Bottleneck?

[itsaiden]

Hey everyone, I just got a new pc with an i5 7400 and an RX 480 4gb. I've been noticing that in one of my favourite games, PUBG, I can't run any settings stable above low. So I'm not sure if there is a bottleneck or if my GPU is not good enough.. my friend has an Rx 480 8gb and runs 60fps ultra, but I don't think The extra 4gbs would make that much of a difference?

[Firecheetah13]

1 minute ago, itsaiden said:

Hey everyone, I just got a new pc with an i5 7400 and an RX 480 4gb. I've been noticing that in one of my favourite games, PUBG, I can't run any settings stable above low. So I'm not sure if there is a bottleneck or if my GPU is not good enough.. my friend has an Rx 480 8gb and runs 60fps ultra, but I don't think The extra 4gbs would make that much of a difference?

I think I know your issue, because I have an RX 470 myself with an i5-6500. To start, there is no bottleneck. Not even close. However, check MSI AB while in game. For me, I couldn't even run CS:GO above 60fps (wasn't capped). I figured out that my GPU was locking itself at 300MHz on the core and memory.

[Majestic]

A. your friend is lying, because I can't run it 1080p ultra on a 1070 (it runs, but not >60 guaranteed, smoothly though). B. it runs like arse on AMD GPU's, and C. it uses a shitton of memory (both vram and ram). Do you have 8GB of memory?

[itsaiden]

4 minutes ago, Majestic said:

A. your friend is lying, because I can't run it 1080p ultra on a 1070 (it runs, but not >60 guaranteed, smoothly though). B. it runs like arse on AMD GPU's, and C. it uses a shitton of memory (both vram and ram). Do you have 8GB of memory?

I have 8gb of RAM but 4gb of Vram. I can run Rainbow six at ultra no problem.

[itsaiden]

6 minutes ago, Firecheetah13 said:

I think I know your issue, because I have an RX 470 myself with an i5-6500. To start, there is no bottleneck. Not even close. However, check MSI AB while in game. For me, I couldn't even run CS:GO above 60fps (wasn't capped). I figured out that my GPU was locking itself at 300MHz on the core and memory.

I doubt that's the issue because I went into AB and it looked normal

[Majestic]

Just now, itsaiden said:

I have 8gb of RAM but 4gb of Vram. I can run Rainbow six at ultra no problem.

What does it matter you can run a completely different engine at ultra? This isn't rainbow six, this is also not even remotely the same scale of datastreaming size.

The game requires 16GB of RAM at the moment for fluent gameplay. Either wait for patches of upgrade RAM.

[BloodyWaters]

Just now, itsaiden said:

I doubt that's the issue because I went into AB and it looked normal

Close AB completely while you play the game and see if it helps. 

[itsaiden]

I forgot to mention that my fps is stable at higher settings until I get shot at or shoot at something 

[itsaiden]

12 minutes ago, Majestic said:

What does it matter you can run a completely different engine at ultra? This isn't rainbow six, this is also not even remotely the same scale of datastreaming size.

The game requires 16GB of RAM at the moment for fluent gameplay. Either wait for patches of upgrade RAM.

So it's the game having bad optimization?

[Majestic]

Just now, itsaiden said:

So it's the game having bad optimization?

It's early acces? The game runs pretty well to be honest. You just need 16GB of ram. Friend of mine runs it on a i7-860 stock + GTX 960. It ran like arse, told him just to stick 16GB in there and it now runs perfectly. 

[itsaiden]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

It's early acces? The game runs pretty well to be honest. You just need 16GB of ram. Friend of mine runs it on a i7-860 stock + GTX 960. It ran like arse, told him just to stick 16GB in there and it now runs perfectly. 

Really? I didn't think ram would make that much of a difference. So you think If I get more ram I'll be good?

[Majestic]

Just now, itsaiden said:

Really? I didn't think ram would make that much of a difference. So you think If I get more ram I'll be good?

Most likely, yes. Unless there is something else wrong. It won't hurt either way. On medium graphics I see the RAM usage go over 9GB in afterburner.

But if you want a better analysis I need more data. Check my sig (the i5 debate) for screenshots on what I'm aiming for. 

 

You can record them with afterburner.

[itsaiden]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

Most likely, yes. Unless there is something else wrong. It won't hurt either way. On medium graphics I see the RAM usage go over 9GB in afterburner.

But if you want a better analysis I need more data. Check my sig (the i5 debate) for screenshots on what I'm aiming for. 

 

You can record them with afterburner.

Ok I'm not able to right now but I'll post screenshots of it in a day or two 

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, itsaiden said:

Ok I'm not able to right now but I'll post screenshots of it in a day or two 

Make sure to tag or quote me, I won't be monitoring this. I'm also completely lit atm, so if you need help ask me tomorrow.

[itsaiden]

23 hours ago, Majestic said:

Make sure to tag or quote me, I won't be monitoring this. I'm also completely lit atm, so if you need help ask me tomorrow.

Hey, so I noticed that the game is not using over 80% of my memory (I have 8gbs). If the game requires 16gb wouldn't it be using more?

[Majestic]

2 minutes ago, itsaiden said:

Hey, so I noticed that the game is not using over 80% of my memory (I have 8gbs). If the game requires 16gb wouldn't it be using more?

Nah that's why it's running so poorly, it's culling data and refetching it. Windows will never allow the system to run out of memory.

[itsaiden]

On 8/17/2017 at 4:30 PM, Majestic said:

Nah that's why it's running so poorly, it's culling data and refetching it. Windows will never allow the system to run out of memory.

Is this what you were looking for? This is me in game on high settings

Task manager says memory is at 80 and cpu is 98%

sorry for taking so long to respond

 

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[Majestic]

As far as I'm seeing, it's simply running out of memory. 

[bcguru9384]

On ‎8‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 3:53 PM, Majestic said:

Most likely, yes. Unless there is something else wrong. It won't hurt either way. On medium graphics I see the RAM usage go over 9GB in afterburner.

But if you want a better analysis I need more data. Check my sig (the i5 debate) for screenshots on what I'm aiming for. 

 

You can record them with afterburner.

disable the hdd pagefilesystem and try running game

direct pagefilesystem to a different hdd to offload hdd access/wait times

 

[Majestic]

Just now, bcguru9384 said:

disable the hdd pagefilesystem and try running game

direct pagefilesystem to a different hdd to offload hdd access/wait times

 

You're suggesting he turns off pagefile on a game already running out of memory?

Dude, it will just crash to desktop. 

[bcguru9384]

7 hours ago, Majestic said:

You're suggesting he turns off pagefile on a game already running out of memory?

Dude, it will just crash to desktop. 

maybe it will run better 

[itsaiden]

7 hours ago, Majestic said:

As far as I'm seeing, it's simply running out of memory. 

Im only using 80% memory according to task manager.. is there a way to make the game use more memory?

[Majestic]

1 hour ago, bcguru9384 said:

maybe it will run better 

No it will most definitely not.

1 hour ago, itsaiden said:

Im only using 80% memory according to task manager.. is there a way to make the game use more memory?

No because Windows is protecting your system from BSOD'ing. It will never max out, hence the huge pagefile.

[bcguru9384]

20 hours ago, Majestic said:

No it will most definitely not.

No because Windows is protecting your system from BSOD'ing. It will never max out, hence the huge pagefile.

well remember youu power read my pagefile comment as i had also stated to movve pagefile to different hdd then game and OS reside on as this takes a load off the amount of work the hdd currently doing