i5 6500 Overclock

[zbam]

Hello,

 

long story short I just have overclocked my i5 6500 to 4.7ghz, it is pretty stable with one catch.. 1.43Vcore in bios and cpuz shows core voltage 1.44 and hwinfo shows between 1.432 lowest and 1.448 top. Idle temp is between 30-40C while web browsing.

Temperature never went over 60C with corsair h115i in quiet mode. There was only one time for 65 C which was just a spike for a milisecond that is all, under heavy load with prime95 for two hours it did not go over 60C.

 

Is there any risk frying to CPU with this temperature values ?

 

Motherboard: MSI z170a gaming pro.

PSU Zalman LX 600W

[MarcVez]

temps are well within the safe range, voltage is a little high, i would be comfortable with that voltage for benchmarking but probably not every day use.

[zbam]

5 minutes ago, MarcVez said:

temps are well within the safe range, voltage is a little high, i would be comfortable with that voltage for benchmarking but probably not every day use.

if CPU has 1.2vcore for example and the danger for this starts at 80C and 80C+,

is it a lower edge for CPU if you give them more Vcore ? like my current one with the overclock, where does the danger start as celsius degree ?

 

And as long as you can cool it down there should be no problem right ?

[MarcVez]

yeah you can run it past its recommended voltage if its kept cool, but it could reduce the life span of your cpu

[zbam]

Just now, MarcVez said:

yeah you can run it past its recommended voltage if its kept cool, but it could reduce the life span of your cpu

well one more question then, I have been using this CPU for 1 year and 4 months exactly with no overclock. Now I overclocked, if it still hangs on for 2 more years I am happy  And I probably wont even hold it for 2 more years I will probably be getting ryzen2(whenever it comes out) or even earlier ryzen 1700.

[MarcVez]

4 minutes ago, zbam said:

well one more question then, I have been using this CPU for 1 year and 4 months exactly with no overclock. Now I overclocked, if it still hangs on for 2 more years I am happy  And I probably wont even hold it for 2 more years I will probably be getting ryzen2(whenever it comes out) or even earlier ryzen 1700.

its a game of chance, i abused my 3930k like crazy for the 1st 3 years i had it, and its still working thank god, because i cant afford to replace it right now.

i had it at 4.9 ghz and pushed more Vcore that is safe trying to hit 5ghz but could never get it stable : (

[zbam]

Just now, MarcVez said:

its a game of chance, i abused my 3930k like crazy for the 1st 3 years i had it, and its still working thank god, because i cant afford to replace it right now.

i had it and 4.9 ghz and pushed more Vcore that is safe trying to hit 5ghz but could never get it stable : (

Oh I hope it still goes for very long time but I guess the K chips are more durable when it comes to overclock and voltage right ? So I guess you should still be fine

[zbam]

Where are you overclocker people ?

[JoostinOnline]

You can't overclock the 6500.  It's locked.  I'm guessing you have the wrong model number.  You probably mean the 6600k.

[zbam]

5 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

You can't overclock the 6500.  It's locked.  I'm guessing you have the wrong model number.  You probably mean the 6600k.

It never stops to amaze me that people still do not know that you can overclock the nonK 6. gen skylake processors with right bios and motherboards

[JoostinOnline]

13 minutes ago, zbam said:

It never stops to amaze me that people still do not know that you can overclock the nonK 6. gen skylake processors with right bios and motherboards

I knew there was an early Z170 BIOS version that let you modify the BCLK, but Intel bullied them into removing it.  I didn't realize you could push it so far without messing up everything else.  Did you underclock your GPU and RAM?

[zbam]

33 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

I knew there was an early Z170 BIOS version that let you modify the BCLK, but Intel bullied them into removing it.  I didn't realize you could push it so far without messing up everything else.  Did you underclock your GPU and RAM?

yes intel did but it is still out there if you want to reach and old version BIOS

well I did not realized I could push this much either I did not touch the GPU at all, I even overclocked the ram about 250hz without touching the dram voltage.

[JoostinOnline]

3 hours ago, zbam said:

yes intel did but it is still out there if you want to reach and old version BIOS

well I did not realized I could push this much either I did not touch the GPU at all, I even overclocked the ram about 250hz without touching the dram voltage.

I'd forgotten that Skylake BCLK overclocking doesn't affect the PCIe lanes or RAM, unlike most past generations.

[Jumper118]

1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

I'd forgotten that Skylake BCLK overclocking doesn't affect the PCIe lanes or RAM, unlike most past generations.

It does increase ram speed. He just said it went up 250mhz.....

 

On 23/08/2017 at 4:58 PM, zbam said:

Hello,

 

long story short I just have overclocked my i5 6500 to 4.7ghz, it is pretty stable with one catch.. 1.43Vcore in bios and cpuz shows core voltage 1.44 and hwinfo shows between 1.432 lowest and 1.448 top. Idle temp is between 30-40C while web browsing.

Temperature never went over 60C with corsair h115i in quiet mode. There was only one time for 65 C which was just a spike for a milisecond that is all, under heavy load with prime95 for two hours it did not go over 60C.

 

Is there any risk frying to CPU with this temperature values ?

 

Motherboard: MSI z170a gaming pro.

PSU Zalman LX 600W

Temps are good but voltage is a bit high. I would keep 4.6ghz 1.4v if I was you but if you only need it to last a year it will be OK. 

 

5 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

I knew there was an early Z170 BIOS version that let you modify the BCLK, but Intel bullied them into removing it.  I didn't realize you could push it so far without messing up everything else.  Did you underclock your GPU and RAM?

Intel threatened to remove it but they never really did. On an asrock ocf you can choose the microcode for the cpu on any bios. On most z170 board you can use sky x oc on asrock on most earlier bios. 

 

I had a 6600k 6600 and 2 6500 and the better 6500 was the fastest of the lot. Sold the 6600k and stuck with the 6500 for a while. That was about 4.7 or 4.8ghz I think. 6600k was 100mhz slower. 

 

 

[JoostinOnline]

10 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

It does increase ram speed. He just said it went up 250mhz.....

No, he said that HE overclocked it.

 

19 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

Intel threatened to remove it but they never really did. On an asrock ocf you can choose the microcode for the cpu on any bios. On most z170 board you can use sky x oc on asrock on most earlier bios. 

The fact that you have to downgrade most/all BIOS's for the ability suggests otherwise.

[zbam]

6 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

It does increase ram speed. He just said it went up 250mhz.....

 

Temps are good but voltage is a bit high. I would keep 4.6ghz 1.4v if I was you but if you only need it to last a year it will be OK. 

 

Intel threatened to remove it but they never really did. On an asrock ocf you can choose the microcode for the cpu on any bios. On most z170 board you can use sky x oc on asrock on most earlier bios. 

 

I had a 6600k 6600 and 2 6500 and the better 6500 was the fastest of the lot. Sold the 6600k and stuck with the 6500 for a while. That was about 4.7 or 4.8ghz I think. 6600k was 100mhz slower. 

 

 

It affects the ram speed when you bump up the BCLK then you need to manually choose lower speed for the RAM after setting the BCLK.

 

6 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

It does increase ram speed. He just said it went up 250mhz.....

 

Temps are good but voltage is a bit high. I would keep 4.6ghz 1.4v if I was you but if you only need it to last a year it will be OK. 

 

Intel threatened to remove it but they never really did. On an asrock ocf you can choose the microcode for the cpu on any bios. On most z170 board you can use sky x oc on asrock on most earlier bios. 

 

I had a 6600k 6600 and 2 6500 and the better 6500 was the fastest of the lot. Sold the 6600k and stuck with the 6500 for a while. That was about 4.7 or 4.8ghz I think. 6600k was 100mhz slower. 

 

 

I think it is also possible to edit the latest bios and just remove the forced microcode as well, but I did not want to tinker with a bios file. Oh you think it is that bad to keep it at 1.43 ? Only a year.. damn Okay I will try lower speeds when I go home today.

[Jumper118]

1 hour ago, zbam said:

It affects the ram speed when you bump up the BCLK then you need to manually choose lower speed for the RAM after setting the BCLK.

 

I think it is also possible to edit the latest bios and just remove the forced microcode as well, but I did not want to tinker with a bios file. Oh you think it is that bad to keep it at 1.43 ? Only a year.. damn Okay I will try lower speeds when I go home today.

yes i know lol. 

 

yeah 1.43v is a little too high. 

 

7 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

No, he said that HE overclocked it.

 

The fact that you have to downgrade most/all BIOS's for the ability suggests otherwise.

yes he would have overclocked it when raising the bclk  

 

rolled back and downgrade is not the same thing  just cos a bios is newer doesnt mean its better lol. Also like i said on some boards you can choose the microcode on any bios............

[RGProductions]

Are we all forgetting that the temp sensor is/was bugged when bclk overclocking? 

[zbam]

32 minutes ago, RGProductions said:

Are we all forgetting that the temp sensor is/was bugged when bclk overclocking? 

How much bugged ? I can not read the temps from regular programs if you mean that as bugged, only hwinfo and bios screen works for reading the temps.

What kind of bug  ? Please shed a light on it I am scared now

[Jumper118]

1 hour ago, RGProductions said:

Are we all forgetting that the temp sensor is/was bugged when bclk overclocking? 

It reads correct on the post reader on msi boards cos it reads straight from the bios

[zbam]

2 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

It reads correct on the post reader on msi boards cos it reads straight from the bios

Okay that is pretty good news then I really loved the 400+fps on CSGO now i will feel sad while trying to make lower freq stable

[Princess Luna]

19 hours ago, zbam said:

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You can you just shouldn't as an i7 6700 on cheapest h110m out there outperforms it with a laugh at a considerably the same price/cheaper

[zbam]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

You can you just shouldn't as an i7 6700 on cheapest h110m out there outperforms it with a laugh at a considerably the same price/cheaper

Well I like my motherboard to look nice and big and in the beginning I bought z170a gaming pro with a though that I could upgrade my way up to coffee lake K serie, well that did not happen. Now I will overclock the i5 and use it as my testing bench then upgrade most likely to AMD.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, zbam said:

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I know the feeling I also was really really waiting for Coffee Lake, I thought it was releasing this 21st of August as it was suggested, was going to grab an i7 8700k and make a gaming king rig I even sold my old i7 3970x with TITAN X Maxwell SLI rig in anticipation for it.

 

Then Intel says it is probably no before than november and I no longer had a computer lmao I considered getting a Ryzen 7 rig like my brother then but I came across a sweet second hand deal on this i7 6700 coming bundled with a free 8gb of ram, so I said what the hell might as well grab it with the cheapest h110m mobo I can find and wait until Ice Lake 10nm now since being realistic this is enough for any gaming I need.

 

The funny part of the adventure though is that I convinced this person on our Brazilian "eBay" to sell me his last TITAN X Pascal brand new for the 1080ti FE price since he got stuck with it and nobody would ever pay 1200ish $ on it any longer

 

[zbam]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I know the feeling I also was really really waiting for Coffee Lake, I thought it was releasing this 21st of August as it was suggested, was going to grab an i7 8700k and make a gaming king rig I even sold my old i7 3970x with TITAN X Maxwell SLI rig in anticipation for it.

 

Then Intel says it is probably no before than november and I no longer had a computer lmao I considered getting a Ryzen 7 rig like my brother then but I came across a sweet second hand deal on this i7 6700 coming bundled with a free 8gb of ram, so I said what the hell might as well grab it with the cheapest h110m mobo I can find and wait until Ice Lake 10nm now since being realistic this is enough for any gaming I need.

 

The funny part of the adventure though is that I convinced this person on our Brazilian "eBay" to sell me his last TITAN X Pascal brand new for the 1080ti FE price since he got stuck with it and nobody would ever pay 1200ish $ on it any longer

 

that s a bummer haha I would not survive until november without PC   if the things go the way they are now, I think even in the future I will still lean towards AMD rather than monopoly company intel. But as you said your temp rig is enough for any game you throw at it, just maybe not gaming while streaming with x264 encoder

I didn't know you could bargain your way out on ebay, congrats on your titan x pascal