Ryzen 5 First build Help

[AverageAfro]

Gaming and light use of Da Vinci Resolve, Avid Media Composer, Nuke, and After Effects for the next year. Then the year after heavy use for the above programs and light gaming (On my placement year!)

I have a 1440p monitor, so I'm guessing the 1080 will kill that at at least 60fps High? (Only recently has PC become my main gaming machine, so i'll be getting some future AAA games like Destiny 2, ATM I mostly play Minecraft!, my most intensive game is Ashes of the Singularity and probably Metro Last Light, neither of which I've played yet)

 

Here is the PC Part Picker link, and an Imgur Album with my current basket!
 

 

So I'm going for a black and purple build, Mostly everythin black then purple lighting. I wanted to get the cable extensions as purple, but I thought it'd look silly with them just as purple with no other no light purple source.

I'm also tempted to get the be quiet dark rock pro 3, as it'll save me getting the extra Noctua fan to replace the tan ones on the NH-D15.

I've gone with 2 Silent Wings to put in the front of the case, and I'll move the included 12 front one to the back.

The saved for later LED strip is just incase the include Phantex one doesn't give me the shade of purple I'd like. 

Edit, I want to add that I already have all the storage from my previous comp! A couple SSDs and a couple HDDs

 

[arnavvr]

This would be a much better build for your uses:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£282.00 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler  (£74.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£111.26 @ BT Shop) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£134.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£132.60 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card  (£355.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  (£91.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£85.47 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1268.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 18:08 BST+0100

[Zando_]

Nice looking build! But make sure and get an SSD for a boot drive. 

[Thavion Hawk]

That build will monster anything up to light 4K. You will see gains with a modest OC on the CPU and that motherboard despite being a B platform is able to do OC'ing but note that they don't have the option for voltage offset. For 1440p at 60 you should have no problems. I would recommend as anyone would likely do get a good SSD for your OS and critical games/data. \

[Cyracus]

don't follow the suggestion of getting a worse gpu to get a better cpu, but either get a 1600 or a 1700, they're identical to their x counterparts, the x ones just have a factory OC, and overclocking isn't all that difficult unless you're looking to squeeze out every bit of performance possible

[AverageAfro]

3 minutes ago, arnavvr said:

This would be a much better build for your uses:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£282.00 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 140.2 CFM CPU Cooler  (£74.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£111.26 @ BT Shop) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£134.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£132.60 @ Alza) 
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB JetStream Video Card  (£355.77 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case  (£91.55 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£85.47 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1268.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-07 18:08 BST+0100

The palit doesn't have RGB options, and the 1070 strix which does is only £90 cheaper for a 27% increase in performance and a longer life span on games in the future. 

2 minutes ago, Thavion Hawk said:

That build will monster anything up to light 4K. You will see gains with a modest OC on the CPU and that motherboard despite being a B platform is able to do OC'ing but note that they don't have the option for voltage offset. For 1440p at 60 you should have no problems. I would recommend as anyone would likely do get a good SSD for your OS and critical games/data. \

What does that voltage offset mean for OC'ing? 

Just now, Cyracus said:

don't follow the suggestion of getting a worse gpu to get a better cpu, but either get a 1600 or a 1700, they're identical to their x counterparts, the x ones just have a factory OC, and overclocking isn't all that difficult unless you're looking to squeeze out every bit of performance possible

I feel like I'm playing the lottery though with getting a 1600 that will overclock to what is almost guarented with the X version. I might be ill informed though...

[Cyracus]

2 minutes ago, AverageAfro said:

I feel like I'm playing the lottery though with getting a 1600 that will overclock to what is almost guarented with the X version. I might be ill informed though...

you'd have to get the worst lottery loser to not be able to at least meet the 1600x from a 1600, you should be able to get at least 3.8 on either one though

[AverageAfro]

9 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

you'd have to get the worst lottery loser to not be able to at least meet the 1600x from a 1600, you should be able to get at least 3.8 on either one though

Thing is I'd like to hit 4ghz at minimum hit 3.9 on an oc!

[TheDankKoosh]

14 minutes ago, AverageAfro said:

Thing is I'd like to hit 4ghz at minimum hit 3.9 on an oc!

Then a 1700x would be in order, and possibly a better motherboard (like a cheaper x370 board). Something like the asus prime may do nicely.

[AverageAfro]

5 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

Then a 1700x would be in order, and possibly a better motherboard (like a cheaper x370 board). Something like the asus prime may do nicely.

Unfortunately the 1700x is just out of my price range. I can however get the 1700, and OC that

[TheDankKoosh]

Just now, AverageAfro said:

Unfortunately the 1700x is just out of my price range. I can however get the 1700, and OC that

I was only suggesting the 1700x if you REALLY wanted to guarantee that 3.9-4.0ghz, the top 72% of 1700's will reach 3.9 but you may lose the lottery. 

[Thavion Hawk]

45 minutes ago, AverageAfro said:

The palit doesn't have RGB options, and the 1070 strix which does is only £90 cheaper for a 27% increase in performance and a longer life span on games in the future. 

What does that voltage offset mean for OC'ing? 

I feel like I'm playing the lottery though with getting a 1600 that will overclock to what is almost guarented with the X version. I might be ill informed though...

If you're going to OC the CPU using a Voltage Off-set lets the Motherboard dial back the clock and voltage as normal when the system is at idle/light load. If you don't have a Voltage Off-Set option you're locking the Voltage of the CPU at what ever you set it 100% of the time. In other words if you OC without it, you will shorten the life of the CPU. If you cool it well enough it may not matter, but it's something you should take into account.

[AverageAfro]

9 minutes ago, Thavion Hawk said:

If you're going to OC the CPU using a Voltage Off-set lets the Motherboard dial back the clock and voltage as normal when the system is at idle/light load. If you don't have a Voltage Off-Set option you're locking the Voltage of the CPU at what ever you set it 100% of the time. In other words if you OC without it, you will shorten the life of the CPU. If you cool it well enough it may not matter, but it's something you should take into account.

 

Dang it... The B350 Strix was perfect as well... So this means I should either fork out the extra 60 quid for the x version, or try and find an rgb mobo that's somewhat black on the X270(???) platform

Edit: Just looked at the base difference between the 1700 and X, 6% increase doesn't seem worth. New Mobo I guess...

[Thavion Hawk]

3 minutes ago, AverageAfro said:

 

Dang it... The B350 Strix was perfect as well... So this means I should either fork out the extra 60 quid for the x version, or try and find an rgb mobo that's somewhat black on the X270(???) platform

If you're not going to push a overclock past 100Mhz or so then you shouldn't even need to up the voltage. And again if you cool the CPU well enough it's not that big of a deal. It's just good to know the value of an Off-Set. I haven't used the B350-Strix only the B350 Prime so I don't know for sure if it has better support of Overclocking.

[AverageAfro]

12 minutes ago, Thavion Hawk said:

If you're not going to push a overclock past 100Mhz or so then you shouldn't even need to up the voltage. And again if you cool the CPU well enough it's not that big of a deal. It's just good to know the value of an Off-Set. I haven't used the B350-Strix only the B350 Prime so I don't know for sure if it has better support of Overclocking.

Thank you! I think i'll be going with the 1700 and the same Mobo

[Cyracus]

3 hours ago, AverageAfro said:

Thing is I'd like to hit 4ghz at minimum hit 3.9 on an oc!

the x chips don't give higher max OCs despite AMDs suggestion that they would, at least everything I've seen shows no difference in max OCs obtainable. but good choice on the 1700

[AverageAfro]

I hope this topic hasn't gone too far down, but I'm not entirely happy with the case choice, does anyone have any suggestions?