Opinions on this budget build?

[Mallowpuffs]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($86.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Rosewill - RCX-Z300 CPU Cooler  ($12.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - H270I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($93.51 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX TG (Black/Red) Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 550W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Other: ASUS STRIX 2GB 960 ($100.00)
Total: $735.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 11:20 EDT-0400

 

I am putting a build together for my brother. He will be buying my STRIX 960.

 

He really wants to keep that case. He also really wants an SSD. Looks are important here, that is the reason for the CPU cooler.

 

I'm trying to decide between the Pentium and a Ryzen 1200. Don't know yet.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Note: This is already over budget so please, if anything make it cheaper not more expensive.

[Crunchy Dragon]

I'd probably go for a Ryzen 3 1200, or save up money for a Core i5

[Mallowpuffs]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I'd probably go for a Ryzen 3 1200, or save up money for a Core i5

Saving up is pretty much out of the question. He's getting a PC on November 12th, custom or not.

 

Also note, there is no plan on overclocking. Ever.

 

I'm still looking at the Ryzen though.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Mallowpuffs said:

Saving up is pretty much out of the question. He's getting a PC on November 12th, custom or not.

 

Also note, there is no plan on overclocking. Ever.

 

I'm still looking at the Ryzen though.

In this case, I'd definitely go for the Ryzen

[NTDaws]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hTPPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hTPPs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.94 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $757.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 11:32 EDT-0400

[Tom Cat]

The Pentium will provide better a experience in gaming. How ever if your brother wants to use it for gaming and other things like video editing than go with RYZEN.

[Tom Cat]

2 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hTPPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hTPPs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.94 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $757.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 11:32 EDT-0400

That's actual a really good list.

[NTDaws]

The 960 still has plenty of juice happily

[Mallowpuffs]

8 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

In this case, I'd definitely go for the Ryzen

If you don't mind my asking, why is that? This is the only benchmark I've found that's close to my situation. https://www.techspot.com/review/1463-ryzen-3-gaming/

 

It shows, with a card like a 960, that they perform the same. And the Ryzen costs $40+- more.

4 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hTPPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hTPPs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.94 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $757.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 11:32 EDT-0400

What? It's over budget and has no GPU. Including mine for $100 would put it at almost $900. Unless I'm missing something.

 

Also, this is just for gaming.

 

Thanks.

[NTDaws]

1 minute ago, Mallowpuffs said:

If you don't mind my asking, why is that? This is the only benchmark I've found that's close to my situation. https://www.techspot.com/review/1463-ryzen-3-gaming/

 

It shows, with a card like a 960, that they perform the same. And the Ryzen costs $40+- more.

What? It's over budget and has no GPU. Including mine for $100 would put it at almost $900.

Tell him to save more.

[Mallowpuffs]

Just now, Being Delirious said:

Tell him to save more.

From a few posts back:

 

"Saving up is pretty much out of the question. He's getting a PC on November 12th, custom or not."

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Mallowpuffs said:

If you don't mind my asking, why is that? This is the only benchmark I've found that's close to my situation. https://www.techspot.com/review/1463-ryzen-3-gaming/

 

It shows, with a card like a 960, that they perform the same. And the Ryzen costs $40+- more.

What? It's over budget and has no GPU. Including mine for $100 would put it at almost $900. Unless I'm missing something.

 

Also, this is just for gaming.

 

Thanks.

Ryzen support will last longer(from what I hear)

[NTDaws]

Just now, Mallowpuffs said:

From a few posts back:

 

"Saving up is pretty much out of the question. He's getting a PC on November 12th, custom or not."

Ok but why specifically November 12th, why not the 13th or 14th?

[Mallowpuffs]

1 minute ago, Being Delirious said:

Ok but why specifically November 12th, why not the 13th or 14th?

Lol.

 

It's his Birthday. He already needs it for school so it's not like he could wait another month either way.

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.98 @ Newegg) 
 

heads up, the M12ii is old as hell and missing some important protections, get the corsair CXs instead.

[NTDaws]

Just now, Mallowpuffs said:

Lol.

 

It's his Birthday. He already needs it for school so it's not like he could wait another month either way.

hmm, lemme make some cookies give me a sec.

[Mallowpuffs]

Just now, Being Delirious said:

hmm, lemme make some cookies give me a sec.

Sounds like a plan.

[NTDaws]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wg44xY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wg44xY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.94 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: a graphics card ($100.00)
Total: $665.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 11:46 EDT-0400

[Mallowpuffs]

5 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wg44xY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wg44xY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($128.89 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($111.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.94 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: a graphics card ($100.00)
Total: $665.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 11:46 EDT-0400

Looks very good. Except he really wants a Micro ITX. He only has a small place to put it and loves the Enthoo Evolv TG.

[chub7chub]

10 minutes ago, Mallowpuffs said:

If you don't mind my asking, why is that? This is the only benchmark I've found that's close to my situation. https://www.techspot.com/review/1463-ryzen-3-gaming/

 

It shows, with a card like a 960, that they perform the same. And the Ryzen costs $40+- more.

The Ryzen 1200 comes with the Wraith Stealth cooler. So you can take yours off the list. Based on adding the Pentium and your cooler, the Ryzen is only $10 +-  more than what you have now. Also, let's face it, we all say our PC is just going to be for gaming but in reality we end up using it for other things and that is where the Ryzen will come out ahead. 

[Mallowpuffs]

Just now, chub7chub said:

The Ryzen 1200 comes with the Wraith Stealth cooler. So you can take yours off the list. Based on adding the Pentium and your cooler, the Ryzen is only $10 +-  more than what you have now. Also, let's face it, we all say our PC is just going to be for gaming but in reality we end up using it for other things and that is where the Ryzen will come out ahead. 

Yes, and the reason for the cooler is for looks. The wraith stealth looks alright although I wouldn't surprised if he still wants something with some red.

 

As for "other things", I've had my PC for 2 years and haven't really done anything that a Pentium couldn't handle. Although I guess it is possible.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.29 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($77.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX TG (Black/Red) Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: ASUS STRIX 2GB 960 ($100.00)
Total: $692.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 12:02 EDT-0400

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[Mallowpuffs]

8 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.29 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($108.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($77.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($45.69 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo EVOLV ITX TG (Black/Red) Mini ITX Desktop Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($26.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: ASUS STRIX 2GB 960 ($100.00)
Total: $692.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 12:02 EDT-0400

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Looks great, but "get OS from reddit for $20-30"?

[NTDaws]

7 minutes ago, Mallowpuffs said:

Looks great, but "get OS from reddit for $20-30"?

Yes

[Mallowpuffs]

3 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Yes

Legally? No risk involved?