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msi 970 g series mobo

fx 8350 8 core black

16gb corsair vengence ddr3 ram

 

I am currently having problems with thermal limitations on my mobo causing games to crash and hdds to get rather toasty (60+celcius). Aparently this is common with msi 970 and fx series processors (even underclocked. At stock still running at 90-100 celcius under load). I have been looking at upgrading to ryzen series however this is a large expense even for the ryzen 3 and basic components, Not to mention the ryzen 3 barley scrapes the 8350. Is there a mobo out there that is suited better to these chips with an overclock that isnt going to cost me half a ryzen build or turn my pc into an easy bake oven? while i save for a better build.

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8 minutes ago, Callum costa said:

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msi 970 g series mobo

fx 8350 8 core black

16gb corsair vengence ddr3 ram

 

I am currently having problems with thermal limitations on my mobo causing games to crash and hdds to get rather toasty (60+celcius). Aparently this is common with msi 970 and fx series processors (even underclocked. At stock still running at 90-100 celcius under load). I have been looking at upgrading to ryzen series however this is a large expense even for the ryzen 3 and basic components, Not to mention the ryzen 3 barley scrapes the 8350. Is there a mobo out there that is suited better to these chips with an overclock that isnt going to cost me half a ryzen build or turn my pc into an easy bake oven? while i save for a better build.

hey where do you live and what is your budget?

ask me about your system builds, AIO's, CPU's, PSU's, and GPU's.

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Really? Cuz I use a 970a-g43 Mobo and a gtx 660 and an fx6350 and 8gb of ram and I never had any problem with thermals including mobo and hdd...and I use only one case fan as an exhaust...maybe just switch out the motherboard...

P.S. I use a cryorig h7 as cpu cooler...but when I used to use the stock cooler I didn't have that many problems with thermals...try either buying a better cooler or maybe a simple thermal paste will fix it :)

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2 minutes ago, Abdyas2510 said:

Really? Cuz I use a 970a-g43 Mobo and a gtx 660 and an fx6350 and 8gb of ram and I never had any problem with thermals including mobo and hdd...and I use only one case fan as an exhaust...maybe just switch out the motherboard...

P.S. I use a cryorig h7 as cpu cooler...but when I used to use the stock cooler I didn't have that many problems with thermals...try either buying a better cooler or maybe a simple thermal paste will fix it :)

MSI AM3+ had awful VRM, 6 core wont stress them that much, 8 core will

 

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I live in england and budget is as cheap as poss otherwise its nearly half  a £400-£500 ryzen build. I am running a 360 radiator on cpu im gussing ssd is heating up as its mounted on back of mobo tray. Its the vram or  northbridge or both (temp 3 on speed fan) I have push pull on radiator so 6 fans and 1 exaust next to I/O am thinking of putting in a second but want to run almost whisper quiet when not under load. I think it is mobo hence why im asking if anyone has had this problem and if they found a reasonable -£100 mobo that can cope with stock and hopefully some overclock.

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7 hours ago, Callum costa said:

I live in england and budget is as cheap as poss

Look into the used market. You can get pretty good deals on used AM3+ boards in the continent, and I would be surprised if it's not the same in the UK.

 

Other than that, I would add a few ASRock boards to @Strike105X's list:

990FX Extreme 4, Extreme 6, Extreme 9

970 Fatl1ty Peformance, 970A-G/3.1, 990FX Killer

 

The last three are good for some overclock. The 970 Performance can even handle a 9370, but not at stock voltages (which are overkill anyway), so it allows for reasonable 8xxx overclocks. Lack of LLC makes it a less than ideal experience, but it works :P

When overclocking, always add some active VRM cooling if possible.

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I've used every fx motherboard above $100 with 8350, 8370, and even 9590 and have never had any overheating issues.

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37 minutes ago, CaptainSav916 said:

I've used every fx motherboard above $100 with 8350, 8370, and even 9590 and have never had any overheating issues.

Where you water cooling? This seems to be a major issue with am3 series not being designed for it so much 

 

1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

Oh water cooling that further explains how it overheats so badly, generally boards and the VRM area is designed with the idea that the stock fan will cool the surrounding area (including VRM's) as well. But even without overclocking it was seriously bad match, and its almost a fire hazard... i'm sorry but depending on what you choose to do for your CPU there isn't really an alternative apart from those mobo's i mentioned, though i did forget the Asrock Fata1ty 970 Performance, which would get you something between 4.3-4.6Ghz, the board may be capable of more but Asrock's bios tunning isn't very friendly for AMD FX cpu overclocks. Of course if your CPU is voltage hungry and has a high voltage leakage margin you might need some fan cooling for the VRM's even with those boards.

Yh might have been an idea if I'd mentioned that lol. I am running the msi 970 gaming I don't think it's designed well for passive cooling. Will have a look at the few you mentioned. To be quite honest I'd settle for decent temps at stock cpu. Have to say I dropped to 6 cores today and that took it down slightly but still quite poor temps however core never reaches over 45 under load so that's working lol. 

 

1 hour ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Look into the used market. You can get pretty good deals on used AM3+ boards in the continent, and I would be surprised if it's not the same in the UK.

 

Other than that, I would add a few ASRock boards to @Strike105X's list:

990FX Extreme 4, Extreme 6, Extreme 9

970 Fatl1ty Peformance, 970A-G/3.1, 990FX Killer

 

The last three are good for some overclock. The 970 Performance can even handle a 9370, but not at stock voltages (which are overkill anyway), so it allows for reasonable 8xxx overclocks. Lack of LLC makes it a less than ideal experience, but it works :P

When overclocking, always add some active VRM cooling if possible.

I have been looking on eBay and will continue as it seems the most appropriate boards are the top end of £100 almost £200

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On 9/10/2017 at 1:01 PM, Strike105X said:

The cheapest you can get away with usually is the Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P, but i would not recommended for overclocking.

 

For small overclocks (up to 4.3/4.4Ghz) your options are:

 

-Asus M5A97fx R2.0 (DO NOT GET THE LE!)

-Biostar TA990FXE (but i dunno if you can even find it)

-MSI 970 Gaming (if you change your thermal pads and have some fan for the the VRM's you can safely go up to 4.6/4.7Ghz)

 

For better OC results and very good power delivery, plus some extra features there's:

 

-Asus 970 Pro Gaming Aura

-MSI 970A Pro Gaming Carbon

-Asus M5A990fx Pro R2.0

 

There's also the Asus M5A990x Evo R2.0 which is sort of in between the small and good overclocking results. The leader is the Asus Sabertooth 990fx but that's to expensive.

 

I have had a look through so far iv found the Asus 970 pro gaming aura i think i might get. Struggled to find many of the others still for sale. Even the sabertooth didn't have many retailers. I guess there all hitting end of line now with am4 sockets out. If anyone knows of anything else that can actually still be found lol. Any help is Great. 

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1 hour ago, Strike105X said:

The Asus 970 Pro Gaming Aura is an excellent board, you should have no problem getting 4.6Ghz out of your CPU with it, if its a good clocker even more. Power delivery wise (aka VRM's) its a top tier board, one of the best on the market.

VRMS is exactly where I'm having the problem at the moment averaging between 80 at idle and top 90s under load even at stock have changed thermal pads on heatsink and still cooking so I think this might be the way forward 

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