Pump connection help

[TheRedViper]

Hello there,

 

I am currently putting my PC together and I was wondering how to manage the connection of the pumps and the cpu cooler to the Aquaero 6. I have two d5 pumps from Aquacomputer and the cpu cooler is their Cuplex Kryos Next with visio (display that can be connected). I'm just not quite sure where each goes?

[done12many2]

You can hook the PWM wires from your pumps into any PWM header.  The PWM wires to your pumps do not deliver power.  They simply allow whatever controller that your using the ability to monitor and regulate the PUMP speed.  Both of my pumps are PWM, but I just lock them at 4800 RPMs as they are quiet enough for daily use there.

 

As far as the Vision on the waterblock, I believe that has a PWM wire as well?  The display simply need power to work, but I'm assuming that you want to tie it in with the aquaro monitoring software?

[W-L]

17 minutes ago, TheRedViper said:

Hello there,

 

I am currently putting my PC together and I was wondering how to manage the connection of the pumps and the cpu cooler to the Aquaero 6. I have two d5 pumps from Aquacomputer and the cpu cooler is their Cuplex Kryos Next with visio (display that can be connected). I'm just not quite sure where each goes?

They would be plugged into the fan connections, I would just use a splitter for the two pumps to keep them at the same RPM. Those fan header are PWM capable and can be split to power mulitple fans, 30W per channel. 

[TheRedViper]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

You can hook the PWM wires from your pumps into any PWM header.  The PWM wires to your pumps do not deliver power.  They simply allow whatever controller that your using to regulate the PUMP speed if you choose to vary they speed.  Both of my pumps are PWM, but I just lock them at 4800 RPMs as they are quiet enough for daily use there.

 

As far as the Vision on the waterblock, I believe that has a PWM wire as well?  The display simply need power to work, but I'm assuming that you want to tie it in with the aquaro monitoring software?

When you're saying PWM, you're talking about one of the 4 fan channels? Or one of the two PWM channels to the left? 

 

And I believe the vision module can be connected to the aquaero, il verify the cable again.

[W-L]

1 minute ago, TheRedViper said:

When you're saying PWM, you're talking about one of the 4 fan channels? Or one of the two PWM channels to the left? 

 

And I believe the vision module can be connected to the aquaero, il verify the cable again.

It would require them to be on the fan headers, the PWM 2 pin section won't be good for pumps or fans. 

 

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http://aquacomputer.de/tl_files/aquacomputer/downloads/manuals/aquaero_5_6_en_2016_10_14.pdf

[TheRedViper]

3 minutes ago, W-L said:

They would be plugged into the fan connections, I would just use a splitter for the two pumps to keep them at the same RPM. Those fan header are PWM capable and can be split to power mulitple fans, 30W per channel. 

Power: 23W at 12V. Im pretty sure 1 channel is 30W, but the pumps arent in a dual top, theyre both with different reservoirs. So I guess I need to put each pump into a channel and manage to put all my other fans into the 2 channels left.

 

Also, shouldn't there be a cable going from the aquaero to the mobo so that the mobo knows theres a fan?

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, TheRedViper said:

When you're saying PWM, you're talking about one of the 4 fan channels? Or one of the two PWM channels to the left? 

 

And I believe the vision module can be connected to the aquaero, il verify the cable again.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should only have two wires in the PWM wires coming off of each pump? 

 

Yes, you can plug them into the PWM fan headers or the 2pin PWM headers. 

[TheRedViper]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should only have two wires in the PWM wires coming off of each pump? 

 

Yes, you can plug them into the PWM fan headers or the 2pin PWM headers. 

Yes, the pumps have a 4 pin molex with 2 wires (a blue and green)

[W-L]

2 minutes ago, TheRedViper said:

Power: 23W at 12V. Im pretty sure 1 channel is 30W, but the pumps arent in a dual top, theyre both with different reservoirs. So I guess I need to put each pump into a channel and manage to put all my other fans into the 2 channels left.

 

Also, shouldn't there be a cable going from the aquaero to the mobo so that the mobo knows theres a fan?

The pumps won't be powered from the fan headers they are just for PWM signal, the molex from the pump is what provides it power. I would suggest to put the pump fan connections just directly onto the motherboard's CPU header, that will provide it a feedback to the system if a pump dies and have basic control if you want it to vary on load. 

 

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you should only have two wires in the PWM wires coming off of each pump? 

Yes, you can plug them into the PWM fan headers or the 2pin PWM headers. 

1 minute ago, TheRedViper said:

Yes, the pumps have a 4 pin molex with 2 wires (a blue and green)

The PWM 2 pins are for LED's apparently, not sure why they wouldn't work for the pump but they say it's only for LEDs. 

[done12many2]

6 minutes ago, W-L said:

The PWM 2 pins are for LED's apparently, not sure why they wouldn't work for the pump but they say it's only for LEDs. 

 

They are just trying to keep accidents from happening when people can't distinct from a PWM used for signal/regulation and ones used for signal and power.  Who knows? His PWMs from the pumps provide nothing but signal and will come nowhere near the 1 amp rating on those 2pin headers.  Either the PWM fan or 2pin headers will work if he wants to keep everything within one monitoring system.  Otherwise, the motherboard works just fine too.  

 

 

[TheRedViper]

9 minutes ago, W-L said:

The pumps won't be powered from the fan headers they are just for PWM signal, the molex from the pump is what provides it power. I would suggest to put the pump fan connections just directly onto the motherboard's CPU header, that will provide it a feedback to the system if a pump dies and have basic control if you want it to vary on load. 

 

The PWM 2 pins are for LED's apparently, not sure why they wouldn't work for the pump but they say it's only for LEDs. 

 

3 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

They are just trying to keep accidents from happening when people can't distinct from a PWM used for signal/regulation and ones used for signal and power.  His PWMs from the pumps provide nothing but signal and will come nowhere near the 1 amp rating on those 2pin headers.  Either the PWM fan or 2pin headers will work if he wants to keep everything within one monitoring system.  Otherwise, the motherboard works just fine too.  

 

I have two 360 rads in push/pull, a 240 one in push and a 140mm fan as a back exhaust. However, the fans are different on the rads (Theres 3xNB eloop BP12-PS on one side and 3xBe Quiet! pwm high-speed on the other). So should it go like this?

 

Gather the 6 eloops from the 360 rads into a single Splitty9 which goes into one of the four fan channel. Then gather the 6 Be quiet! from the 360 rads into another Splitty9 which goes into the second fan channel. Then use a Y-splitter to gather the two eloops from the 240 rad into the third fan channel. 

 

Then I can either send each pump to its own PWM 1/2 or use a Y-splitter and connect them to the fourth fan channel. 

 

Still wondering what to do with the vision module on the cooler though, and I guess I just send the 140mm exhaust fan to one of the mobo fan headers.

 

Isnt there a cable going from the aquaero to the mobo's CPU_FAN? From like the rpm/tacho connection to signal the mobo?

[done12many2]

14 minutes ago, TheRedViper said:

Still wondering what to do with the vision module on the cooler though, and I guess I just send the 140mm exhaust fan to one of the mobo fan headers.

 

You'll need to read the manual on the Vision in order to see if it can tie straight into your monitoring solution, which I believe it does.  I just got the PVC/nickel version without the Vision myself so I can't be of any real help.

 

14 minutes ago, TheRedViper said:

Isnt there a cable going from the aquaero to the mobo's CPU_FAN? From like the rpm/tacho connection to signal the mobo?

 

No.  The aquaero will connect to the motherboard via a USB connection.  It will not control any of the headers on your motherboard.  You'll have to configure that within the motherboard's BIOS or Windows software.

[W-L]

19 minutes ago, TheRedViper said:

I have two 360 rads in push/pull, a 240 one in push and a 140mm fan as a back exhaust. However, the fans are different on the rads (Theres 3xNB eloop BP12-PS on one side and 3xBe Quiet! pwm high-speed on the other). So should it go like this?

Gather the 6 eloops from the 360 rads into a single Splitty9 which goes into one of the four fan channel. Then gather the 6 Be quiet! from the 360 rads into another Splitty9 which goes into the second fan channel. Then use a Y-splitter to gather the two eloops from the 240 rad into the third fan channel. 

Then I can either send each pump to its own PWM 1/2 or use a Y-splitter and connect them to the fourth fan channel. 

Still wondering what to do with the vision module on the cooler though, and I guess I just send the 140mm exhaust fan to one of the mobo fan headers.

Isnt there a cable going from the aquaero to the mobo's CPU_FAN? From like the rpm/tacho connection to signal the mobo?

I would separate them by group, one set for each rad with the same fans. That way you have more control of the speed of the different fans. 

[done12many2]

Just now, W-L said:

I would separate them by group, one set for each rad with the same fans. That way you have more control of the speed of the different fans. 

 

I get too confused when I try to through everything on one controller.  

[TheRedViper]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

You'll need to read the manual on the Vision in order to see if it can tie straight into your monitoring solution, which I believe it does.  I just got the PVC/nickel version without the Vision myself so I can't be of any real help.

 

 

No.  The aquaero will connect to the motherboard via a USB connection.  It will not control any of the headers on your motherboard.  You'll have to configure that within the motherboard's BIOS or Windows software.

The cooler manual doesnt even mentions the visio module, it says to refer to the website, eh guess il have to dig.

 

 

What I meant was sending a 3 pin to 4 pin cable from the aquaero RPM connection to the CPU_FAN on the mobo and configure within aquaero that if the signal from the pumps fall, then to send a 0 rpm signal through that cable and setup a shutdown within the mobo BIOS for when CPU_FAN gets to 0 rpm, to shutdown the pc.

[TheRedViper]

1 minute ago, W-L said:

I would separate them by group, one set for each rad with the same fans. That way you have more control of the speed of the different fans. 

The fans are different for both aesthetic reasons (black/white theme) and utility (NB-eloops arent meant for pull, as confirmed by the company, and I dont have enough space on my mercury s8 sidemount to start their spacer shenanigans.