Posted November 30, 2013 Hello new to the forums hope you're all very well, my name is Mike and i was thinking of going sli in the future but wondered if it would really be worth it and if I'd even see a difference? I get 70-120 fps on Bf4 on ultra and wondered if i would get decent performance without my Cpu having a melt down from raw Gpu performance? I'm mainly worried the i5 3570k wouldn't be able to handle it. My System BenQ XL2420T 24 inchGTX 780 superclocked ACXBitFenix Shinobi Midi Tower Chassis - Black WindowWent for an i5 3570kGigabyte SKT-1155 Z77X-UD5H4x G.Skill 4GB XL Main MemoryIntel SSD 520 Series 2.5 inch 120GB 6GB/SWestern Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200 HDDCorsair Builder Series CXM 750W Modular 80Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (120mm)LG ELECTRONICS GH24NS95 LG (24X) DVD Rewriter2x Corsair Air Series 120mm PWM fansCooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (Green LED)Thermaltake eSPORTS Challenger Pro Gaming KeyboardCorsair CH-9000023-EU Vengeance MouseRazer Goliathus Extended Control Mouse Matwindows 7V2 3d glasses & emitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 I think it should be more then fine CPU Ryzen 5 Asrock B350 Pro 4 / MSI RX580 Gaming / RAM 16 Gigs Corsair Vengeance 3000 / HDD 1TB Seagate Barracuda / SSD Samsung 840 120GB / 500GB Samsung SSD / Case Urban S31 / PSU EVGA G2 750w / Os Windows 10 / Keyboard Corsair K70 / Mouse Razer Naga 2013 (Won it from Linus!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Author I think it should be more then fine Someone said i would have to upgrade my Psu to a 850w if i went sli, is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Someone said i would have to upgrade my Psu to a 850w if i went sli, is this true? Well it depends....If you want any head room.....I would go to 850w just to be safe!! Sorry I missed looking at your psu CPU Ryzen 5 Asrock B350 Pro 4 / MSI RX580 Gaming / RAM 16 Gigs Corsair Vengeance 3000 / HDD 1TB Seagate Barracuda / SSD Samsung 840 120GB / 500GB Samsung SSD / Case Urban S31 / PSU EVGA G2 750w / Os Windows 10 / Keyboard Corsair K70 / Mouse Razer Naga 2013 (Won it from Linus!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Author Well it depends....If you want any head room.....I would go to 850w just to be safe!! Sorry I missed looking at your psu That's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Author Well it depends....If you want any head room.....I would go to 850w just to be safe!! Sorry I missed looking at your psu I thought i already had headroom with the 750w as i've seen people using 600w power supplies for the same sort of builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Someone said i would have to upgrade my Psu to a 850w if i went sli, is this true? 750w is enough for SLI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 What do you mean you don't think it'll handle it? Compatible with Windows 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Author What do you mean you don't think it'll handle it? I thought i might need a more powerful Cpu because when i play Cpu heavy games like Bf4 it might restrict me getting the most out of my Gpu/Gpu's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 You processor will be plenty fast to run SLI. Setup: i5 4670k @ 4.2 Ghz, Corsair H100i Cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB Ram @ 1600 Mhz, MSI Z87-GD65 Motherboard, Corsair GS700 2013 edition PSU, MSI GTX 770 Lightning, Samsung EVO 120 SSD + 2TB&1TB Seagate Barracudas, BenQ XL2411T Monitor, Sennheiser HD 598 Headphones + AntLion ModMic 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Author You processor will be plenty fast to run SLI. Good to know. I'm mainly looking now so at some future date when the Gpu is at a good price i can get it and get some nice performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 I thought i might need a more powerful Cpu because when i play Cpu heavy games like Bf4 it might restrict me getting the most out of my Gpu/Gpu's Everything restricts everything. If you had a GT 210 in one system with a pentium, then the performance would be less than one with an i7 4770 in it. Bottlenecks don't really work the way that people think. Even though the bottleneck was the Graphics card, there are other factors in play all of the time. JUST YOLO IT. [However, an upgrade to Haswell won't go amiss] Compatible with Windows 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Author Everything restricts everything. If you had a GT 210 in one system with a pentium, then the performance would be less than one with an i7 4770 in it. Bottlenecks don't really work the way that people think. Even though the bottleneck was the Graphics card, there are other factors in play all of the time. JUST YOLO IT. [However, an upgrade to Haswell won't go amiss] Yea i get that you will always get a bottleneck somewhere, i just hoped that adding another Gpu with the i5 3570k would add more performance. Btw I love your picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Yea i get that you will always get a bottleneck somewhere, i just hoped that adding another Gpu with the i5 3570k would add more performance. Btw I love your picture. Yeah, I'm sure it'll work out fine And thanks Compatible with Windows 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Hello new to the forums hope you're all very well, my name is Mike and i was thinking of going sli in the future but wondered if it would really be worth it and if I'd even see a difference? I get 70-120 fps on Bf4 on ultra and wondered if i would get decent performance without my Cpu having a melt down from raw Gpu performance? I'm mainly worried the i5 3570k wouldn't be able to handle it. My System BenQ XL2420T 24 inch GTX 780 superclocked ACX BitFenix Shinobi Midi Tower Chassis - Black Window Went for an i5 3570k Gigabyte SKT-1155 Z77X-UD5H 4x G.Skill 4GB XL Main Memory Intel SSD 520 Series 2.5 inch 120GB 6GB/S Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200 HDD Corsair Builder Series CXM 750W Modular 80 Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) LG ELECTRONICS GH24NS95 LG (24X) DVD Rewriter 2x Corsair Air Series 120mm PWM fans Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (Green LED) Thermaltake eSPORTS Challenger Pro Gaming Keyboard Corsair CH-9000023-EU Vengeance Mouse Razer Goliathus Extended Control Mouse Mat windows 7 V2 3d glasses & emitter upgrade to 850 watt PSU or higher [spoiler= Dream machine (There is also a buildlog)] Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe - CPU: I7 5820k @4.4 ghz 1.225vcore - GPU: 2x Asus GTX 970 Strix edition - Mainboard: Asus X99-S - RAM: HyperX predator 4x4 2133 mhz - HDD: Seagate barracuda 2 TB 7200 rpm - SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB SSD - PSU: Corsair HX1000i - Case fans: 3x Noctua PPC 140mm - Radiator fans: 3x Noctua PPC 120 mm - CPU cooler: Fractal design Kelvin S36 together with Noctua PPCs - Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB Cherry gaming keyboard - mouse: Steelseries sensei raw - Headset: Kingston HyperX Cloud - Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 Check power consumption with a program, and if you want to over clock use your program to decide. [ Cruel Angel ]: Exterior - BENQ XL2420T | SteelSeries MLG Sensei | Corsair K70 RED | Corsair 900D | CPU: - 4.7Ghz @ 1.425v | Interior - i7 4770k | Maximus VI Formula | Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB | ASUS GTX 980 Strix SLIx2 | 840 Pro 512Gb | WD Black 2TB | RAM: - 2400Mhz OC @ 1.650v | Cooling - XSPC 120mm x7 Total Radiator Space | XSPC RayStorm | PrimoChill Tubing/Res | GPU: - 1000Mhz @ 1.158 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 CPU Bottleneck alert. I would step up to a Haswell i7 OCed to 4.4 or a little more if i'm even remotly considering such a GPU upgrade. Although, waiting for broadwell might be a safer bet, since actual boards don't support it. (it's way muddier than the last time around when even sandy bridge intended boards ran ivy bridge perfectly well) Stop bloating nonsense, and reason to contribute in a constructive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 30, 2013 CPU Bottleneck alert. I would step up to a Haswell i7 OCed to 4.4 or a little more if i'm even remotly considering such a GPU upgrade. Although, waiting for broadwell might be a safer bet, since actual boards don't support it. (it's way muddier than the last time around when even sandy bridge intended boards ran ivy bridge perfectly well) theres not alot of merits going with a i7 for gaming, and the difference beetwen haswell and ivy is like what .. 10-15%? even less if you overclock properly? so that's like what .. a couple fps ingame? theres no "cpu bottleneck allert", yeah two 780's is abit much but he shouldn't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 theres not alot of merits going with a i7 for gaming, and the difference beetwen haswell and ivy is like what .. 10-15%? even less if you overclock properly? so that's like what .. a couple fps ingame? theres no "cpu bottleneck allert", yeah two 780's is abit much but he shouldn't worry about it. i7 don't contribute much to gaming performance... when you only have one 780, by pushing more graphics horses the CPU needs more threads to spare, and that's what the i7 offers. Unless you want him to go totally overkill and grab an i7 LGA 2011. ^^ This myth about i7 not contributing much to performance is only valid when the graphics power need to power a given game isn't huge, in this case it's enormous, two of these can basically run CRYSIS 3 at almost 60FPS in 2.5k, i'll let you imagine how much processing power is needed to achieve this... Stop bloating nonsense, and reason to contribute in a constructive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 if you got 1440p with your monitor I highly recommend a 2nd gpu..like me =) GamingPC: Intel 4770k CPU, 2xMSI 780 GTX Twin Frozr, 16 GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, Swiftech H220 CPU Cooler. Cookie Cutter Build log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 i7 don't contribute much to gaming performance... when you only have one 780, by pushing more graphics horses the CPU needs more threads to spare, and that's what the i7 offers. Unless you want him to go totally overkill and grab an i7 LGA 2011. ^^ This myth about i7 not contributing much to performance is only valid when the graphics power need to power a given game isn't huge, in this case it's enormous, two of these can basically run CRYSIS 3 at almost 60FPS in 2.5k, i'll let you imagine how much processing power is needed to achieve this... it's a simple fact.. most games don't take advantage of hyperthreading, some even have a performance decrease. and did you miss the part where i said the difference in performance is minimal? and lga 2011 is obviously pointless, the truth is for gaming theres nothing that's actually much better than a 3570k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 Author It seems to be an issue that everyone has a difference of opinon on, i wish linus would do a video on it because the i5 3570k/i5 4670k are popular cpu's and the 780's are coming into peoples price ranges now. Everyone always advises everyone else to get i5's and when somebody want's to sli everyone say's you need an i7, that's a bit of a pain tbh, they should tell them that an i7 may be needed if they want to sli in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 it's a simple fact.. most games don't take advantage of hyperthreading, some even have a performance decrease. and did you miss the part where i said the difference in performance is minimal? and lga 2011 is obviously pointless, the truth is for gaming theres nothing that's actually much better than a 3570k. You'd be surprised if we actually put the facts you're claiming in test. ^^ The 4 extra threads aren't just sitting there doing nothing, these are extra ones that offer performance improvements over the regular i5 in CPU Bound situations (where GPU ressources are heavily sucked in balls to the walls) It seems to be an issue that everyone has a difference of opinon on, i wish linus would do a video on it because the i5 3570k/i5 4670k are popular cpu's and the 780's are coming into peoples price ranges now. Everyone always advises everyone else to get i5's and when somebody want's to sli everyone say's you need an i7, that's a bit of a pain tbh, they should tell them that an i7 may be needed if they want to sli in the future. This is actually one of the main reasons i hated the "How many CPU Cores do you need for gaming ?" It featured a GPU barely capable of leveraging those extra cores. If he can do one with two GTX 780s, we'll know the truth for sure, while i'm at it, @LinusTech , are you planning to do a such video ? (i've mentionned him, he should be notified) Stop bloating nonsense, and reason to contribute in a constructive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 Author You'd be surprised if we actually put the facts you're claiming in test. ^^ The 4 extra threads aren't just sitting there doing nothing, these are extra ones that offer performance improvements over the regular i5 in CPU Bound situations (where GPU ressources are heavily sucked in balls to the walls) This is actually one of the main reasons i hated the "How many CPU Cores do you need for gaming ?" It featured a GPU barely capable of leveraging those extra cores. If he can do one with two GTX 780s, we'll know the truth for sure, while i'm at it, @LinusTech , are you planning to do a such video ? (i've mentionned him, he should be notified) If he does do a test he should also try it with the GTX 780SC ACX, Titans and the 780 ti's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 1, 2013 If he does do a test he should also try it with the GTX 780SC ACX, Titans and the 780 ti's Or pick the fastest ones and figure out the performance deficit from there, easy money. Stop bloating nonsense, and reason to contribute in a constructive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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