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Hi, so recently I've been having trouble with my GPU, gtx 1080. Yesterday I was trying to stream and for some reason my game kept giving me a message saying "rendering device has been lost". My friends recommended I install MSI afterburner to see what was going on and I found that my GPU clock was too high for what I was doing.  
 

When my computer just turned on, the GPU usage was at 30% and continued there (im running a 2 monitor setup one 1080p 60hz and the other is 1080p 144hz both 24in). When I was mid Overwatch game the GPU usage jumped to 75-85%. I originally thought it was thermal throttling but currently my GPU is a cool 30 degrees and wont get higher than 50 so I don't think that's possible either.

 

Someone please help me!

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1. How are you streaming (Xsplit, OBS, Shadowplay, etc.)? Is that program fully up to date?? Are you using NVENC or h264 encoding?

 

2. Are you drivers up to date? Did you use Display Driver Uninstaller to clean out all old Nvidia driver stuff before doing a clean reinstall of the newest drivers?

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Assuming you're running 144Hz on the desktop and not just in games, the Nvidia driver is retarded and doesn't like some 144Hz monitors, it can cause it to sometimes not downclock properly when the card is idle or just doing menial crap like browsing the internet. See if the core and memory clocks change when you switch from 144Hz to 60Hz.

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9 minutes ago, HunterAP said:

1. How are you streaming (Xsplit, OBS, Shadowplay, etc.)? Is that program fully up to date?? Are you using NVENC or h264 encoding?

 

2. Are you drivers up to date? Did you use Display Driver Uninstaller to clean out all old Nvidia driver stuff before doing a clean reinstall of the newest drivers?

I stream on OBS and I updated everything as soon as I realized there was a problem and I am using NVENC

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4 minutes ago, Cookybiscuit said:

Assuming you're running 144Hz on the desktop and not just in games, the Nvidia driver is retarded and doesn't like some 144Hz monitors, it can cause it to sometimes not downclock properly when the card is idle or just doing menial crap like browsing the internet. See if the core and memory clocks change when you switch from 144Hz to 60Hz.

I restarted and the idle usage is 1-6% but the gaming is still in the 70s - 80s

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37 minutes ago, Extremematt52 said:

I restarted and the idle usage is 1-6% but the gaming is still in the 70s - 80s

Having a high GPU usage in games is a good thing, not bad. The closer to 99% usage you are, the more you are benefiting from your GPU.

 

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Just now, Frankenburger said:

Having a high GPU usage in games is a good thing, not bad. The closer to 99% usage you are, the more you are benefiting from your GPU.

I dont mind the high GPU usage but I wanted to upgrade my monitor to a 2k 144hz monitor because I knew my 1080 could handle it but if Overwatch is crashing at 1080p 144fps then I don't think thats a good thing

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1 minute ago, Extremematt52 said:

I dont mind the high GPU usage but I wanted to upgrade my monitor to a 2k 144hz monitor because I knew my 1080 could handle it but if Overwatch is crashing at 1080p 144fps then I don't think thats a good thing

Crashes aren't caused by high GPU usages though. If Overwatch is crashing, that's a different issue entirely.

 

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Just now, Frankenburger said:

Crashes aren't caused by high GPU usages though. If Overwatch is crashing, that's a different issue entirely.

Actually it was a GPU because it said "rendering device lost" and I was watching MSI afterburner when it happened. I was mid game and the GPU was at 98 percent then suddenly I recieve a "rendering device lost" message and the game closes

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6 minutes ago, Extremematt52 said:

Actually it was a GPU because it said "rendering device lost" and I was watching MSI afterburner when it happened. I was mid game and the GPU was at 98 percent then suddenly I recieve a "rendering device lost" message and the game closes

I'm not saying it isn't your GPU. What I'm saying is you're not crashing due to high usage. There's clearly something else going on. Maybe you have a bad card, or maybe a driver didn't install correctly. But having 98% usage isn't going to crash your system on its own. GPUs are supposed to run with high usage. That's what they're designed to do.

 

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6 minutes ago, Frankenburger said:

I'm not saying it isn't your GPU. What I'm saying is you're not crashing due to high usage. There's clearly something else going on. Maybe you have a bad card, or maybe a driver didn't install correctly. But having 98% usage isn't going to crash your system on its own. GPUs are supposed to run with high usage. That's what they're designed to do.

Well that's why I was asking. I wanted to see if it's software or hardware that's the problem 

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13 minutes ago, Frankenburger said:

GPUs are supposed to run with high usage. That's what they're designed to do.

As long as you're not trying to sync or cap your fps to your refresh rate to keep temps and fans lower :P 

 

 

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How about some diag? Run heaven and have monitoring programs up on the other screen. Wait for a crash. If it doesn't, donthr same with a game. Will be simple to see what's going on. If it does crash, do a clean install of the drivers. 

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I herd this a lot at launch of overwatch, not sure if they fixed it but for some reason people were saying that they had to up there fan speed because overwatch would kill them game at a certain GPU temp some said it was drivers issues so maybe look at them, try running the game with the fans @100% and see if the error comes agian, also gpu usage is not really a issue, just means gpu is working now if it was 100% usage all the time there may be a issue, I don’t think the crashing is because of usage ir the GPU it’s self, more likely a software issue 

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5 minutes ago, Brett_Bst said:

I herd this a lot at launch of overwatch, not sure if they fixed it but for some reason people were saying that they had to up there fan speed because overwatch would kill them game at a certain GPU temp some said it was drivers issues so maybe look at them, try running the game with the fans @100% and see if the error comes agian, also gpu usage is not really a issue, just means gpu is working now if it was 100% usage all the time there may be a issue, I don’t think the crashing is because of usage ir the GPU it’s self, more likely a software issue 

That's releaving to hear. I did try that and I didn't get an error message when I played this morning but my GPU never got that hot. 60 degrees is the highest I've seen it at

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15 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

As long as you're not trying to sync or cap your fps to your refresh rate to keep temps and fans lower :P 

 

 

And what if my games are capping the fps? Because overwatch is capping my FPS at the monitors refresh rate and same with all my other games

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Just now, Extremematt52 said:

And what if my games are capping the fps? Because overwatch is capping my FPS at the monitors refresh rate and same with all my other games

Check to see if you don't have any sync enable in-game settings and the nvidia control panel settings, making sure vertical sync is disable and maybe even enabling Fastsync on nVidia control panels would be ways to ensure nothing is being cap.

 

Certain games though like CS:GO as far as I am concerned needs some console command to remove artificial capping set in the game.

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17 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

How about some diag? Run heaven and have monitoring programs up on the other screen. Wait for a crash. If it doesn't, donthr same with a game. Will be simple to see what's going on. If it does crash, do a clean install of the drivers. 

I did some benchmarks and didn't have a problem so I guess I'm okay then? I havnt tried streaming since the problem came up so I don't know

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17 minutes ago, Extremematt52 said:

Well that's why I was asking. I wanted to see if it's software or hardware that's the problem 

There's a few things you can try

 

  1. Try a different video card
  2. Reinstall your GPU drivers using the clean install method or DDU
  3. Test for crashes in other games/benchmarks
  4. Reinstall Windows
  5. Reset all overclocks to stock (if applicable)

If 1-2 works, then your drivers are bad or you have a bad GTX 1080. If 2-5 doesn't work, then you probably have a bad GTX 1080.

 

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Check to see if you don't have any sync enable in-game settings and the nvidia control panel settings, making sure vertical sync is disable and maybe even enabling Fastsync on nVidia control panels would be ways to ensure nothing is being cap.

 

Certain games though like CS:GO as far as I am concerned needs some console command to remove artificial capping set in the game.

I always disable vsync and all syncs are off so thats probably not it

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2 minutes ago, Frankenburger said:

There's a few things you can try

 

  1. Try a different video card
  2. Reinstall your GPU drivers using the clean install method or DDU
  3. Test for crashes in other games/benchmarks
  4. Reinstall Windows
  5. Reset all overclocks to stock (if applicable)

If 1-2 works, then your drivers are bad or you have a bad GTX 1080. If 2-5 doesn't work, then you probably have a bad GTX 1080.

This is alot more helpful than tech support. Thank you!

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Just now, Extremematt52 said:

This is alot more helpful than tech support. Thank you!

You're welcome, and good luck :D

 

Also, in addendum, if you don't get crashes by testing other games/benchmarks, then it's an Overwatch issue.

 

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