First time build

[N00bi3builder]

Hello forum!

First time builder with a ok-ish budget. Just wanted to get some thoughts from people about the parts I've compiled: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7YMnf8

The goal of the build is to provide a gaming system that is almost top end in terms of stock performance, with the option of learning/implementing OC as time goes on, mainly around when new games starts to demand more out of the system (I know that I've not optimized all the components for OC, but as I said I'll start to get into it and spend money on getting the correct components as opposed to starting another new build).

 

My budget is around ~$2300/£1800 (as I'm in the UK), and I've included the monitor price in that as I'd like a decent monitor instead of using my TV. I should point out that my chosen monitor is the "ASUS VP278H 27 inch" but partpicker didn't have the correct one so I substituted for the moment.

As I said, thoughts and opinions would be appreciated but please be gentle!! First time building with not a lot of technical know how (just whatever I picked up from using google-fu)

 

TY

EDIT:

After taking the feedback onboard, here is a slightly revised parts list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GV3VNN
Any thoughts from people?

 

Also I'd like some opinions about GPU manufacturers. The main reason I ask is that the 'ASUS GeForce GTX 1080Ti Founder's edition' appears to be constantly out of stock here in the UK but the 'Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX 1080Ti' is readily available though costing £25 more. Does the two manufacturers have vastly different quality and reliability? Not very worried about heat exhaust in/out of the case FYI.

 

A point I feel that I should make is that it'll take me about 2-3 months to save up enough money to purchase the components (in one go ideally), so obviously there's the hope that some component prices will drop bringing down costs and also will become available for purchase (which applies to the GPU)

Edited September 5, 2017 by N00bi3builder
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[Marty88]

I think there's a few issues with this build and some things that don't make sense.

The 1080ti is overkill considering the monitor you are thinking of buying (if you are not going to upgrade that in the future.) I would swap that for a 1070 if not and use the money to upgrade ram and CPU cooler

[Changis]

9 minutes ago, N00bi3builder said:

Hello forum!

First time builder with a ok-ish budget. Just wanted to get some thoughts from people about the parts I've compiled: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7YMnf8

The goal of the build is to provide a gaming system that is almost top end in terms of stock performance, with the option of learning/implementing OC as time goes on, mainly around when new games starts to demand more out of the system (I know that I've not optimized all the components for OC, but as I said I'll start to get into it and spend money on getting the correct components as opposed to starting another new build).

 

My budget is around ~$2300/£1800 (as I'm in the UK), and I've included the monitor price in that as I'd like a decent monitor instead of using my TV. I should point out that my chosen monitor is the "ASUS VP278H 27 inch" but partpicker didn't have the correct one so I substituted for the moment.

As I said, thoughts and opinions would be appreciated but please be gentle!! First time building with not a lot of technical know how (just whatever I picked up from using google-fu)

 

TY

maybe spit a bit more in and get a better psu?
look here to find a good psu, go from tier 3 and upwards, the corsair you chose is good but have been demoted due to the fan not being high enough quality.. it's the heart of your computer, don't go for cheapest  atleast that's my advice

 

[Marty88]

24 minutes ago, N00bi3builder said:

Hello forum!

First time builder with a ok-ish budget. Just wanted to get some thoughts from people about the parts I've compiled: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7YMnf8

The goal of the build is to provide a gaming system that is almost top end in terms of stock performance, with the option of learning/implementing OC as time goes on, mainly around when new games starts to demand more out of the system (I know that I've not optimized all the components for OC, but as I said I'll start to get into it and spend money on getting the correct components as opposed to starting another new build).

 

My budget is around ~$2300/£1800 (as I'm in the UK), and I've included the monitor price in that as I'd like a decent monitor instead of using my TV. I should point out that my chosen monitor is the "ASUS VP278H 27 inch" but partpicker didn't have the correct one so I substituted for the moment.

As I said, thoughts and opinions would be appreciated but please be gentle!! First time building with not a lot of technical know how (just whatever I picked up from using google-fu)

 

TY

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wd9dkT

 

Here is an alternative.

[Trulop]

In terms of the 7700k, they can run VERY hot, so upgrading to watercooling would be a very good idea, especially if your thinking of overclocking it. the H100i from corsair is a good AIO cooler at a reasonable price (warning no RGB!!) As for ram, definately try and get towards the 3000 mark, as the 7700k can gain benefits up through 3600 pretty decently. The last thing is i would definately make sure to get a monitor with at least 100-120hz refresh rate. if your buying anythiing from the GTX 1060 cards and up, more times than not youll average well above 60 FPS. If you get a GTX 1080-1080TI, it will last you a VERY long time, and having a 60 HZ monitor would just be pointless for the ammount of performance you would have at your fingertips. As for a monitor, something with a 5MS response would be fine, 100HZ, and if you could, get an IPS screen, and You'll be perfectly happy with it.

[N00bi3builder]

58 minutes ago, Marty88 said:

I think there's a few issues with this build and some things that don't make sense.

The 1080ti is overkill considering the monitor you are thinking of buying (if you are not going to upgrade that in the future.) I would swap that for a 1070 if not and use the money to upgrade ram and CPU cooler

I've been going back and forth on the monitor. In the end I decided that I'll get a half decent one for the moment, and when Christmas comes around, I'll (hopefully) find a discount somewhere and swap it out for one that actually matches the performance of the GPU. I may change my mind and get a good one from the get go (depending on how much money I manage to save up this month)

20 minutes ago, Trulop said:

In terms of the 7700k, they can run VERY hot, so upgrading to watercooling would be a very good idea, especially if your thinking of overclocking it. the H100i from corsair is a good AIO cooler at a reasonable price (warning no RGB!!) As for ram, definately try and get towards the 3000 mark, as the 7700k can gain benefits up through 3600 pretty decently. The last thing is i would definately make sure to get a monitor with at least 100-120hz refresh rate. if your buying anythiing from the GTX 1060 cards and up, more times than not youll average well above 60 FPS. If you get a GTX 1080-1080TI, it will last you a VERY long time, and having a 60 HZ monitor would just be pointless for the ammount of performance you would have at your fingertips. As for a monitor, something with a 5MS response would be fine, 100HZ, and if you could, get an IPS screen, and You'll be perfectly happy with it.

RGB is not a concern since my tower doesn't have glass panels. To hit the 3000 mark I'll need to overclock the ram right? I'll take a look into how involved that process is before deciding I think. As for the CPU I plan to overclock it much further down the line (and upgrade to AIO cooler then) but my understanding was that 7700k's TDP is 91watts and the evo 212's TDP is 180? shouldn't that be fine? I was considering of changing to a high end air cooler before finalising the build. As for the monitor I appreciate the points to consider (as I was only thinking about response times and HZ when considering about upgrading)

[N00bi3builder]

47 minutes ago, Marty88 said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Wd9dkT

 

Here is an alternative.

That already looks a lot 'trimmer' budget wise than my list, I'll have a more detailed look through this evening. Thanks!

[N00bi3builder]

1 hour ago, Changis said:

maybe spit a bit more in and get a better psu?
look here to find a good psu, go from tier 3 and upwards, the corsair you chose is good but have been demoted due to the fan not being high enough quality.. it's the heart of your computer, don't go for cheapest  atleast that's my advice

 

I had no idea about the PSU. I'll have a look through the Tier post when I have more time this evening. Thank you!

[Marty88]

7 minutes ago, N00bi3builder said:

That already looks a lot 'trimmer' budget wise than my list, I'll have a more detailed look through this evening. Thanks!

Yeh have a look, If you wanted to spend a bit more money you could trade the graphics card for a 1080 or 1080ti to spend a bit more money. On another note on your parts list you have put in windows 10 but have not put a price to it to which my list contains the price.

[Trulop]

Not sure how to reply to a specific part of a post so i apologize in advance. As for the ram, you dont need to overclock to 3000, you could buy ram clocked at higher speeds. The best thing to do, is to find your motherboard your wanting, go to its website, and look for its QVL (Qualified Vendors List) for compatibale and tested ram configs. it will tell you which ram in specific, in what speeds, and how many/what size sticks they used to test it and cleared it in. So no need to overclock ram, just buy matching 3000 ram for your board, and learn to OC more at a later time if you wish. As for the processor, the hyper 212 evo is one of my absolute favorite heatsinks. For the price and the performance, its wonderful, but, with the 7700k, ive seen quite a few people with very high thermals, even on water, and not even overclocked. Not everyone has quite the same issue, but it seems to be a bit of the silicon lottery, and just becoming the norm that it runs pretty hot. You will probably be able to run it fine on the 212 with no overclock, but dont be alarmed if at max load, you see mid to high 80's C. I think you had a great plan for monitors as well, buy something that gets you by for now, and when the time comes upgrade into something that works best for your setup. Even after you upgrade, you can still use the old monitor for a dual monitor setup. Game on the main one, and run youtube or other stuff on the alternative.

[N00bi3builder]

13 minutes ago, Marty88 said:

Yeh have a look, If you wanted to spend a bit more money you could trade the graphics card for a 1080 or 1080ti to spend a bit more money. On another note on your parts list you have put in windows 10 but have not put a price to it to which my list contains the price.

Yes I did notice that, my university makes windows 10 available for free for students with new systems to discourage pirating. Though I've finished my Thesis I'm technically a student until December (when I get my feedback). So I was going to take advantage of that

[N00bi3builder]

7 minutes ago, Trulop said:

Not sure how to reply to a specific part of a post so i apologize in advance. As for the ram, you dont need to overclock to 3000, you could buy ram clocked at higher speeds. The best thing to do, is to find your motherboard your wanting, go to its website, and look for its QVL (Qualified Vendors List) for compatibale and tested ram configs. it will tell you which ram in specific, in what speeds, and how many/what size sticks they used to test it and cleared it in. So no need to overclock ram, just buy matching 3000 ram for your board, and learn to OC more at a later time if you wish. As for the processor, the hyper 212 evo is one of my absolute favorite heatsinks. For the price and the performance, its wonderful, but, with the 7700k, ive seen quite a few people with very high thermals, even on water, and not even overclocked. Not everyone has quite the same issue, but it seems to be a bit of the silicon lottery, and just becoming the norm that it runs pretty hot. You will probably be able to run it fine on the 212 with no overclock, but dont be alarmed if at max load, you see mid to high 80's C. I think you had a great plan for monitors as well, buy something that gets you by for now, and when the time comes upgrade into something that works best for your setup. Even after you upgrade, you can still use the old monitor for a dual monitor setup. Game on the main one, and run youtube or other stuff on the alternative.

Thanks for clearing that up! I'll look into both of those when I get some time and start updating my list. I find Dual monitors to be the best thing set up for productivity (specially for engineering work) but I don't want to set it up on my home rig to prevent me from feeling too productive.

[Marty88]

42 minutes ago, N00bi3builder said:

Yes I did notice that, my university makes windows 10 available for free for students with new systems to discourage pirating. Though I've finished my Thesis I'm technically a student until December (when I get my feedback). So I was going to take advantage of that

That's great because it gives you an extra 100 pounds to play with then :).

 

With that I would say you would be able to upgrade the graphics card then. If you have anymore questions or issues though just give me a shout and ill be more than happy to help,

[N00bi3builder]

After taking the feedback onboard, here is a slightly revised parts list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/GV3VNN
Any thoughts from people?

 

Also I'd like some opinions about GPU manufacturers. The main reason I ask is that the 'ASUS GeForce GTX 1080Ti Founder's edition' appears to be constantly out of stock here in the UK but the 'Gigabyte AORUS GeForce GTX 1080Ti' is readily available though costing £25 more. Does the two manufacturers have vastly different quality and reliability? Not very worried about heat exhaust in/out of the case FYI.

 

A point I feel that I should make is that it'll take me about 2-3 months to save up enough money to purchase the components (in one go ideally), so obviously there's the hope that some component prices will drop bringing down costs and also will become available for purchase (which applies to the GPU)