Workstation'ish build :-)

[JoJoNL]

Hi guys,

I've saved up some euro's for the last few years and now I have about € 2600,- to spend in Germany or the Netherlands.
I already have a 2k monitor and my keyboard and mouse are still fine.
I do a little bit of CAD and rendering, but this machine will be mostly for gaming. I'm quite the casual gamer, so I don't need the 4K and also not interested in 244hz gaming. Hence no 4K screen :-) When it comes to gaming, I'm a boring dad gamer. I like GTA5, the new Quake, CoD WW2, the Middle Earth games, Dishonored, etc.
Nothing too fancy, but this build should keep me comfy for the next 5 years.

I was just wondering if I've got a nice balanced setup here. Thanks in advance.

Intel Core i7 7820X

Asus Prime X299-A Intel X299

32GB DDR4-2400

GTX 1070 (asus strix OC)

512GB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 2280 NVMe

1TB WD RED

850 Watt Corsair HX Series

Corsair Carbide Air 540

 

 

[Jaxzzzzz]

Go with the new coffee lake cpus. If your doing only occasional CAD stuff you dont need to have all that CPU horsepower, not to mention cost.

6C 12T should be plenty.

[JoJoNL]

2 minutes ago, Jaxzzzzz said:

Go with the new coffee lake cpus. If your doing only occasional CAD stuff you dont need to have all that CPU horsepower, not to mention cost.

6C 12T should be plenty.

Thanks, but I like the extra cores for rendering. I'm used to 32 threads at the office, so rather have 16 instead of 12 :-)

[Jaxzzzzz]

Just now, JoJoNL said:

Thanks, but I like the extra cores for rendering. I'm used to 32 threads at the office, so rather have 16 instead of 12 :-)

Thats reasonable, but if your going for the Futureproof idea, 1. go with R7 1700x, and get a 1080 or 1080 ti with the cash you save on CPU. the AM4 platform is going to be supported until 2020 so you can put new CPUs in as they come out as well.

[TurbulentWinds2]

4 minutes ago, JoJoNL said:

Thanks, but I like the extra cores for rendering. I'm used to 32 threads at the office, so rather have 16 instead of 12 :-)

I would go with the newer CPUs simply so you have the option to upgrade in the future.

[TurbulentWinds2]

11 minutes ago, JoJoNL said:

Hi guys,

I've saved up some euro's for the last few years and now I have about € 2600,- to spend in Germany or the Netherlands.
I already have a 2k monitor and my keyboard and mouse are still fine.
I do a little bit of CAD and rendering, but this machine will be mostly for gaming. I'm quite the casual gamer, so I don't need the 4K and also not interested in 244hz gaming. Hence no 4K screen :-) When it comes to gaming, I'm a boring dad gamer. I like GTA5, the new Quake, CoD WW2, the Middle Earth games, Dishonored, etc.
Nothing too fancy, but this build should keep me comfy for the next 5 years.

I was just wondering if I've got a nice balanced setup here. Thanks in advance.

Intel Core i7 7820X

Asus Prime X299-A Intel X299

32GB DDR4-2400

GTX 1070 (asus strix OC)

512GB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 2280 NVMe

1TB WD RED

850 Watt Corsair HX Series

Corsair Carbide Air 540

 

 

What CPU cooler are you using?

[JoJoNL]

Just now, TurbulentWinds2 said:

What CPU cooler are you using?

Cooler Master Hyper 212X

[TurbulentWinds2]

Just now, JoJoNL said:

Cooler Master Hyper 212X

At this price point, you should be water cooling.

[hconverse02]

2 minutes ago, TurbulentWinds2 said:

At this price point, you should be water cooling.

Not necessarily, but since its an x-series chip, that's the reason he should be watercooling.  As for the build, if you really want the extra cores for workload, either make a cheap threadripper build, 1800x/1700 build, or go with mainstream 8th gen i7.

[JoJoNL]

Just now, TurbulentWinds2 said:

At this price point, you should be water cooling.

I envy watercooling... but I just can't get over mixing water and electronics.
Going AMD isn't an option. But maybe there's an 8-core coffee-lake.

[TurbulentWinds2]

4 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Not necessarily, but since its an x-series chip, that's the reason he should be watercooling.  As for the build, if you really want the extra cores for workload, either make a cheap threadripper build, 1800x/1700 build, or go with mainstream 8th gen i7.

For 2600 I'm not listening to an air cooler

[TurbulentWinds2]

4 minutes ago, JoJoNL said:

I envy watercooling... but I just can't get over mixing water and electronics.
Going AMD isn't an option. But maybe there's an 8-core coffee-lake.

It's really fine, just go with an AIO if you don't like to do custom loops

[paddy-stone]

I think your setup is fine how it is, there's really no need to upgrade anything IMO. Save your money until you actually NEED to upgrade.

[JoJoNL]

Thanks guys. I'll look into the AIO watercooling. For rendering I really want the 8 cores (sorry).
AMD isn't an option because I might put in a Quadro card and make a DUALboot (1. Gaming | 2. CAD).

I know there's a way to run both at the same time, but that's a whole other discussion :-).

[brob]

@JoJoNL

 

How is the memory organized? And, what memory modules?

 

850W seems more than excessive - about twice the maximum draw of the listed system.

 

Quadro gpu work just fine with AMD Ryzen cpu.

 

What CAD software is being used?

 

Do you only do cpu rendering?

 

The cpu is 140W TDP. Seriously consider an H100i V2 cpu cooler instead of the Hyper 212 Evo.

 

Why dual boot for running CAD and gaming?

[JoJoNL]

1 minute ago, brob said:

@JoJoNL

 

How is the memory organized? And, what memory modules?

 

850W seems more than excessive - about twice the maximum draw of the listed system.

 

Quadro gpu work just fine with AMD Ryzen cpu.

 

What CAD software is being used?

 

Do you only do cpu rendering?

 

The cpu is 140W TDP. Seriously consider an H100i V2 cpu cooler instead of the Hyper 212 Evo.

 

Why dual boot for running CAD and gaming?

4x 8gb sticks 16GB G.Skill Trident Z CL15.

I picked the 850W because of the GTX and possible Quadro combination.
The solution of combining GTX and Quadro without a dual boot hasn't been tested on AMD yet. So I'm going with what I know works. The dualboot is to safe me some hassle. You can run them both at once and even switch between them while the computer is running using a simple displayportswitcher.

I use Solidworks, Visualize and Blender. So both CPU and GPU rendering. I will look into those AIO coolers. I'm just stuck in the past when it comes to mixing water and electronics.

[Tom Cat]

45 minutes ago, Jaxzzzzz said:

Thats reasonable, but if your going for the Futureproof idea, 1. go with R7 1700x, and get a 1080 or 1080 ti with the cash you save on CPU. the AM4 platform is going to be supported until 2020 so you can put new CPUs in as they come out as well.

No no no, don't say that. I've posted my build before and theirs always that one person to say that there will be support for ryzen till 2020. Please and this goes for any claim, have an official source to back it up. (Not a blog post) An official on record Tweat or anything from AMD. Because I highly dout with the release of zen 2 next year AMD will stick with the same chipset.

[AncientNerd]

2 hours ago, Douglas The Duck said:

No no no, don't say that. I've posted my build before and theirs always that one person to say that there will be support for ryzen till 2020. Please and this goes for any claim, have an official source to back it up. (Not a blog post) An official on record Tweat or anything from AMD. Because I highly dout with the release of zen 2 next year AMD will stick with the same chipset.

Yup, because all they have officially said is that the AM4 socket would be supported until 2020. So by that measure Intel is supporting the 1151 socket through 3 full generations, and maybe 4 since the rumor is that the Ice Lake chips will also use 1151, but no word on the chipset.  So for the people holding AMD up as a paragon and complaining about Intel, pay attention AMD has promised 3 years of the same socket, no word on the chipset support. Intel has delivered 3 years of the same socket with rumors projecting a potential 4th year, with 3 different chipsets and no word on the 4th chipset. So how are these two things different?