Jump to content

I am asking this because most of the budget gpus having 2gb vram like gtx 960, gtx 1050, Rx460 etc. I know that I cant run games on ultra or very high preset with this gpu but if a gtx 1050 type gpu comes with 4gb vram then atleast I can put the textures on high instead of low which still gives me better experience. If a game setting are adjusted to low or medium with high textures game still looks good for less powerful hardware. I am raising this point because textures are vram hungery rather than processer so the performance impact is very low if vram is sufficient.

 

By giving low vram with average gpus companies are infact limiting the user experience or making fun of poor gamers

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/819479-is-vram-too-costly/
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Dhruv Ghayal said:

By giving low vram with average gpus companies are infact limiting the user experience or making fun of poor gamers

can i have whatever you're smoking?

lower end cards have less vram because they are lower end cards.

 

if you're buying a budget gpu, odds are, you're not also buying a 4k monitor.

2GB of vram on a $150 gpu is completely reasonable. its for medium-high settings at 1080p. its a budget card for a budget gaming experience.

How do Reavers clean their spears?

|Specs in profile|

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/819479-is-vram-too-costly/#findComment-10271128
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

VRAM is rather cheap really, the reason they don't put tons on all cards are a) the more budget-oriented aren't powerful enough to be able to run things that need that much, and b) they want the card to become unusable in a few years so you buy a new one

 

Paradoxically, you will often find extremely low-end GPUs (GT 710, etc.) with (relatively speaking) high amounts of VRAM.  I suspect this is because anyone buying those doesn't know what they're doing and can probably be fooled into thinking that VRAM is the only number that matters, and so a 2 GB 710 is as good as a 2 GB 750 Ti

Solve your own audio issues  |  First Steps with RPi 3  |  Humidity & Condensation  |  Sleep & Hibernation  |  Overclocking RAM  |  Making Backups  |  Displays  |  4K / 8K / 16K / etc.  |  Do I need 80+ Platinum?

If you can read this you're using the wrong theme.  You can change it at the bottom.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/819479-is-vram-too-costly/#findComment-10271132
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Depends on the implementation and what Vram it is, HBM2 is not cheap.

MAD-BOX Ryzen 1600X - ASRock X370 Killer SLI - Sapphire R9 Fury NITRO+  -Fried it... RIP

Xeon e5640 4.35ghz, CoolerMaster Seidon 240V, ASUS P6X58D-E, DDR3 8GB 1636mhz CL9, Sapphire Fury Nitro OC+, 2x Stone age storage @ 7200RPM, Crucial 960GB SSD, NZXT S340, Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution, Steelseries RIVAL, Mechanical Metal keyboard, Boogie Bug Aimb mouse pad.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/819479-is-vram-too-costly/#findComment-10271136
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Paradoxically, you will often find extremely low-end GPUs (GT 710, etc.) with (relatively speaking) high amounts of VRAM.  I suspect this is because anyone buying those doesn't know what they're doing and can probably be fooled into thinking that VRAM is the only number that matters, and so a 2 GB 710 is as good as a 2 GB 750 Ti

I think the use is that businesses will use those cards for large numbers of spreadsheet monitors that just suck up vram, but don't really require much actual GPU horsepower.

Current LTT F@H Rank: 24    Score: 10,097,484,643   Stats

Yes, I have 9 monitors.

My main PC:

OS: Windows 11

CPU: Ryzen 9 9950X

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15

Mobo: Asus ProArt X670E Creator WiFi

RAM: 96GB Trident Z Neo @6400 CL32

GPU: RTX 4090 Founders Edition, Radeon Pro WX 5100

PSU: Corsair RM1000e

SSDs: Samsung 990 Pro 4TB NVME, Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB NVME, 2x Samsung 870 evo 2TB, Samsung 860 evo 1TB, Samsung 970 evo 500GB NVME

Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Black w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel Upgrade

Monitors: 9 Monitors: Alienware AW3423DWF 3440x1440@165Hz, Acer H236HLbid 1080p@77Hz, HP D7z72AA 1080p@60Hz, Dell Inspiron 24 3459 1080p@60Hz(used only as display), Dell U2724D 1440p@120Hz, ASUS VP228 1080p@60Hz, 2x HP ZR2440W 1200p@60Hz

 

unRAID server (Plex, Backups, NAS, Duplicati, game servers):

OS: unRAID 7.1.4

CPU: Ryzen R9 3900X

Cooler: Noctua NH-U9S

Mobo: Asus ROG Strix X470-F

RAM: 64GB G-Skill Ripjaws V @ 3200MHz

PSU: EVGA G3 850W

Total Storage: Raw: 94TB, Usable: 64TB

SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME, Teamgroup 4TB NVME

HDDs: 4x HGST Dekstar NAS 4TB @ 7200RPM (3 data, 1 parity) + (7x Seagate Ironwolf NAS 8TB + 2x Toshiba N300 NAS 8TB in ZFS)

Case: Fractal Define 7 XL

Other: Added 3x Noctua NF-F12 intake, 2x Noctua NF-A8 exhaust, Inatek 5 port USB 3.0 expansion card with usb 3.0 front panel header

 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/819479-is-vram-too-costly/#findComment-10271165
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

34 minutes ago, Damascus said:

A 960m with 4GB will never use the full amount, at most you'll hit 2-3gb as the chip hits the wall way earlier.

Unless you're going to play a title that does need the extra vRAM:

 

That 2 GB video memory is not really sufficient anymore is apparent when you want to play Shadow of MordorAssassin's Creed Unity or Watch Dogs, for example. Those titles run slightly better on the Kepler GTX 860M (4 GB video memory). Wolfenstein: The New Order requires at least 3 GB VRAM for the highest settings.

 

Source.

 

Now it's up to you if the extra performance is worth the premium for the extra 2Gb of vRAM but there is a difference between the performance of 2Gb and 4Gb cards with some titles.

 

Another links that shows there is a difference on the Desktop versions of the card as well: 960 2Gb vs 960 4Gb

The Potato Box:

AMD 5950X

EVGA K|NGP|N 3090

128GB 3600 CL16 RAM

 

The Scrapyard Warrior:

AMD 3950x

EVGA FTW3 2080Ti

64GB 3200 CL16 RAM

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/819479-is-vram-too-costly/#findComment-10271289
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×