$600 build

[QuantumBit]

So like I previously said my friend is going to be building a PC for $600, and we've decided on everything besides the motherboard and case. Here's the current build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/46XGCy 

He wants it to have a side panel window, and the color scheme to be black + red or blue. We haven't chosen the ram either because if its color, so if you could help with that too it would be amazing   Also he's not going to get an SSD currently because he's not really bothered by boot times, and the extra 50 for the GPU would really help.

[emosun]

You should be using an ssd regardless of boot times as it makes retrieving ANYTHING the machine needs from the drive faster.

I would sooner choose a slightly less gpu and an ssd over the several times over slower hard drive. 

[QuantumBit]

Just now, emosun said:

You should be using an ssd regardless of boot times as it makes retrieving ANYTHING the machine needs from the drive faster.

I would sooner choose a slightly less gpu and an ssd over the several times over slower hard drive. 

He's lived with HDD his entire life, also the SSD is only 120gb so it would only store the OS. 

 

If he gets a weaker gpu for lets say $120, he's stuck with it unless he sells it for less, if he gets a gpu for lets sya $170 now, he can always get the SSD later without losing money.

[emosun]

the ryzen 5 1400 is also quite slow for the price compared to something like an old e5-2670 which is about 33% faster and averages around 100$

You might have much better luck building a machine from an older workstation as it'll be much faster and cheaper and give you more room for an ssd and a gpu.

[QuantumBit]

2 minutes ago, emosun said:

the ryzen 5 1400 is also quite slow for the price compared to something like an old e5-2670 which is about 33% faster and averages around 100$

You might have much better luck building a machine from an older workstation as it'll be much faster and cheaper and give you more room for an ssd and a gpu.

Would you mind making a list?

[QuantumBit]

7 minutes ago, emosun said:

the ryzen 5 1400 is also quite slow for the price compared to something like an old e5-2670 which is about 33% faster and averages around 100$

You might have much better luck building a machine from an older workstation as it'll be much faster and cheaper and give you more room for an ssd and a gpu.

I also want to stay away from as many used parts as possible, since when I start using things like older motherboards and CPU's,  they have old connectors, dont support certain things, and makes more possibility for something to break

 

Not to mention I have to buy thermal paste, a cooler, and more motherboard parts.

 

Also http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2670/3922vsm18501

[emosun]

3 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

Also http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1400-vs-Intel-Xeon-E5-2670/3922vsm18501

not sure i'd use that website as any sort of real benchmark in comparing cpu's. The site appears to have very loose standards much like "can you run it" website which doesn't display information very accurately either.

use somthing more established like cinebench or passmark. 

 

 

[QuantumBit]

3 minutes ago, emosun said:

not sure i'd use that website as any sort of real benchmark in comparing cpu's. The site appears to have very loose standards much like "can you run it" website which doesn't display information very accurately either.

use somthing more established like cinebench or passmark. 

 

 

Still, I think I'm still better of going with a new mobo/cpu since its less problems and less things to buy.

[emosun]

5 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

Still, I think I'm still better of going with a new mobo/cpu since its less problems and less things to buy.

new parts doesn't mean less problems by far. 

I'd sooner purchase known working higher quality/faster parts than slower/cheaper untested new parts.

This topic occurs all the time on linus videos. and they always recommend buying faster higher quality used parts over low quality/cheap new parts when you're on a tight budget. those workstation class machines are built to last much longer than cheap consumer grade parts , but it's your money so I'll leave it at that. lol

[MadOver]

Get the B350 Fatal1ty, pretty good motherboard and match the colors  .

[QuantumBit]

2 minutes ago, MadOver said:

Get the B350 Fatal1ty, pretty good motherboard and match the colors  .

A bit pricey...

[MadOver]

then the Pro 4 is a good alternative, good overclocking.

But it's not black and Red.

[QuantumBit]

1 minute ago, Leshya said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($126.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.65 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($66.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($144.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: BitFenix - Neos Black/Gold ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 
Total: $679.26
 

Seems like a nice build, though I'm worried about sacrificing cpu + gpu for more ram and an ssd

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($156.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($216.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Deepcool - D-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $606.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-17 21:43 EDT-0400

[QuantumBit]

11 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($156.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($216.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Deepcool - D-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $606.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-17 21:43 EDT-0400

Woah! A 1400 and a 1060? Thanks!

[QuantumBit]

11 hours ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($156.48 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($42.33 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($216.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Deepcool - D-Shield ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $606.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-17 21:43 EDT-0400

Would you recommend any other case? The one you linked has either $30 + $15 shipping, or just $40 without...

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, QuantumBit said:

Would you recommend any other case? The one you linked has either $30 + $15 shipping, or just $40 without...

fractal core 1000 looks nice for $28 on ncix.