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[Gpuprodamnn]

So i will be building my first gaming Pc ever. Didn’t want to spend too much since I don’t really have enough time for gaming so I think a 1000$ PC will get the job done. Already bought gtx 1060 6gb, Ryzen 5 1600, asrock ab350 pro4 ATX and a middle tower case with 3 fans. What else should I get? Maybe the Evga 600w, 1TB HDD, 240gb SSD M.2 and 16gb of ram 2666mhz but what brand or what is compatible with what I already got. Thanks!

 

[Phentos]

I recommend the EVGA 550 G2. Or the 650 G2 if that fits your budget. Both are extremely solid PSUs that will last you for years.

 

A SATA 500GB SSD would provide more value for the money than a 240GB m.2 drive. Speed difference is basically imperceptible for most users as far as gaming is concerned.

 

As for RAM and Ryzen, it can be a bit of effort to get RAM optimized. Unless you get Samsung B-die RAM (this can be expensive), your mileage will vary. I recommend doing some research on this topic. This is a good place to start.

 

A 3000 Mhz kit is highly recommended though, as Ryzen will benefit greatly from that compared to 2666. Thanks to recent microcode updates from AMD, RAM compatibility is a lot better and 2933 is usually always obtainable with most 3000 Mhz RAM, so long as you don't get a cheap kit. 

[Anghammarad]

Asrock usually got compatibility list for supported ram/cpu for their mainboards on the mainboard specific site.

 

If you don't look at that, I found ADATA ram usually working fine for many years now. No matter the brand of board.

[Jurrunio]

NVMe SSDs and SATA SSDs perform similarly as a boot drive. No need to go for expensive NVMe ones. Keep in mind that there are SATA SSDs that fit in M.2 slots, so dont pay more for the same thing.

[Herman Mcpootis]

try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $334.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-29 07:48 EDT-0400

[Gpuprodamnn]

9 minutes ago, Phentos said:

I recommend the EVGA 550 G2. Or the 650 G2 if that fits your budget. Both are extremely solid PSUs that will last you for years.

 

A SATA 500GB SSD would provide more value for the money than a 240GB m.2 drive. Speed difference is basically imperceptible for most users as far as gaming is concerned.

 

As for RAM and Ryzen, it can be a bit of effort to get RAM optimized. Unless you get Samsung B-die RAM (this can be expensive), your mileage will vary. I recommend doing some research on this topic. This is a good place to start.

 

A 3000 Mhz kit is highly recommended though, as Ryzen will benefit greatly from that compared to 2666. Thanks to recent microcode updates from AMD, RAM compatibility is a lot better and 2933 is usually always obtainable with most 3000 Mhz RAM, so long as you don't get a cheap kit. 

I am sorry, I may sound like a complete idiot but on AMD site it says that the ryzen 5 1600 supports 2667 MHz ram max therefore the 2666 kit seems the best. I have no problem paying more for the ram but I just wanted to know if it will change anything. Thanks!

[Gpuprodamnn]

4 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.59 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $334.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-29 07:48 EDT-0400

I hate cables, could you please come up with a M.2 SSD?

[Gpuprodamnn]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

NVMe SSDs and SATA SSDs perform similarly as a boot drive. No need to go for expensive NVMe ones. Keep in mind that there are SATA SSDs that fit in M.2 slots, so dont pay more for the same thing.

Thanks for the info, didn’t know that.

[Gpuprodamnn]

13 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

Asrock usually got compatibility list for supported ram/cpu for their mainboards on the mainboard specific site.

 

If you don't look at that, I found ADATA ram usually working fine for many years now. No matter the brand of board.

Yea, it does but I figured it’s only compatible with the mobo itself not the processor.

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, Gpuprodamnn said:

I hate cables, could you please come up with a M.2 SSD?

there's this, but it costs more. it's not much extra cables for a sata ssd, a PSU sata cable has multiple connectors and the sata cable isn't much to manage anyways.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkwrH/crucial-mx300-275gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd4

[johndms]

4 minutes ago, Gpuprodamnn said:

I am sorry, I may sound like a complete idiot but on AMD site it says that the ryzen 5 1600 supports 2667 MHz ram max therefore the 2666 kit seems the best. I have no problem paying more for the ram but I just wanted to know if it will change anything. Thanks!

2666 will be just fine with your build, but I doubt you'll find the Samsung B-Die everyone loves at less than 3000MHz. The Patriot Viper Elite kit mentioned earlier appears to be Ryzen compatible. I've not heard of that kit before, so I can't offer my opinions on it.

 

I often share a particular YouTube video that shows benchmarks comparing 2666 vs 3200 on a Ryzen 5 1600. It gives fairly good evidence that suggests the difference between 2666 and 3200 isn't as impressive as people may want you to believe. Don't misunderstand me though, there is a difference, but not enough (in my opinion) to warrant spending more than 10% extra on 3200, if you can get 3000, or 2666 for significantly less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOWx5LH4uBo

 

You'll hear many boasting, "Ryzen performs SO MUCH BETTER and gives MASSIVE fps boosts while gaming using high frequency ram," and a lot of talk of Infinity Fabric. While the claims of performance gains regarding Infinity Fabric are true, many tend to blow it all out of proportion. This, unfortunately, leads people to believe they MUST purchase 3200MHz or higher Samsung B-Die because anything less will severely hinder their system. I'll provide a link and allow you and everyone else to form your own opinions. http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4963&title=ryzen-ram-frequency-and-gaming

[Gpuprodamnn]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

there's this, but it costs more. it's not much extra cables for a sata ssd, a PSU sata cable has multiple connectors and the sata cable isn't much to manage anyways.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KXkwrH/crucial-mx300-275gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct275mx300ssd4

Thanks! Also you told me about the 3000mhz memory, but on the AMD site it says that ryzen 5 1600 only supports 2667 MHz. Am I missing something ?

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Gpuprodamnn said:

Thanks! Also you told me about the 3000mhz memory, but on the AMD site it says that ryzen 5 1600 only supports 2667 MHz. Am I missing something ?

you can set the memory to 2933mhz with the motherboard bios.

[johndms]

36 minutes ago, Gpuprodamnn said:

What else should I get? Maybe the Evga 600w

You've been given excellent suggestions for PSUs, but they're fairly high end and costly. I'd like to recommend an equally good quality PSU that's slightly cheaper. Just for the sake of having options. The Corsair CX550M would do nicely. 

[Gpuprodamnn]

4 minutes ago, johndms said:

2666 will be just fine with your build, but I doubt you'll find the Samsung B-Die everyone loves at less than 3000MHz. The Patriot Viper Elite kit mentioned earlier appears to be Ryzen compatible. I've not heard of that kit before, so I can't offer my opinions on it.

 

I often share a particular YouTube video that shows benchmarks comparing 2666 vs 3200 on a Ryzen 5 1600. It gives fairly good evidence that suggests the difference between 2666 and 3200 isn't as impressive as people may want you to believe. Don't misunderstand me though, there is a difference, but not enough (in my opinion) to warrant spending more than 10% extra on 3200, if you can get 3000, or 2666 for significantly less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOWx5LH4uBo

 

You'll hear many boasting, "Ryzen performs SO MUCH BETTER and gives MASSIVE fps boosts while gaming using high frequency ram," and a lot of talk of Infinity Fabric. While the claims of performance gains regarding Infinity Fabric are true, many tend to blow it all out of proportion. This, unfortunately, leads people to believe they MUST purchase 3200MHz or higher Samsung B-Die because anything less will severely hinder their system. I'll provide a link and allow you and everyone else to form your own opinions. http://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4963&title=ryzen-ram-frequency-and-gaming

Thanks! I will be getting 3000mhz for memory probably from Corsair or the G.Skill Ripjaws V. Also I saw that you have almost the exact same build, never mind that gtx 1070 :D. How is it? 

[Phentos]

7 minutes ago, Gpuprodamnn said:

Thanks! Also you told me about the 3000mhz memory, but on the AMD site it says that ryzen 5 1600 only supports 2667 MHz. Am I missing something ?

Ryzen's memory controller supports 2666 by default. However it will work with faster RAM.

 

Any speed over that is considered a memory overclock, which will usually work with Ryzen depending on many factors - such as your motherboard, BIOS, RAM, and (to a lesser extent) your PSU. Enabling a DOCP profile in your BIOS can get you a quick and basic memory overclock which will be of benefit to your performance, though its result pale compared to manually optimized timings and speed.

 

For example my 1700, which also technically supports 2666 by default, works just fine with my very well binned 3200 Mhz RAM at very highly optimized timings (14-14-14-28 at 1T command rate). That being said... my RAM cost me $205, so I had to pay a hefty premium for that. 

[Gpuprodamnn]

3 minutes ago, johndms said:

You've been given excellent suggestions for PSUs, but they're fairly high end and costly. I'd like to recommend an equally good quality PSU that's slightly cheaper. Just for the sake of having options. The Corsair CX550M would do nicely. 

Ohh, I don’t mind spending more as long as it’s a quality product.

[johndms]

Just now, Gpuprodamnn said:

Thanks! I will be getting 3000mhz for memory probably from Corsair or the G.Skill Ripjaws V. Also I saw that you have almost the exact same build, never mind that gtx 1070 :D. How is it? 

I'm satisfied with it for the most part. The kit of ram I have, F4-3000C15D-16GVKB is Hynix M-Die Single Rank and works perfectly on my ASRock board after bios update. I've even overclocked it to 3200MHz at 16-18-18-18-36 timings at 1.4v. I tend to keep it at XMP 2933 though because the performance difference isn't enough, in my opinion.

 

The board is good, but I'd probably not choose it again if I could go back. It's fine with overclocking to 3.8GHz at 1.35v, but it lacks certain bios settings for extra overclocking options. It has no LLC options for CPU voltage control. During load, my 1.35v has dropped to as low as 1.256v (massive vdroop). You also can't change SOC Voltage (used for memory overclocking stability) in the bios. The ASRock AB350 Pro4 is your basic, no-thrills, B350 budget oriented board. It'll overclock some, but don't expect to break 4GHz.

[johndms]

2 minutes ago, johndms said:

The kit of ram I have, F4-3000C15D-16GVKB is Hynix M-Die Single Rank and works perfectly on my ASRock board after bios update.

Adding more to my comment. If I could go back and spend a bit more.. I'd purchase F4-3000C14D-16GVK for $15usd more as it contains Samsung B-Die. Often considered more Ryzen-friendly and overclocks easier/better.

[Gpuprodamnn]

1 minute ago, johndms said:

I'm satisfied with it for the most part. The kit of ram I have, F4-3000C15D-16GVKB is Hynix M-Die Single Rank and works perfectly on my ASRock board after bios update. I've even overclocked it to 3200MHz at 16-18-18-18-36 timings at 1.4v. I tend to keep it at XMP 2933 though because the performance difference isn't enough, in my opinion.

 

The board is good, but I'd probably not choose it again if I could go back. It's fine with overclocking to 3.8GHz at 1.35v, but it lacks certain bios settings for extra overclocking options. It has no LLC options for CPU voltage control. During load, my 1.35v has dropped to as low as 1.256v (massive vdroop). You also can't change SOC Voltage (used for memory overclocking stability) in the bios. The ASRock AB350 Pro4 is your basic, no-thrills, B350 budget oriented board. It'll overclock some, but don't expect to break 4GHz.

Didn’t even think to overclock right now, i think the base speed is enough for now. I will definitely push its limits if I can’t play a certain game, tho that game doesn’t exist right now.