P-state ryzen overclocking

[unknownmiscreant]

I have a ryzen 7 1700x + crosshair vi hero system which I am trying to overclcok using custom p-states.

 

Using fixed frequency, I can get a stable OC of 4.025GHz at 1.40v.

 

I would like to try and get the system to only boost to this frequency and voltage, when under load, to extend the life of the processor. However I cannot get the system to use the frequency specified in p state 0, and the voltage is locked to the value specified in p state 1.

 

The system also does not seem to down clock from p state 1, windows task manager shows the cpu frequency changing, however CPU-Z and AI suite 3 are both stuck at the p-state 1 frequency.

 

I am running v1403 bios. I have AI overclcok tuner on manual, with the core multiplier, core voltage and cpu soc voltage all on auto. My base clock is the default 100MHz.

[unknownmiscreant]

Update:

 

Discovered it was my power plan causing the issues around not down-clocking, but the system still only uses p-states 1 and 2.

 

The system still refuses to use p-state 0.

[Ryzen init bro]

@tom_w141 guide is the best,

he helped me set up pstates on my build 

[tom_w141]

4 hours ago, unknownmiscreant said:

Update:

 

Discovered it was my power plan causing the issues around not down-clocking, but the system still only uses p-states 1 and 2.

 

The system still refuses to use p-state 0.

 

20 minutes ago, Ryzen init bro said:

@tom_w141 guide is the best,

he helped me set up pstates on my build 

My guide above is basically written for you. With the exact same motherboard it will be easy to follow.

[unknownmiscreant]

7 hours ago, tom_w141 said:

 

My guide above is basically written for you. With the exact same motherboard it will be easy to follow.

Yeah, thanks for writing that. I found it before I started. Learned most of what I know from that. I have the system throttling voltage and frequency down when not under load, however it still refuses to use p-state 0.

Its not really an issue, as I can just set p-state 1 to my highest OC, however I would like to know why.

[tom_w141]

34 minutes ago, unknownmiscreant said:

Yeah, thanks for writing that. I found it before I started. Learned most of what I know from that. I have the system throttling voltage and frequency down when not under load, however it still refuses to use p-state 0.

Its not really an issue, as I can just set p-state 1 to my highest OC, however I would like to know why.

hmm  weird? BIOS version?

[unknownmiscreant]

31 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

hmm  weird? BIOS version?

v1403.

 

I have set the multipliers, core and soc voltages to auto. I have turned the CPU current capability to 140%, with level 5 LLC.

 

CPU soc voltage is set to 120% current capability and level 4 LLC.

 

My memory is overclocked to 3466MHz using this guide:

 

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?93722-Flare-X-3200MHZ-16GB-2x8-F4-3200C14D-16GFX-Performance-amp-Guide

 

I followed the instructions there exactly for the 3466 setup.

[tom_w141]

Just now, unknownmiscreant said:

v1403.

 

I have set the multipliers, core and soc voltages to auto. I have turned the CPU current capability to 140%, with level 5 LLC.

 

CPU soc voltage is set to 120% current capability and level 4 LLC.

 

My memory is overclocked to 3466MHz using this guide:

 

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?93722-Flare-X-3200MHZ-16GB-2x8-F4-3200C14D-16GFX-Performance-amp-Guide

 

I followed the instructions there exactly for the 3466 setup.

put a usb drive in your pc and press F12 in the bios. I wanna see some of your screens

[unknownmiscreant]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

put a usb drive in your pc and press F12 in the bios. I wanna see some of your screens

Sorry, at college at the moment. The best I can do until I get home is send you stuff from AI suite 3, as I have remote access. But I can't do anything with the BIOS till I get home.

 

What are you after?

Thanks for the help.

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, unknownmiscreant said:

Sorry, at college at the moment. The best I can do until I get home is send you stuff from AI suite 3, as I have remote access. But I can't do anything with the BIOS till I get home.

 

What are you after?

Thanks for the help.

We are in different timezones. its late at night for me so just do it later and i'll see in the morning  

 

Im just curious at seeing your settings

[unknownmiscreant]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

We are in different timezones. its late at night for me so just do it later and i'll see in the morning  

 

Im just curious at seeing your settings

Sure. I'll have them done by tomorrow morning (your time).

[Jumper118]

16 hours ago, unknownmiscreant said:

I have a ryzen 7 1700x + crosshair vi hero system which I am trying to overclcok using custom p-states.

 

Using fixed frequency, I can get a stable OC of 4.025GHz at 1.40v.

 

I would like to try and get the system to only boost to this frequency and voltage, when under load, to extend the life of the processor. However I cannot get the system to use the frequency specified in p state 0, and the voltage is locked to the value specified in p state 1.

 

The system also does not seem to down clock from p state 1, windows task manager shows the cpu frequency changing, however CPU-Z and AI suite 3 are both stuck at the p-state 1 frequency.

 

I am running v1403 bios. I have AI overclcok tuner on manual, with the core multiplier, core voltage and cpu soc voltage all on auto. My base clock is the default 100MHz.

P state oc doesn't help at all and is a waste of time. Buildzoid did a video on it. 

 

It just makes your cpu slower to respond. 

[unknownmiscreant]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

P state oc doesn't help at all and is a waste of time. Buildzoid did a video on it. 

 

It just makes your cpu slower to respond. 

True, However I didn't want the processor running at 1.41v all day, as I would like to keep it the next few years. Since I don't need 4GHz particularly often, I figured that it would be better to run it at more moderate settings most of the time.

[Jumper118]

4 minutes ago, unknownmiscreant said:

True, However I didn't want the processor running at 1.41v all day, as I would like to keep it the next few years. Since I don't need 4GHz particularly often, I figured that it would be better to run it at more moderate settings most of the time.

Doesn't matter. The voltage doesn't kill the cpu, the heat/ current do. Think of it like a static shock. It can be thousands of volts but you don't die. A lightning bolt is also thousands of voltage but the current and overall energy levels are way higher so you die :P. 

[unknownmiscreant]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

Doesn't matter. The voltage doesn't kill the cpu, the heat/ current do. Think of it like a static shock. It can be thousands of volts but you don't die. A lightning bolt is also thousands of voltage but the current and overall energy levels are way higher so you die :P. 

Oh, okay. Thanks.

[unknownmiscreant]

@tom_w141 Here you go:

 

Sorry, I had to put it in an archive due to 20MB limit.

 

 

 

 

 

I.7z

[unknownmiscreant]

 

To be deleted.

Sorry whoever this annoys.

[Dash Lambda]

On 8/8/2017 at 5:35 PM, Jumper118 said:

P-state OC doesn't help at all and is a waste of time. Buildzoid did a video on it. 

It just makes your CPU slower to respond. 

The two arguments in my mind are XFR and comfort.

 

Of course the differences are likely negligible on both points, but they still make me feel better about using Pstates over static as long as I don't see a performance hit, which I haven't yet. Yet.

 

As for the Buildzoid video, I watched it and... He didn't say much. I think what he did say is correct, it's just he only said one thing.

[unknownmiscreant]

10 minutes ago, Dash Lambda said:

The two arguments in my mind are XFR and comfort.

 

Of course the differences are likely negligible on both points, but they still make me feel better about using Pstates over static as long as I don't see a performance hit, which I haven't yet. Yet.

 

As for the Buildzoid video, I watched it and... He didn't say much. I think what he did say is correct, it's just he only said one thing.

I definitely think that there is positives and negatives to both sides. However I would like to make sure that my processor keeps running for a good few years, as I often end up using my old machines as servers, streaming or workshop machines where not as much power is required.

[Jumper118]

6 hours ago, unknownmiscreant said:

I definitely think that there is positives and negatives to both sides. However I would like to make sure that my processor keeps running for a good few years, as I often end up using my old machines as servers, streaming or workshop machines where not as much power is required.

But it's not going to last any longer that's the point I'm making 

[unknownmiscreant]

1 hour ago, Jumper118 said:

But it's not going to last any longer that's the point I'm making 

Yeah I totally get that. Just makes me feel better....

Oh, btw, @tom_w141 have you had a chance to take a peek at those screen caps?? I have re-uploaded them as JPGs, if anyone doesn't want to download the archive.

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