.

[Dankk]

1 minute ago, RalphGoesToSpace said:

Yes, what I'm wondering is if I have a 1080p monitor is there any way I can render the game at 1440p but this be playing at 1080p?

 

I have heard something like Supersampling does this. 

 

I've seen that since higher resolutions are much more GPU bound the CPU gets less of a hit so there is less of a bottleneck.

I don't have your system but from my rig supersampling only effects my GPU.

[ARikozuM]

10 minutes ago, RalphGoesToSpace said:

Yes, what I'm wondering is if I have a 1080p monitor is there any way I can render the game at 1440p but this be playing at 1080p?

You go into Nvidia Control Panel and increase the resolution per game using DSR. 

[RalphGoesToSpace]

1 minute ago, ARikozuM said:

You go into Nvidia Control Panel and increase the resolution per game using DSR. 

But do you think this would alleviate bottlenecking ?

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, RalphGoesToSpace said:

But do you think this would alleviate bottlenecking ?

Increasing resolution will alleviate the bottleneck, but you'll be getting less Hz afterwards. The trade-off isn't worth it if you're only trying to hunt for the bottleneck. 

[RalphGoesToSpace]

49 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Increasing resolution will alleviate the bottleneck, but you'll be getting less Hz afterwards. The trade-off isn't worth it if you're only trying to hunt for the bottleneck. 

Yes, what I am trying to achieve is to get the best possible experience @60hz on ultra settings @1080p without stuttering or anything bothersome.

 

Getting the 1070 at this resolution because I'm planning on keeping it for a good while.

 

Maybe I'm just being a little paranoid. lol

[ARikozuM]

8 minutes ago, RalphGoesToSpace said:

Yes, what I am trying to achieve is to get the best possible experience @60hz on ultra settings @1080p without stuttering or anything bothersome.

 

Getting the 1070 at this resolution because I'm planning on keeping it for a good while.

 

Maybe I'm just being a little paranoid. lol

Just let the thing work at 1080 Ultra with uncapped frame-rate. Tearing shouldn't occur, but you can always just set V-Sync.

[Nord]

IF what you are aiming for is a locked 60-70 FPS experiance, the CPU will (in most games) still do the trick.

 

just watch this for reference:

 

Your CPU is not on there, but I dont imagine it would be doing worse than an 2600k.

For the GPU a Titan X (maxwell) is just a bit weaker than a 1070, so this should be a somewhat reliable baseline for you.

 

 

Will your CPU hold you back sometimes, outside of engine limiations? Yes, it will.
But as long as you dont shoot for above 70FPS, you will not really notice it much.
Unless you really like CPU heavy games, like GTA5 or Tombraider, there I could imagine the CPU could be the cause of dips below 60FPS, sometimes.

 

You can always aim to OC the CPU - even if its not a K version, if you got a board that supports overclocking you can usualy even push even non-K CPU's to around 4 GHZ.

Alternatively higher clocked RAM, 1866mhz+ could increase FPS too.

 

 

 

But to also answer your question with supersampling and such, this will not effect the bottlnecking itself, it will just put "more stress" on the GPU, resulting in better quality but lower FPS.

 

Bottom line, I see no problem pairing this CPU with a 1070.

Just look at notebooks, they get 1070's & 1080's with CPU's that are just now around the "power" an overclocked desktop I7 2600 or 3770 would be and still do fine.

[RalphGoesToSpace]

1 hour ago, Nord said:

IF what you are aiming for is a locked 60-70 FPS experiance, the CPU will (in most games) still do the trick.

 

just watch this for reference:

 

Your CPU is not on there, but I dont imagine it would be doing worse than an 2600k.

For the GPU a Titan X (maxwell) is just a bit weaker than a 1070, so this should be a somewhat reliable baseline for you.

 

 

Will your CPU hold you back sometimes, outside of engine limiations? Yes, it will.
But as long as you dont shoot for above 70FPS, you will not really notice it much.
Unless you really like CPU heavy games, like GTA5 or Tombraider, there I could imagine the CPU could be the cause of dips below 60FPS, sometimes.

 

You can always aim to OC the CPU - even if its not a K version, if you got a board that supports overclocking you can usualy even push even non-K CPU's to around 4 GHZ.

Alternatively higher clocked RAM, 1866mhz+ could increase FPS too.

 

 

 

But to also answer your question with supersampling and such, this will not effect the bottlnecking itself, it will just put "more stress" on the GPU, resulting in better quality but lower FPS.

 

Bottom line, I see no problem pairing this CPU with a 1070.

Just look at notebooks, they get 1070's & 1080's with CPU's that are just now around the "power" an overclocked desktop I7 2600 or 3770 would be and still do fine.

Awesome, thanks!