raid help

[CatXice]

so am getting a lian li dk q2x desk case (hope u know what i mean) and well i want to make sure it looks nice and i need a storage upgrade i have a 500gb hdd atm and i was thinking of buying 4 250gb 850 evo's putting them in raid and being off to the races if u will. but i have questions as i have never done raid before.

 

first i dont need max performance this pc is only used for gaming so i just want the drives to run as if they was just a single 1tb ssd so what raid config should i go with.

 

second with the above raid config is there a limit on how many drives can be used in a raid for the config i would use if so i would just have two raids or 1 raid and a single drive for OS for example. 

[Matt_98]

3 minutes ago, CatXice said:

so am getting a lian li dk q2x desk case (hope u know what i mean) and well i want to make sure it looks nice and i need a storage upgrade i have a 500gb hdd atm and i was thinking of buying 4 250gb 850 evo's putting them in raid and being off to the races if u will. but i have questions as i have never done raid before.

 

first i dont need max performance this pc is only used for gaming so i just want the drives to run as if they was just a single 1tb ssd so what raid config should i go with.

 

second with the above raid config is there a limit on how many drives can be used in a raid for the config i would use if so i would just have two raids or 1 raid and a single drive for OS for example. 

with 4 ssd's DO NOT USE RAID 0, you will lose all your data if there us an issue with any of the drives. you cauld use raid 5 for a 750GB array with 1 drive redundancy but if your just gaming get a single 1tb ssd

[myspeakersaremuffled]

I'd recommend you scratch that idea and get a 2tb firecuda for 90 bucks on amazon. 

[CatXice]

Just now, Matt_98 said:

with 4 ssd's DO NOT USE RAID 0, you will lose all your data if there us an issue with any of the drives. you cauld use raid 5 for a 750GB array with 1 drive redundancy but if your just gaming get a single 1tb ssd

with the lian li desk case i wanted to get get 4 drives purely for looks to make the case look full. so what your saying is use raid 5 on 3 drives and the other drive with say my OS and pictures on so if the raid dies am all good

 

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

with the lian li desk case i wanted to get get 4 drives purely for looks to make the case look full. so what your saying is use raid 5 on 3 drives and the other drive with say my OS and pictures on so if the raid dies am all good

 

no use all 4 drives in raid 5

[CatXice]

Just now, Matt_98 said:

no use all 4 drives in raid 5

ok

 

[CatXice]

1 minute ago, myspeakersaremuffled said:

I'd recommend you scratch that idea and get a 2tb firecuda for 90 bucks on amazon. 

y would i want to do that can i ask

 

 

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

with the lian li desk case i wanted to get get 4 drives purely for looks to make the case look full. so what your saying is use raid 5 on 3 drives and the other drive with say my OS and pictures on so if the raid dies am all good

 

or just 2 ssd's and a pair of hard drives for mass storage

[AnonymousGuy]

Does your motherboard support JBOD in the raid options?  If not, you have to run raid 0.

 

I would advise you to run a single 1TB SSD than 4 smaller drives.  You're 4x-ing your chance of failure.

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

y would i want to do that can i ask

 

 

so that if a drive fails in the raid you don't lose any data

[CatXice]

Just now, Matt_98 said:

or just 2 ssd's and a pair of hard drives for mass storage

i dont need massive storage and the case can hold like 8 drives so u know 

[myspeakersaremuffled]

Just now, CatXice said:

y would i want to do that can i ask

 

 

Because its a really good drive and will be fine for regular gaming, I have that one my self. It's a hybrid of an HDD and an SSD and is pretty fast actually. 5* as fast as other 7200rpm drives.

[CatXice]

Just now, AnonymousGuy said:

Does your motherboard support JBOD in the raid options?  If not, you have to run raid 0.

 

I would advise you to run a single 1TB SSD than 4 smaller drives.  You're 4x-ing your chance of failure.

i know so is there a way i can have a failure and not end up fucked

 

[AnonymousGuy]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

i know so is there a way i can have a failure and not end up fucked

 

JBOD basically glues the drives together and treats them as one large one.  Just a Bunch Of Disks.  If one drive fails you only lose the data on that drive not the entire thing (as you do with raid 0).

 

Raid also can fuck you over when it comes to managing your partitions.  Sooooo many boot CDs don't properly support Intel raid arrays and see the drives individually.  It's one of the reasons I'm consolidating my 4 SSDs down to 1.

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

i dont need massive storage and the case can hold like 8 drives so u know 

then raid 5 4 drives or just spray paint old laptop hdd's to fill the blank spaces

 

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

i know so is there a way i can have a failure and not end up fucked

 

with raid 5 yes, with raid 0 no

[CatXice]

Just now, AnonymousGuy said:

JBOD basically glues the drives together and treats them as one large one.  Just a Bunch Of Disks.

 

Raid also can fuck you over when it comes to managing your partitions.  Sooooo many boot CDs don't properly support Intel raid arrays and see the drives individually.

 

2 minutes ago, myspeakersaremuffled said:

Because its a really good drive and will be fine for regular gaming, I have that one my self. It's a hybrid of an HDD and an SSD and is pretty fast actually. 5* as fast as other 7200rpm drives.

 

2 minutes ago, Matt_98 said:

so that if a drive fails in the raid you don't lose any data

 

 

u lot know way more about this then i do but the case have 4 drive bays that i want to full 3.5 or 2.5" drives and i want them all to be the same drive as they will be on full display i just wanted to know if i could set up my drives so there all 1 drive but if anything shits the bed my data will be fine?

[AnonymousGuy]

Just now, CatXice said:

 

 

 

 

u lot know way more about this then i do but the case have 4 drive bays that i want to full 3.5 or 2.5" drives and i want them all to be the same drive as they will be on full display i just wanted to know if i could set up my drives so there all 1 drive but if anything shits the bed my data will be fine?

raid 5 or raid 1. 

 

or as said above just mock up some fake SSDs to fill the case and only run 1

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

 

 

 

 

u lot know way more about this then i do but the case have 4 drive bays that i want to full 3.5 or 2.5" drives and i want them all to be the same drive as they will be on full display i just wanted to know if i could set up my drives so there all 1 drive but if anything shits the bed my data will be fine?

with 4 hd bays i would maybe go for 4 1tb hdd's in raid 5 then and have an m.2 boot drive

[myspeakersaremuffled]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

 

 

 

 

u lot know way more about this then i do but the case have 4 drive bays that i want to full 3.5 or 2.5" drives and i want them all to be the same drive as they will be on full display i just wanted to know if i could set up my drives so there all 1 drive but if anything shits the bed my data will be fine?

raid 5

[CatXice]

3 minutes ago, Matt_98 said:

then raid 5 4 drives or just spray paint old laptop hdd's to fill the blank spaces

 

with raid 5 yes, with raid 0 no

on that point buy a 1tb 850 evo and get samsung to sell me a bunch of ssd cases

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

on that point buy a 1tb 850 evo and get samsung to sell me a bunch of ssd cases

or make them yourself

[CatXice]

Just now, Matt_98 said:

with 4 hd bays i would maybe go for 4 1tb hdd's in raid 5 then and have an m.2 boot drive

good point 

[CatXice]

Just now, Matt_98 said:

or make them yourself

that sounds like effort

 

[Matt_98]

Just now, CatXice said:

good point 

the new segate drives look pretty cool

[Matt_98]

1 minute ago, CatXice said:

that sounds like effort

 

haha just get some old laptop hdd's and spray them silver, or whatever colour the ssd is