First Build Help & Advice Needed

[Ben Timover]

Hello,

I'm looking forward to building a new build. But I'm not sure where to start. I'm new to all these, but I've seen enough 'How to build a PC' tutorials to be confident enough I won't screw something over. Could you guys build me a ITX machine? My budget is $600, and I'm in the States. No need for Windows as I can get Education for free. 

Tasks:

• Just basics (ex. Web-Browsing, Netflix, HBO)
• Photoshop & Lightroom 
  • Usually use it whenever I go out to shoot. So probably like every few months out there.
• Gaming
  • Light Gaming since I'm a Uni student & and I work on the weeknds 
  • CS:GO, Overwatch, Battlegrounds, League, and maybe any new games that interest me, or is hyped up
  • I only have a 1080p, 60 Hz monitor, so it doesn't have to be amazing graphics. I'm use to shitty graphics by now

That's about all I can think of at the moment. But yea, any advice and help would be nice.

 

Also, I had a question regarding these two:

• Is it a good deal?
• https://sacramento.craigslist.org/sop/d/amd-ryzen-1500x-cpu-and/6348055778.html
• https://sacramento.craigslist.org/sop/d/gaming-rig-parts/6351888260.html
  • Not itx, but if its a good deal, might sacrifice the small form factor for it 

[Ben Timover]

So? No one can help me out?

[TraskJ]

1 minute ago, Ben Timover said:

So? No one can help me out?

I got you fam. Gimme a minute to part everything out. 

[Misanthrope]

This budget is tough for ITX because most of the fancier ITX cases require more expensive cases and PSUs for the SFX form factor so you'd be looking at something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($127.39 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($40.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($35.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $585.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 12:07 EDT-0400

 

However if you're willing to be flexible and go with somewhat compact matx for example options open up on your price range:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.33 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($40.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $601.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 12:12 EDT-0400

 

At this budget but on matx you're looking at a far more capable CPU with 4 cores 8 threads. Ryzen is slower than most intel chips on games but the alternative would be a used 6700 (non k) that you can find on the cheap, specially once coffee lake CPUs are back in stock and people are flipping their Skys and kabis. Plus it's really nothing that you'll ever notice on 1080p 60 fps on the games you mention or even AA games (it only really shows when above 100fps then Ryzen is noticeable slower)

 

 

 

 

[TraskJ]

29 minutes ago, Ben Timover said:

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F4xMzM 

It says there are potential incompatibilities because I chose an H110 board instead of a B250. The H110 should come with the updated BIOS, but if you don't want to risk it then go ahead and pick up a B250 board. It'll cost slightly more though. 

[TraskJ]

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

This budget is tough for ITX because most of the fancier ITX cases require more expensive cases and PSUs for the SFX form factor so you'd be looking at something like this:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($127.39 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($40.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($35.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $585.10
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 12:07 EDT-0400

 

However if you're willing to be flexible and go with somewhat compact matx for example options open up on your price range:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.33 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($40.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $601.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 12:12 EDT-0400

 

At this budget but on matx you're looking at a far more capable CPU with 4 cores 8 threads. Ryzen is slower than most intel chips on games but the alternative would be a used 6700 (non k) that you can find on the cheap, specially once coffee lake CPUs are back in stock and people are flipping their Skys and kabis. Plus it's really nothing that you'll ever notice on 1080p 60 fps on the games you mention or even AA games (it only really shows when above 100fps then Ryzen is noticeable slower)

 

 

 

 

A 1400 would be way overkill for that GPU. Max Ryzen you would need for a 1050ti would be a R3 1200. Intel's cheaper in this price point still, anyway. It might be worth it to wait for Coffe Lake Pentium chips. They look pretty cool, and they're coming out soonish if you're willing to wait. 

[Misanthrope]

8 minutes ago, TraskJ said:

A 1400 would be way overkill for that GPU. Max Ryzen you would need for a 1050ti would be a R3 1200. Intel's cheaper in this price point still, anyway. It might be worth it to wait for Coffe Lake Pentium chips. They look pretty cool, and they're coming out soonish if you're willing to wait. 

I don't like the idea of a 4/4 chip in late 2017 we already know most new games can use at least 8 threads and intel I just wouldn't recommend right now because there are no cheaper motherboards available.

 

But to adjust for these comments (which I think they're overall fair) if OP is willing to wait I'd source:

 

1) 8400 + a cheap motherboard (Once they become available, might be as late as 2018 but maybe OP can find a deal on a cheaper z370 before that). It's still doable in this price range.

2) Failing that an 8100 on a cheap motherboard and a GPU upgrade to a 1060 (570/580 are far better but price right now still isn't worth it, but it might be once we can actually get cheaper coffee lake motherboards)

3) A 6700 or 7700 on a B250 motherboard. These are a better option if you can find them second hand reliably of course. (This option I did touch upon in my original post)

 

 

[TraskJ]

On 10/20/2017 at 10:22 AM, Misanthrope said:

I don't like the idea of a 4/4 chip in late 2017 we already know most new games can use at least 8 threads and intel I just wouldn't recommend right now because there are no cheaper motherboards available.

 

But to adjust for these comments (which I think they're overall fair) if OP is willing to wait I'd source:

 

1) 8400 + a cheap motherboard (Once they become available, might be as late as 2018 but maybe OP can find a deal on a cheaper z370 before that). It's still doable in this price range.

2) Failing that an 8100 on a cheap motherboard and a GPU upgrade to a 1060 (570/580 are far better but price right now still isn't worth it, but it might be once we can actually get cheaper coffee lake motherboards)

3) A 6700 or 7700 on a B250 motherboard. These are a better option if you can find them second hand reliably of course. (This option I did touch upon in my original post)

 

 

Good points! I agree on all counts.