ITX vs Pre-Built

[Shiruxriu]

It's been a very long time since I have posted and kept a topic going so this is going to be a bit of a toughy to re-tread. Suffice to say I am planning to make a gaming server, and recently Linus put out a video on the MSI Vortex G25. Seeing his video reminded me of my server build project but I soon realized that I had no idea where to go from there.

 

Basically here is the gist:

Budget: $3000 USD

Purpose of Build: A gaming server for games such as Rust, Ark: Survival Evolved, Subnautica, The Forest to name a few.

Requirements: Components need to be selected with the intent to run a 50 player server. Preferably in a mini-ATX to ITX Form Factor.

OS: Likely will be a tested distribution of Linux, known to be compatible with at least 3 of the above mentioned games.

Bias: Personally I have no bias in purchasing computer parts and thus want to hear opinions solidified by facts, specs, and experiences.

Peripherals: These can be suggested and are exempt from the budget but keep it reasonably priced for the avg. consumer.

Display: Again, exempt from the budget but keep it reasonably priced for the avg. consumer.

Noteworthy points: I don't have terribly much experience in the server software end but have 2-3 year networking experience and have run many dedicated servers in the past. 

Another Question needing an answer: Is building my own server preferable to purchasing the MSI Vortex for a gaming server? Or should I bite the bullet and buy the vortex?

 

Thank you to the community for any help on this build and it's planning.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($959.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X399-A EATX TR4 Motherboard  ($331.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3333 Memory  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($289.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($84.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB Video Card  ($404.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($244.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G413 Carbon Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($83.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($49.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $3044.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-03 19:36 EDT-0400

[Shiruxriu]

5 hours ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($959.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S TR4-SP3 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X399-A EATX TR4 Motherboard  ($331.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3333 Memory  ($409.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($289.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - IronWolf 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($84.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB Video Card  ($404.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer - XF240H 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor  ($244.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Logitech - G413 Carbon Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($83.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse  ($49.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $3044.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-03 19:36 EDT-0400

My biggest Questions on this build are, Is the video card really necessary? Is there no way to get a threadripper into an ITX or mini-ATX case? Why the RGB Memory? And Why 5900 RPM and not 7200 or higher when at greater sizes at similar price?

[brob]

@Shiruxriu

 

Tough to get a newish mini-ITX motherboard that will support 8+ core cpu.

 

X299 doesn't have any Xeon cpu, but it supports a broad range of cpu from 6 - 18 cores on the motherboard listed.

 

I suspect an 8 hyperthreaded core cpu will be sufficient, but there is lots of room in the budget for something more powerful. The system doesn't include a gpu. One would be required to get the box up and running on a network. After it can be run headless. Which would allow for a additional network resources through an expansion card.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($559.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($63.75 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X299E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($399.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance Performance 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($569.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($511.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2260.69
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-04 03:39 EDT-0400

[Ordinarily_Greater]

7 hours ago, Shiruxriu said:

My biggest Questions on this build are, Is the video card really necessary? Is there no way to get a threadripper into an ITX or mini-ATX case? Why the RGB Memory? And Why 5900 RPM and not 7200 or higher when at greater sizes at similar price?

For the harddisk yeah i forgot that it is 5900RPM, forgot to change it because it was used to other person

 

The RGB Memory is the one i consider as great, i mean at that price you get those RGB

 

For the Mini-ITX issue i thought you were comparing to a vortex that your server project is using big case, also there are no mini itx X399 boards yet

 

But you get this powerful build and just fits the budget, even tho this is big you said it was going to be a server

[Shiruxriu]

So, I have a few responses:

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3 hours ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

For the harddisk yeah i forgot that it is 5900RPM, forgot to change it because it was used to other person

 

The RGB Memory is the one i consider as great, i mean at that price you get those RGB

 

For the Mini-ITX issue i thought you were comparing to a vortex that your server project is using big case, also there are no mini itx X399 boards yet

 

But you get this powerful build and just fits the budget, even tho this is big you said it was going to be a server

 

So ideally this is a gaming server with an emphasis on server, yes, Threadripper does not have an ITX or mATX solution, but an EATX board is too much in size. I'm still wondering if  the Vega Card is going to be useful beyond the initial server setup, considering it's rarity to obtain, and it's price to usefulness. Also, it's a server, so RGB is unnecessary and adds to the cost for an option that won't be seen or used. Big is an issue because the server will likely need to sit near my TV for the internet access, and it would be unwieldy to make work. Lastly, I do want your opinion regarding the vortex because it's size is a huge plus, plus the hardware inside. it's RGB is inconsequential and to be honest, I would easily use a hi processing hi ram laptop if I thought it could pull off the job well enough. I do appreciate your build because it clearly emphasizes the Threadripper's strengths, so far this is a huge help for me.

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8 hours ago, brob said:

@Shiruxriu

 

Tough to get a newish mini-ITX motherboard that will support 8+ core cpu.

 

X299 doesn't have any Xeon cpu, but it supports a broad range of cpu from 6 - 18 cores on the motherboard listed.

 

I suspect an 8 hyperthreaded core cpu will be sufficient, but there is lots of room in the budget for something more powerful. The system doesn't include a gpu. One would be required to get the box up and running on a network. After it can be run headless. Which would allow for a additional network resources through an expansion card.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor  ($559.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($63.75 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X299E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2066 Motherboard  ($399.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance Performance 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($569.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($511.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2260.69
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-04 03:39 EDT-0400

 

I like this build and I agree that ITX is incredibly difficult if not impossible. Threadripper doesn't even have an mATX Form factor board.I like this build but I wonder what sort of video card you would then recommend to get it on the network. So far as I can tell otherwise this is a good build but would it be better than the vortex for a gaming server?

[Ordinarily_Greater]

18 minutes ago, Shiruxriu said:

So, I have a few responses:

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So ideally this is a gaming server with an emphasis on server, yes, Threadripper does not have an ITX or mATX solution, but an EATX board is too much in size. I'm still wondering if  the Vega Card is going to be useful beyond the initial server setup, considering it's rarity to obtain, and it's price to usefulness. Also, it's a server, so RGB is unnecessary and adds to the cost for an option that won't be seen or used. Big is an issue because the server will likely need to sit near my TV for the internet access, and it would be unwieldy to make work. Lastly, I do want your opinion regarding the vortex because it's size is a huge plus, plus the hardware inside. it's RGB is inconsequential and to be honest, I would easily use a hi processing hi ram laptop if I thought it could pull off the job well enough. I do appreciate your build because it clearly emphasizes the Threadripper's strengths, so far this is a huge help for me.

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I like this build and I agree that ITX is incredibly difficult if not impossible. Threadripper doesn't even have an mATX Form factor board.I like this build but I wonder what sort of video card you would then recommend to get it on the network. So far as I can tell otherwise this is a good build but would it be better than the vortex for a gaming server?

well if you choose the i9 build it is obviously better than the Vortex (G25 Right?), since it also packs them all horsepower i wouldn't doubt on choosing it (beware you will need at least 240mm AIO cooling to cool that CPU)

[Shiruxriu]

2 hours ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

well if you choose the i9 build it is obviously better than the Vortex (G25 Right?), since it also packs them all horsepower i wouldn't doubt on choosing it (beware you will need at least 240mm AIO cooling to cool that CPU)

By AIO you mean liquid cooler strictly for the CPU or a full board cooler?

[brob]

4 hours ago, Shiruxriu said:

So, I have a few responses:

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So ideally this is a gaming server with an emphasis on server, yes, Threadripper does not have an ITX or mATX solution, but an EATX board is too much in size. I'm still wondering if  the Vega Card is going to be useful beyond the initial server setup, considering it's rarity to obtain, and it's price to usefulness. Also, it's a server, so RGB is unnecessary and adds to the cost for an option that won't be seen or used. Big is an issue because the server will likely need to sit near my TV for the internet access, and it would be unwieldy to make work. Lastly, I do want your opinion regarding the vortex because it's size is a huge plus, plus the hardware inside. it's RGB is inconsequential and to be honest, I would easily use a hi processing hi ram laptop if I thought it could pull off the job well enough. I do appreciate your build because it clearly emphasizes the Threadripper's strengths, so far this is a huge help for me.

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I like this build and I agree that ITX is incredibly difficult if not impossible. Threadripper doesn't even have an mATX Form factor board.I like this build but I wonder what sort of video card you would then recommend to get it on the network. So far as I can tell otherwise this is a good build but would it be better than the vortex for a gaming server?

 

If you can't borrow a gpu from another system for the brief time it will take to get the box working on the network, grab something inexpensive. Perhaps a GT 1030 or RX 550. 

 

The Vortex uses an i7-7700K cpu - four hyperthreaded cores. Which is where the X299 cpu start off.

 

3 hours ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

well if you choose the i9 build it is obviously better than the Vortex (G25 Right?), since it also packs them all horsepower i wouldn't doubt on choosing it (beware you will need at least 240mm AIO cooling to cool that CPU)

 According to Noctua the NH-U14S can provide modest obervcockig on 165W cpu. See http://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide

[Shiruxriu]

3 minutes ago, brob said:

 

If you can't borrow a gpu from another system for the brief time it will take to get the box working on the network, grab something inexpensive. Perhaps a GT 1030 or RX 550. 

 

The Vortex uses an i7-7700K cpu - four hyperthreaded cores. Which is where the X299 cpu start off.

 

 According to Noctua the NH-U14S can provide modest obervcockig on 165W cpu. See http://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide

So yes, According to Noctua, it looks like their cooler has little to no overclocking room for the above mentioned CPU, but in truth that is fine, I don't think overclocking in a server will really help all that much. Am I mistaken?

[brob]

7 minutes ago, Shiruxriu said:

So yes, According to Noctua, it looks like their cooler has little to no overclocking room for the above mentioned CPU, but in truth that is fine, I don't think overclocking in a server will really help all that much. Am I mistaken?

No, you are not mistaken. 

[Shiruxriu]

Just now, brob said:

No, you are not mistaken. 

For the board too, wouldn't more RAM be preferable in a server system? If so is that a limitation of the board form factor?

 

I should Specify I mean 8 RAM slots instead of 4.

 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 hour ago, brob said:

 According to Noctua the NH-U14S can provide modest obervcockig on 165W cpu. See http://noctua.at/en/tdp-guide

never knew this, well i guess since i am a fan to the brand i will go for this fan 

[Ordinarily_Greater]

3 hours ago, Shiruxriu said:

By AIO you mean liquid cooler strictly for the CPU or a full board cooler?

for the CPU only

[brob]

3 hours ago, Shiruxriu said:

For the board too, wouldn't more RAM be preferable in a server system? If so is that a limitation of the board form factor?

 

I should Specify I mean 8 RAM slots instead of 4.

 

Yes, having only 4 memory slots can be limiting for a server. But not all servers need huge amounts of memory.

[Shiruxriu]

Just now, brob said:

Yes, having only 4 memory slots can be limiting for a server. But not all servers need huge amounts of memory.

Spoiler

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvtR2R) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvtR2R/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C2dFf7/intel-i7-7820x-36ghz-8-core-processor-bx80673i77820x) | $559.99 @ Amazon 
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15) | $88.88 @ OutletPC 
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - X299E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2066 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9FWrxr/asrock-x299e-itxac-mini-itx-lga2066-motherboard-x299e-itxac) | $398.91 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance Performance 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nJM323/corsair-vengeance-performance-64gb-4-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmsx64gx4m4a2400c16) | $569.99 @ Newegg 
**Storage** | [Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HWrcCJ/crucial-mx300-20tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct2050mx300ssd1) | $511.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Storage** | [Seagate - IronWolf Pro 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TwDzK8/seagate-ironwolf-pro-10tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st10000ne0004) | $399.91 @ Newegg Marketplace 
**Video Card** | [NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Founders Edition Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GVFXsY/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-founders-edition-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-founders-edition) | $399.90 @ Amazon 
**Case** | [Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BWFPxr/fractal-design-case-fdcanode304bl) | $59.99 @ Newegg 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHCwrH/corsair-power-supply-ax860i) | $196.98 @ Amazon 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3196.54
 | Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
 | **Total** | **$3186.54**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-11-04 20:41 EDT-0400 |

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvtR2R

Thoughts?

[brob]

4 minutes ago, Shiruxriu said:

  Reveal hidden contents

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvtR2R) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvtR2R/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/C2dFf7/intel-i7-7820x-36ghz-8-core-processor-bx80673i77820x) | $559.99 @ Amazon 
**CPU Cooler** | [Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15) | $88.88 @ OutletPC 
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - X299E-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA2066 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9FWrxr/asrock-x299e-itxac-mini-itx-lga2066-motherboard-x299e-itxac) | $398.91 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance Performance 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nJM323/corsair-vengeance-performance-64gb-4-x-16gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmsx64gx4m4a2400c16) | $569.99 @ Newegg 
**Storage** | [Crucial - MX300 2.0TB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HWrcCJ/crucial-mx300-20tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct2050mx300ssd1) | $511.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Storage** | [Seagate - IronWolf Pro 10TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TwDzK8/seagate-ironwolf-pro-10tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st10000ne0004) | $399.91 @ Newegg Marketplace 
**Video Card** | [NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Founders Edition Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GVFXsY/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-founders-edition-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-founders-edition) | $399.90 @ Amazon 
**Case** | [Fractal Design - Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BWFPxr/fractal-design-case-fdcanode304bl) | $59.99 @ Newegg 
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHCwrH/corsair-power-supply-ax860i) | $196.98 @ Amazon 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $3196.54
 | Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
 | **Total** | **$3186.54**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-11-04 20:41 EDT-0400 |

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nvtR2R

Thoughts?

You might email Noctua to ask about compatibility of the NH-D15 with the ASRock X299E-ITX/ac motherboard. The motherboard has an unusual layout.

[Shiruxriu]

27 minutes ago, brob said:

You might email Noctua to ask about compatibility of the NH-D15 with the ASRock X299E-ITX/ac motherboard. The motherboard has an unusual layout.

Fair point but thoughts otherwise, does this look like good gaming server for 50 players on say Rust?

 

[brob]

5 minutes ago, Shiruxriu said:

Fair point but thoughts otherwise, does this look like good gaming server for 50 players on say Rust?

 

Should not be a problem.

 

[Shiruxriu]

3 minutes ago, brob said:

Should not be a problem.

 

Okay, I contacted Noctua about the NH-d15 cooler, to see if it's compatible so fingers crossed. And hey, this did help me design an over the top and excessive computer design for pc gaming and recording. I am curious, do you think air cooling will be enough or should I change the config for an AIO cooler? Also I couldn't put the secondary choice in pcpartpicker because it's not there but any thoughts on the Fractal Design Node 804?

 

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-804

[brob]

1 minute ago, Shiruxriu said:

Okay, I contacted Noctua about the NH-d15 cooler, to see if it's compatible so fingers crossed. And hey, this did help me design an over the top and excessive computer design for pc gaming and recording. I am curious, do you think air cooling will be enough or should I change the config for an AIO cooler? Also I couldn't put the secondary choice in pcpartpicker because it's not there but any thoughts on the Fractal Design Node 804?

 

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-804

The 804 is an mATX enclosure so you could change to an mATX motherboard. But you would have to change the cpu cooler as the cpu cooler height limit is 160mm.

[Shiruxriu]

7 minutes ago, brob said:

The 804 is an mATX enclosure so you could change to an mATX motherboard. But you would have to change the cpu cooler as the cpu cooler height limit is 160mm.

So yes the cooler is a problem given a standard Noctua fan, and frankly I would try to get the optimal cooling if I could, I'm not opposed to an AIO cooler, but I am wondering if due to compatibility with the board and case space, would an AIO cooler be better, especially during the initial CPU setup since extreme core processors are known to have bad voltage setting on most motherboards that cause them to improperly stock clock or improperly overclock. Also the Noctua cooler is sufficient size if without a fan that extends it by the extra 15mm all around.

[brob]

4 minutes ago, Shiruxriu said:

So yes the cooler is a problem given a standard Noctua fan, and frankly I would try to get the optimal cooling if I could, I'm not opposed to an AIO cooler, but I am wondering if due to compatibility with the board and case space, would an AIO cooler be better, especially during the initial CPU setup since extreme core processors are known to have bad voltage setting on most motherboards that cause them to improperly stock clock or improperly overclock. Also the Noctua cooler is sufficient size if without a fan that extends it by the extra 15mm all around.

If you move to the 804 I would suggest an aio.

[Shiruxriu]

55 minutes ago, brob said:

If you move to the 804 I would suggest an aio.

What kind of AIO? I'm not familiar with Coolers in that department.And even x299 is an unfamiliar temperature platform for me.

[brob]

11 hours ago, Shiruxriu said:

What kind of AIO? I'm not familiar with Coolers in that department.And even x299 is an unfamiliar temperature platform for me.

Kraken x62 rev 2 or H110i v2 are decent choices and I believe should fit in the Node 804.