adm ryzen 1700 vs 1800x?

[ItzGonzoHD]

is there any benefit for getting a amd ryzen 1800x vs a amd ryzen 1700?

 

Just planning another new build, also if im going with the 1800x shall i just get the 1080ti instead of a 1070. (money is not a problem)

 

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Y6YD8) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Y6YD8/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7qyxFT/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-36ghz-8-core-processor-yd180xbcaewof) | $441.09 @ B&H 
**CPU Cooler** | [NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2RdFf7/nzxt-kraken-x62-rev-2-982-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-rl-krx62-02) | $156.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Motherboard** | [MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBH48d/msi-x370-gaming-pro-carbon-atx-am4-motherboard-x370-gaming-pro-carbon) | $136.98 @ Newegg 
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) | $147.99 @ Amazon 
**Storage** | [Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam) | $104.64 @ OutletPC 
**Storage** | [Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fz2kcf/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1003fzex) | $70.89 @ OutletPC 
**Video Card** | [Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB STRIX Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GGPzK8/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070-8g-gaming) | $598.89 @ OutletPC 
**Case** | [NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ms6BD3/nzxt-case-cas340wb1) | $64.99 @ SuperBiiz 
**Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfJwrH/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr) | $113.89 @ OutletPC 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1876.35
 | Mail-in rebates | -$40.00
 | **Total** | **$1836.35**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-08-09 21:48 EDT-0400 |

[LienusLateTips]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($156.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.64 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: *Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.88 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($708.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.90 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1655.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 21:52 EDT-0400

[MoonlightSylv]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($156.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($136.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($138.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($104.64 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($70.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($799.88 @ OutletPC) 
Case: NZXT - S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1878.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-09 21:54 EDT-0400

 

Edit: Go with JDE's build, he got it cheaper.

[Batteries Included]

Choose a 1700. All Ryzen 7s are roughly the same when overclocked. An OC 1700 is basiclally an 1800X.

[Misanthrope]

You are likely to hit 3.8 or even 3.9hgz on a 1700. Maybe even 4.0 on all cores but that's 1) Not given and 2) Probably requiring more voltage that what might be comfortable (1.4 or above) The 1800x is better binned so most of the time it should reach 3.9 and 4.0 more easily (Voltage doesn't translates because the 1800x has a higher TDP by default)

 

Overall I think that the differences in performance between 3.8 and 4.0 on all cores are not that great. If you already have 3200 memory this would be maybe 5% or so better speeds. Most people decide to basically gamble on the cheaper 1700 since even if you get a not so great chip the difference is minuscule and even if you spend more on the 1800x expecting to get more you might not.